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Let's say I want to run a ton of space marines with combi-meltas and instead of using the bits that come with the kit, I go to, say, Spellcrow and buy a few of their """"""Combined Melting Guns"""""".

Would this pass the WYSIWYG test even though I technically haven't given my models the correct gun?

Generally speaking WYSIWYG is not about perfection but about clarity - and typically primary weapons are the only thing people expect to be able to identify on the models.

So if all your combi-meltas are the same then its easy to remember and you shouldn't have any problems; even GW stores shouldn't offer much opposition since its only one part (its not like you're playing a full proxy army with 3rd party models).



Upgrades are generally not needed, since many are often minor details (eg grenades on the belt or medals on the model) which are generally invisible in normal play and also tend to be impractical from a model purchase standpoint (because the number of combinations is far too great to own divese models in every combo - esp when one considers how upgrades change between codex editions).
Of course some people take great pride in having all upgrades visibly on the model; but most players won't insist upon it - provided that your army list is clearly written out and easy to reference during the game.

WYSIWYG is not about the exact same gun, its about being the same gun. There are some guns with different models, for example the old ones, which are still valid. Its about recognizing a model piece as what it is. In other worlds it is about weapon A being weapon A and not weapon B, so you don't get confused and think it is weapon B.

Long as a flamer for example looks like one...

If its HH.. 3rd party, 40k or from a another amty and modifed.

Long as that's reconisablena flamer its fine.

Sometimes it's impossible though. Necron Overlords for example come with Warscythe and Res Orb, no other wargear options. Those two items aren't even default equipment, they are purchased upgrades. There's no official way to depict an Overlord with a Staff of Light (his basic weapon).

I know people who use historical models with rifles as that one not!British Imperial regiment, where the rifles represent lasguns. Now, as long as there are no non-rifle lasguns and no non-lasgun rifles, nobody will complain. It's about clarity and consistency, not accuracy.

As long as it looks roughly the same I'm fine.
I see plenty of people using spellcrow parts.

I use their blizzard missile launchers on my deathwatch terminators even.

As long as it's clear and concise.
So using the same weapons to represent each.
Rather than "these 2 plasma like weapons are actually a plasma and a melta"

As long as it's clear and consistent on whats what, proxy anything. if you say all my flamers are really plasma guns, cool.

Torquar wrote:
Sometimes it's impossible though. Necron Overlords for example come with Warscythe and Res Orb, no other wargear options. Those two items aren't even default equipment, they are purchased upgrades. There's no official way to depict an Overlord with a Staff of Light (his basic weapon).

Just to clear this up, yes there is. The model comes in the Catacomb Command Barge/Annihilation Barge kit.

I'm quite strict about WYSIWYG, I've magnetized a lot of miniatures (more than 300 magnets used) to respect it, I've also scratch built and converted a lot of stuff but always with a resemblance to the original models replaced. That's how I like to play and convert models is a lot of fun in my opinion. But I would play against everyone and everything, it's a game after all, so I don't care about other people choices, if they proxy a lot of models I'm ok with that.

 Bi'ios wrote:

Torquar wrote:
Sometimes it's impossible though. Necron Overlords for example come with Warscythe and Res Orb, no other wargear options. Those two items aren't even default equipment, they are purchased upgrades. There's no official way to depict an Overlord with a Staff of Light (his basic weapon).

Just to clear this up, yes there is. The model comes in the Catacomb Command Barge/Annihilation Barge kit.

Nope, that's a Warscythe too.

Quote from the CCB Games Workshop page, "The Command Barge is a striking and imposing model. Adorned with Necron iconography and dynastic glyphs, it makes for an impressive addition to any Necron collection. It features a scythe-like mid section, the points of which surround two Necron minions that attend the control dashboard. Above them, a skeletal Necron Lord stands defiantly behind an elegant rail, gesturing forward with his warscythe.".

The original Necron Lord (available until a couple of years ago) had a staff of light. If you don't have that model, then your options are:

Just field the model you own and be done with it.

Chop the blade off and call it a staff. That seems WYSIWYG enough from here. The other Lord model, with Resurrection Orb, looks like a hand swap from a Destroyer would be straightforward.