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Ok so I have been pondering a list with this new detachment. It says that when a troop unit is destroyed you roll a dice. On a 5+ it goes back into on going reserves.

Ok so a few questions.

1. Say you buy a unit of militarum tempestus (has deep strike rule) and you buy a fast attack pod for them to arrive in. When they die and make a 5+ to come back can they arrive from ongoing reserves using their deepstrike ability. Deepstrike says a unit must start the game in deepstrike reserves to arrive that way and technically they did. Now, say you bought the original pod a homing beacon. When the newly created unit arrives (turn 2 we will say) can they arrive by the beacon and not scatter?

2. If a unit buys a vehicle as an upgrade (speeder storm for SM scouts for instance) does this count as an "upgrade" for the special rules of the detachment? If so then say the scouts got out and were killed but their storm wasn't then they make their 5+ to comeback on would the new unit get a NEW storm since its an "upgrade". I highly doubt it and don't plan to play it that way but just wondering consensus. I cant imagine you would get to make free ones lol


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1.) It's heavily debated (Even by my own post a few posts below yours on the front page) whether Scions may deep strike upon returning.

2.) A dedicated Transport is NOT an upgrade, it does however become the unit type of it's selection, IE Troops if a Troop buys them, etc.

The vehicle would respawn on its own 5+, separate from the troop unit.

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Very good. That's basically how I viewed it but was wondering.

I will check out your thread! (I am bad a looking first lol)

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 Icelord wrote:
1. Say you buy a unit of militarum tempestus (has deep strike rule) and you buy a fast attack pod for them to arrive in.

Despite being in the same detachment, they're still different Factions and it's debated whether they would be ale to begin in the drop pod.

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That's an interesting point. Its so much worse if you cant do that lol


I have considered spamming bikes too

I mean technically if you take a marine character on a bike then bikes become troops right? So you can just take 4 units of bikes then.

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 Icelord wrote:
That's an interesting point. Its so much worse if you cant do that lol


I have considered spamming bikes too

I mean technically if you take a marine character on a bike then bikes become troops right? So you can just take 4 units of bikes then.


Not just any old marine character on a bike will do. For example, a techmarine on a bike won't.
   
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 doctortom wrote:
 Icelord wrote:
That's an interesting point. Its so much worse if you cant do that lol


I have considered spamming bikes too

I mean technically if you take a marine character on a bike then bikes become troops right? So you can just take 4 units of bikes then.


Not just any old marine character on a bike will do. For example, a techmarine on a bike won't.


Actually the rule mounted assault (under bikes) says any independent character on a bike changes them to bikes. So yes he can.

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 Icelord wrote:
 doctortom wrote:
 Icelord wrote:
That's an interesting point. Its so much worse if you cant do that lol


I have considered spamming bikes too

I mean technically if you take a marine character on a bike then bikes become troops right? So you can just take 4 units of bikes then.


Not just any old marine character on a bike will do. For example, a techmarine on a bike won't.


Actually the rule mounted assault (under bikes) says any independent character on a bike changes them to bikes. So yes he can.


My mistake - flashback to an earlier edition where they didn't.
   
 
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