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 sebster wrote:
 whembly wrote:
Ya, d-usa corrected me on that one seb.


What about all the rest? Gonna start talking about the Iran hostage negotiations by Reagan as the US paying pallet loads of cash?

Or are you gonna admit that the way this was sold to you by conservative press was a great big con?

What you want your pound 'ol whem flesh?

Fine...

I still would advocate that we shouldn't have paid Iran and if the Hague ruled in their favor? I'd tell them to come and take it.

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I see that Whembly has taken a course in International Diplomacy from Trump University.


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 whembly wrote:
I'd tell them to come and take it.


And that attitude is exactly why we tariff the feth out of you.

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 sebster wrote:
Or are you gonna admit that the way this was sold to you by conservative press was a great big con?
Has he ever? It's well known that his standard operating procedure is to just ignore being proven wrong and claim he's being ganged up on because people hold him accountable for the things he posts in these threads.

You know, like this:
 whembly wrote:
What you want your pound 'ol whem flesh?

 d-usa wrote:
"When the Internet sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending posters that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing strawmen. They're bringing spam. They're trolls. And some, I assume, are good people."
 
   
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 whembly wrote:
I still would advocate that we shouldn't have paid Iran and if the Hague ruled in their favor? I'd tell them to come and take it.

In other word, acted like the bully.

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Meanwhile, antifada radicals (aka wannabe communists) and trumpsters riot for my amusement. I will have to check out the youtube videos when I get home and cane make some popcorn.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-berkeley-trump-rally-20170415-story.html

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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Wannabe Communits and wannabe Facists huh? Well at least they're going after eachother and not everything else.

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 sebster wrote:
Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens
 BaronIveagh wrote:
Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace.
 
   
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Just heard about this latest riot at Berkeley and I find this particular incident quite funny. The lady in question was doxxed and identified, and she allegedly posted this to her Facebook profile prior to the protests. [spoilered for large image]
Spoiler:

I'm sure theres a moral here somewhere...if you punch Nazis... they'll eventually punch back? We had this conversation a few months back, when far left loons in this thread that will go unnamed were advocating violence.




   
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Violence just gets you sued and arrested. Never worth it.

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She went looking for a fight...and she lost that fight. Be careful what you wish for.

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 kronk wrote:
Violence just gets you sued and arrested. Never worth it.


WO WO WO!!!

Thats not the attitude to have Kronk.

Just think, now we have lots of excellent youtube video we can watch for our amusement.

"When commies and neo nazis fight, whoever loses, we win!"
-Franky "The Prez" Roosevelt.

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-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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The standard for what is considered to be a Nazi seems absurdly low these days...
   
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Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

 ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
 sebster wrote:
Or are you gonna admit that the way this was sold to you by conservative press was a great big con?
Has he ever? It's well known that his standard operating procedure is to just ignore being proven wrong and claim he's being ganged up on because people hold him accountable for the things he posts in these threads.

You know, like this:
 whembly wrote:
What you want your pound 'ol whem flesh?

Uh... I already stated that d-usa corrected me.

You can now get off your high horse.


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 Kovnik Obama wrote:
 whembly wrote:
I'd tell them to come and take it.


And that attitude is exactly why we tariff the feth out of you.

...okay.




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 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
 whembly wrote:
I still would advocate that we shouldn't have paid Iran and if the Hague ruled in their favor? I'd tell them to come and take it.

In other word, acted like the bully.

The Iranian government doesn't deserve recompense. I'd tell them that we'd escrow it, with interest, and only release it on a regime change.

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The standard for what is considered to be a Nazi seems absurdly low these days...
Hrm, have you looked at anything regarding the dude in questiom here...?

The dude is a convicted felon who robbed a cab driver because he looked Iraqi, advocates for a "white" secessionist homeland, etc, and came out and publicly stated that he believes Trump was the candidate who' "policies would make America whiter", and more.

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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
Just heard about this latest riot at Berkeley and I find this particular incident quite funny. The lady in question was doxxed and identified, and she allegedly posted this to her Facebook profile prior to the protests. [spoilered for large image]
Spoiler:

I'm sure theres a moral here somewhere...if you punch Nazis... they'll eventually punch back? We had this conversation a few months back, when far left loons in this thread that will go unnamed were advocating violence.






