Kanluwen wrote:

Also, didn't one of Trump's guys just admit on Twitter that he was in contact with Wikileaks back in October...and then try to delete the tweet?

 Kanluwen wrote:

Also, didn't one of Trump's guys just admit on Twitter that he was in contact with Wikileaks back in October...and then try to delete the tweet?

 BigWaaagh wrote:

If I...or any of you, hell, anybody/anywhere...had an uncle, or grandparent, or friend that behaved like Trump, you'd do everything in your power to get that person to seek professional help.

 BigWaaagh wrote:
It still boggles my mind that this is how these fething morons shape their opinions and get their news. It just explains so much.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/an-unfounded-claim%e2%80%99s-journey-from-talk-radio-to-trump%e2%80%99s-twitter/ar-AAnQaz9?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=ASUDHP

If I...or any of you, hell, anybody/anywhere...had an uncle, or grandparent, or friend that behaved like Trump, you'd do everything in your power to get that person to seek professional help.

Sen. Chris [see forum posting rules], Delaware Democrat, on Sunday walked back his bombshell declaration about transcripts showing Russia-Trump collusion, saying he had no proof such documents exist and apologizing for any “hyperventilating.”

“I have no hard evidence of collusion,” Mr. [see forum posting rules] told “Fox News Sunday.”

He said he was sorry for any misinterpretation of his comments, which blew up on social media after a Friday interview on MSNBC.

“So to the extent of those comments, they might be in some way misinterpreted as leading to sort of a hyperventilating attitude here in the Senate about this, I apologize for that,” Mr. [see forum posting rules] said. “That’s not what I was trying to do.”

At the same time, he said, “I am confident that intelligence exists that is relevant to this question. Not that says there is collusion, and proof of it, that’s not what I was trying to say.”
His comments Friday went viral after an MSNBC producer for host Andrea Mitchell tweeted, “Sen. [see forum posting rules] tells @mitchellreports that the FBI has transcripts that may show Russian leaders colluding with the Trump campaign.”

“There are transcripts that provide very helpful, very critical insights into whether or not Russian intelligence and senior Russian political leaders, including Vladimir Putin, were cooperating with, colluding with the Trump campaign at the highest levels to influence the outcome of our election,” Mr. [see forum posting rules] told MSNBC.

Of the transcripts, he said, “I have not seen them. I believe they exist.”

The episode had Republicans and others comparing Mr. [see forum posting rules]‘ statement to Sen. Joseph McCarthy’s famous 1950 assertion that he had a list of at least 200 “known Communists” working in the State Department.

Fox’s Chris Wallace asked Mr. [see forum posting rules] whether there was a “whiff of McCarthyism for you as a U.S. senator to say there are transcripts out there that provide insight into whether or not there was collusion, but you don’t even know whether they exist?”

“Well, to be clear, Chris, what I was trying to encourage was that the [Senate] intelligence committee be given access to the raw intelligence,” Mr. [see forum posting rules] said. “I’ve been told now that that’s going to happen this coming week and I think that’s positive and productive.”

Mr. [see forum posting rules]‘ Friday interview followed a theme set by other Democrats: that FBI Director James Comey, in closed-door briefings, may not have been forthcoming in disclosing all he knows about possible Trump-Russia contacts.

The New York Times reported last month that the FBI has evidence of “repeated contacts” between Trump campaign staff and Russian intelligence. In other words: evidence of collision.
White House Chief of Staff Reince Priebus has said that the FBI deputy director told him the New York Times story was “BS.”

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said such contacts never happened and has called the Times stories “false.”

House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, California Republican, has said at two press conferences that he has seen no evidence of Trump-Russia contacts or collusion during the campaign.

Both the Senate and House Intelligence committees are investigating Russia’s interference in the 2016 election via propaganda and by hacking into the Democratic Party emails. A key question is whether the Trump campaign conspired with Russian intelligence, which directed the cyberattacks.

 LordofHats wrote:

 Breotan wrote:

And yet every auto manufacturer still make and sell significant numbers of SUVs, Trucks, and sports cars.

You continue to assume that whenever people mention fuel economy they're talking about SUVs and Trucks and such. Ignore that even accounting for the robuts truck and SUV market, US vehicles are usually less efficient and more expensive than their competition and have next to no market outside the United States where they're appeal mostly stems from being US made (on the tin anyway). We're talking about fuel economy, which is a factor in all vehicles. GM is still trying to incorporate full body sedans as something other than a niche market, having learned nothing from the recession crash that stemmed from poor investment decisions in what kind of vehicles to develop and push. About the only US firm that has kept up on this front is Ford (aka the only US maker who didn't need a bailout to survive), and they also happen to be the only US maker with substantial overseas markets outside industrial/business service vehicles.

GM is literally surviving on Ram, Cherokee, and various vans and tractor trucks. Another major market crash and they'll need to be bailed out again because they learned nothing.