Wait, so, I'm confused. It's not funny when Nazis get punched, but it is funny when the people who punch Nazis get punched? I just want to know which incident means the death of free speech.
   
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 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The standard for what is considered to be a Nazi seems absurdly low these days...


Sounds like something a Nazi would say!

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 Spinner wrote:
Wait, so, I'm confused. It's not funny when Nazis get punched, but it is funny when the people who punch Nazis get punched? I just want to know which incident means the death of free speech.


It's funny when people go looking to hurt other human beings and get rocked in the mouth. If you watch the video, you can actually see the moment where she realizes that she made a terrible mistake.

Did these AntiFa losers just think that showing up to right-wing groups and attacking people wouldn't blow back on them?

There's a reason I loathe far-lefties more than the far-righties. And it's very simple.

The left lost an election, and they went completely bonkers and got violent.

The right let the left attack people for months, finally got fed up with it, and THEN fought back. Mind you, the overwhelming majority of Americans firearms are right-wing. And yeah, I saw AntiFa's little airsoft team, that doesn't count.

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So...advocating ethnic cleansing doesn't count as an 'attack'.

Gotcha.
   
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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
Wait, so, I'm confused. It's not funny when Nazis get punched, but it is funny when the people who punch Nazis get punched? I just want to know which incident means the death of free speech.


It's funny when people go looking to hurt other human beings and get rocked in the mouth. If you watch the video, you can actually see the moment where she realizes that she made a terrible mistake.

Did these AntiFa losers just think that showing up to right-wing groups and attacking people wouldn't blow back on them?

There's a reason I loathe far-lefties more than the far-righties. And it's very simple.

The left lost an election, and they went completely bonkers and got violent.
Lets not forget we had right wing groups mount an armed occupation of a federal facility and got in a standoff and car chase with federal agencies just over a year ago...

Like...people forget that constantly for whatever reason...but apparently shorsighted college students are so much worse...

And lets realize that the overwhelmingly vast majority of this stuff thats happening is in tiny highly charged political microcosms like Berkely, where people are showing up there specifically to generate drama and then its being extrapolated to apply to a vastly larger group of people than it has any right to be.


Lets also realize that people like Richard Spencer and Nathan Damigo openly espouse ideologies that directly lead to the deaths of millions, held a conference at the Ronald Reagan international trade center and gave Hitler salutes while shouting "Hail Trump" and the like, and that's likely to generate some...intense feelings.

Also, again, Damigo, the dude throwing the punch in this case, is a convicted felon who robbed a cab driver at gun point because of his ethnicity.

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How is that Domingo dude not in prison now... that's definitely assault.

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 Spinner wrote:
So...advocating ethnic cleansing doesn't count as an 'attack'.

Gotcha.

It doesn't.

It's no more an attack than when people on a wargaming message board are flippantly musing about attacking and killing people for violating various principles held sacred by them.

If it's connected to some form of actual action (or risk therof) then there may be a case. Such as if someone encourage ethnic cleansing, targeting a specific audience, target, date etc, Or there are some sort of physical preparation being carried out.

There's legal doctrine covering how far preparation and encouraging of a actual crime needs to advance before it's something that can be punished. And in general it seems like a reasonable line has been drawn in most jurisdictions as far as I know.

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So one fascist punched another fascist?

 
   
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 Zywus wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
So...advocating ethnic cleansing doesn't count as an 'attack'.

Gotcha.

It doesn't.

It's no more an attack than when people on a wargaming message board are flippantly musing about attacking and killing people for violating various principles held sacred by them.

If it's connected to some form of actual action (or risk therof) then there may be a case. Such as if someone encourage ethnic cleansing, targeting a specific audience, target, date etc, Or there are some sort of physical preparation being carried out.

There's legal doctrine covering how far preparation and encouraging of a actual crime needs to advance before it's something that can be punished. And in general it seems like a reasonable line has been drawn in most jurisdictions as far as I know.


I think it goes a little further when someone muses about 'is black genocide really wrong' or talks about how everything would be great if the country only had white people than some person in News and Rumors grumbling about making Matt Ward The Most Dangerous Game every time there's a new over-the-top bit of Spehss Mehrene fluff. Nobody's seriously expecting anyone to show up outside an ex-GW writer's house with bear traps and hunting rifles, and no one's ever tried to do it in the past. They're not attempting to start a political movement based around giving Dark Eldar an update.
   
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 Vaktathi wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The standard for what is considered to be a Nazi seems absurdly low these days...
Hrm, have you looked at anything regarding the dude in questiom here...?

The dude is a convicted felon who robbed a cab driver because he looked Iraqi, advocates for a "white" secessionist homeland, etc, and came out and publicly stated that he believes Trump was the candidate who' "policies would make America whiter", and more.


I started to say thats more indicative of a racist vs. a Nazi and then realized you said Nazi and not Fascist.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 whembly wrote:
What you want your pound 'ol whem flesh?


I want US political discussion to return to reality based foundations. It's nothing personal.

Fine...

I still would advocate that we shouldn't have paid Iran and if the Hague ruled in their favor? I'd tell them to come and take it.


Heh, that's a very Trump-like effort to sidestep the issue. To avoid having to attempt an answer on the conservative myth of Obama making payments as part of the Iran deal, you swap over to the more incendiary claim of just ignoring international law. It almost worked, to be honest. I was halfway through a short essay on how bad rejecting international law would be for the US, when I realised 'wait a minute,,,'

Anyhow, the actual issue here was that you repeated a crock sold by conservative media a couple of years back, that the US handed over piles of cash as part of the Iran deal, as a bribe. This was nonsense, and has been clearly explained as nonsense for years now. Can you please finally recognise that you got sold a lie, by people who's job it is to sell lies for political gain? And then just please next time a site called something like Conservative Patriot Free America pops up promising you an exciting scandal, just remember that these fethers keep fething lying to you, and maybe its in your best interest to stop reading that stuff.

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 Vaktathi wrote:
 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
The standard for what is considered to be a Nazi seems absurdly low these days...
Hrm, have you looked at anything regarding the dude in questiom here...?

The dude is a convicted felon who robbed a cab driver because he looked Iraqi, advocates for a "white" secessionist homeland, etc, and came out and publicly stated that he believes Trump was the candidate who' "policies would make America whiter", and more.


And what dude would this be? The guy in my post who punched the woman? Sure, he's a Nazi.

But my comment above which you quoted was not referring to him or anyone specific, it was prompted by Frazzled remarks about Communists and Neo Nazis. I don't doubt that there were some genuine Nazis etc present, but I doubt that all the protesters on the pro Trump side are Nazis, which is how the left wing media and many on this forum tend to characterize them.

The two comments I made were entirely separate, sorry for the confusion.

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 Adeptus Doritos wrote:
 Spinner wrote:
Wait, so, I'm confused. It's not funny when Nazis get punched, but it is funny when the people who punch Nazis get punched? I just want to know which incident means the death of free speech.


It's funny when people go looking to hurt other human beings and get rocked in the mouth. If you watch the video, you can actually see the moment where she realizes that she made a terrible mistake.

Did these AntiFa losers just think that showing up to right-wing groups and attacking people wouldn't blow back on them?


Of course they do. They have been protected by the police for the last several months. The rightwing mouthbreathers have finally started pushing back.

As a bystander who demands to be entertained, I want to rugby type scrums, and maybe each side [ick a champion (in proper Roman costume) and have at it, agai for my amusement.


-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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 whembly wrote:
The Iranian government doesn't deserve recompense. I'd tell them that we'd escrow it, with interest, and only release it on a regime change.


It isn't recompense. Recompense is giving money to make up for some harm you did a person, ie paying them $10,000 for hitting them with your car. What the US did was return money that it took for weapons, weapons that it then understandably didn't deliver. When you don't deliver the goods, you return the money, there is no simpler rule in business.

If you want to talk about actual recompense, then you'd probably want to start with the billions paid to US citizens as recompense for their assets in Iran that were destroyed or seized during and after the revolution.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
So one fascist punched another fascist?


I'd say one hooligan pucnhed another hooligan. I don't think either of these guys are educated on the political nuances of Italian political parties.

-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
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