Trump's revised travel ban excludes Iraqis - nytimes.com
WASHINGTON — President Trump on Monday signed a revised version of his executive order banning migrants from predominantly Muslim nations, removing citizens from Iraq from the original travel embargo and scrapping a provision that explicitly protected religious minorities.
The order, which comes about a month after federal judges blocked Mr. Trump's haphazardly implemented January ban on residents from seven Middle Eastern and African countries, won't affect people who had previously been issued visas.
It will be phased in over the next two weeks to avoid the chaotic, same-day start of the Jan. 27 order, according to Department of Homeland Security officials.
The indefinite ban on refugees from Syria also has been reduced to a 120-day ban, requiring review and renewal, the officials said.
[...]
He signed the order in private. Administration officials offered no explanation for his decision to opt for a lower-key rollout.
Citizens of Iran, Somalia, Sudan, Yemen, Syria and Libya will face a 90-day suspension of visa processing as the administration continues to analyze how to enhance vetting procedures, according to a Homeland Security summary of the order.
[...]
In a conference call with reporters on Monday morning, officials with Homeland Security, the Department of State and Department of Justice defended Mr. Trump's original order and said the rewrite was intended to address legal concerns quickly to deal with what they repeatedly characterized as an urgent national security threat.
In a break with standard practice, participants in the call did not give their names to reporters even though, as a condition of joining the briefing, journalists had agreed to identify them only as unnamed officials.
[...]
An official, speaking on the call, said that the Justice Department had identified 300 "refugees" who were being investigated for their links to radical Islamic terrorist groups or pro-ISIS positions. Some of those people already have permanent resident status, according to the official.
But Homeland Security and Justice Department officials refused to provide any further details, and wouldn't say how many of the 300 investigation targets came from any of the countries covered by the revised travel ban.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
So apparently Trump wants a 12 carrier navy. Despite the fact that our current carrier groups are more than sufficient, especially when they are all eventually replaced with the Gerald R. Ford class carriers (which is planned, IIRC). But I guess those $20B for two more carriers can can come out of the cut PBS budget.
"Economic Conservatism"

Or maybe just have the Trump family have to reimburse the government for their security cost, that should net us I couple billion easy with the way things are going.






What is it with the Republicans looking at the military and going "MORE!" when what we have is more than sufficient? Is it a compensation thing or what?

 Verviedi wrote:
OH for feth's sake...
https://nytimes.com/2017/03/06/us/politics/travel-ban-muslim-trump.html

Russian Hackers Said to Seek Hush Money From Liberal U.S. Groups

Russian hackers are targeting U.S. progressive groups in a new wave of attacks, scouring the organizations’ emails for embarrassing details and attempting to extract hush money, according to two people familiar with probes being conducted by the FBI and private security firms.

 Breotan wrote:
So, setting aside unsubstantiated accusation of Russian hacking, let's discuss some actual Russian hacking.

Apparently the WikiLeaks email dump wasn't the end of headaches for left wing groups. According to Bloomberg, libera groups are still being targeted for blackmail by Russian hackers.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-hackers-said-to-seek-hush-money-from-liberal-us-groups/ar-AAnSbAZ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Russian Hackers Said to Seek Hush Money From Liberal U.S. Groups

Russian hackers are targeting U.S. progressive groups in a new wave of attacks, scouring the organizations’ emails for embarrassing details and attempting to extract hush money, according to two people familiar with probes being conducted by the FBI and private security firms.

There's more to the article but the question I have is why haven't we heard about right wing groups being targeted? Is this a case of the left just being really really bad at protecting their passwords? If right wing groups have been hacked, what are the Russians doing with whatever it is they got? It's the one-sidedness of this that has me perplexed.

 Breotan wrote:
So, setting aside unsubstantiated accusation of Russian hacking, let's discuss some actual Russian hacking.

Apparently the WikiLeaks email dump wasn't the end of headaches for left wing groups. According to Bloomberg, libera groups are still being targeted for blackmail by Russian hackers.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/russian-hackers-said-to-seek-hush-money-from-liberal-us-groups/ar-AAnSbAZ?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

Russian Hackers Said to Seek Hush Money From Liberal U.S. Groups

Russian hackers are targeting U.S. progressive groups in a new wave of attacks, scouring the organizations’ emails for embarrassing details and attempting to extract hush money, according to two people familiar with probes being conducted by the FBI and private security firms.

There's more to the article but the question I have is why haven't we heard about right wing groups being targeted? Is this a case of the left just being really really bad at protecting their passwords? If right wing groups have been hacked, what are the Russians doing with whatever it is they got? It's the one-sidedness of this that has me perplexed.

 infinite_array wrote:
If this is true - American conservatives have largely fallen in behind Trump and his Russophilia, so there's no point in going after them. If they're being hacked, then the information can come out later if the right eventually tries to dump Trump.

 Kilkrazy wrote:


You don't really think all right-wing US groups are squeaky clean or have AAA Ace security. Pence doing state business on AOL is a clear example.

 Breotan wrote:

 infinite_array wrote:
If this is true - American conservatives have largely fallen in behind Trump and his Russophilia, so there's no point in going after them. If they're being hacked, then the information can come out later if the right eventually tries to dump Trump.

Russia has no love for American right wing groups and not every Russian hacker works for the Russian government. In fact, given that most right wingers are anti-Russian, Reagan lovers you'd think they'd be hit even harder than the left.

Spoiler:

 Breotan wrote:

 infinite_array wrote:
If this is true - American conservatives have largely fallen in behind Trump and his Russophilia, so there's no point in going after them. If they're being hacked, then the information can come out later if the right eventually tries to dump Trump.

Russia has no love for American right wing groups and not every Russian hacker works for the Russian government. In fact, given that most right wingers are anti-Russian, Reagan lovers you'd think they'd be hit even harder than the left.

 Ahtman wrote:
Some exciting bills the House has going on:

H.R. 861: To terminate the Environmental Protection Agency

H.R. 610: Tax dollars for private schools

H.R. 899: To terminate the Department of Education

H.J.R. 69: To repeal a rule protecting wildlife (allow hunting in Alaskan National Wildlife Refuge)

H.R. 370: To repeal the Affordable Care Act

H.R. 354: To defund Planned Parenthood

H.R. 785: National Right-to-Work legislation

H.R. 83: Mobilizing Against Sanctuary Cities Act

H.R. 147: To criminalize abortion (it want to prosecute pregnant women)

 CptJake wrote:

 Kilkrazy wrote:


You don't really think all right-wing US groups are squeaky clean or have AAA Ace security. Pence doing state business on AOL is a clear example.

And a clear example right wing targets DO get hacked.