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"Jump units can use their Jump Packs once each turn to move more swiftly in either the Movement Phase or the Assault Phase - they cannot use their Jump Packs in both phases in the same turn"

Does arriving from Reserve count as using your Jump Pack in the Movement Phase? What if you're a Daemon that arrives not from the air but from a rift in reality?

Edit: note that this question is about units that have a rule overriding the 'no charging from reserve' rule.

If your question is, can all jump infantry assault on the turn they deep strike, the answer is no, since the rules for deep striking specifically say you cannot assault from deep strike.

That said, I have always played my murder talon raptors as having HoW from the jump packs in the assault on the turn they deep strike, because the jump packs have not been used for any 'Movement' that turn.

From 'Moving On From Reserve' (pg. 136, main rulebook):

A unit cannot charge, or use any abilities or special rules that must be used at the start of the turn, in the turn it arrives from Reserve.

 lindsay40k wrote:
"Jump units can use their Jump Packs once each turn to move more swiftly in either the Movement Phase or the Assault Phase - they cannot use their Jump Packs in both phases in the same turn"

Does arriving from Reserve count as using your Jump Pack in the Movement Phase? What if you're a Daemon that arrives not from the air but from a rift in reality?

For those few that CAN Charge after arriving from Reserves, it depends on how the Jump Infantry comes on to the table. For example, if not using Deep Strike, and they use their Jump Packs to move on the board from the Player's Edge or Outflank, they wouldn't normally be able to Charge with their Jump Packs.

Deep Strike is not noted as using the Jump Pack Movement, either in Deep Strike rules or in the Jump unit rules. The unit was not there, then is there. They probably didn't bother addressing it since under normal rules, you can't charge anyway, but this just shows the lackluster job GW editors do on their rules.

It probably should (unless another rules states otherwise), but that's a discussion for Proposed Rules.

Yeah, my interpretation of it is that a unit that clearly arrives by floating down out of the sky can be said to be "using their Jump Packs in the Movement Phase" but if they step out of a Warp Rift or Webway Tunnel or Telly Porta then they are not and get to fire up their jets and HoW when charging. But then that opens up the whole can of worms about AA guns using their Interceptor capability to plug away at a Trygon as it breaks through the pavement...

 lindsay40k wrote:
Yeah, my interpretation of it is that a unit that clearly arrives by floating down out of the sky can be said to be "using their Jump Packs in the Movement Phase" but if they step out of a Warp Rift or Webway Tunnel or Telly Porta then they are not and get to fire up their jets and HoW when charging. But then that opens up the whole can of worms about AA guns using their Interceptor capability to plug away at a Trygon as it breaks through the pavement...

And that's why we don't look at the fluff to make rules determinations, it becomes a point where some can and some can't because "reasons" without written rules. There are several storied ways of Deep Striking in, and while Jump Packs use one of them, it is possible to make things rather wonky.

Take a Jump Captain joined to a Terminator Squad. Both can Deep Strike, but normally in different ways. Terminators teleport in, while the Jump Infantry drops in. The story does not allow for Power/Artificer Armored units to be teleported, and the logistics of timing Terminators to appear right around the exploding dirt pile of the Captain's landing is ridiculous. And yet, from a gameplay perspective, 100% legal, and sometimes even desired.

While there is currently no ruling on this, it has been ruled in the past that Jump models deep strike by using their jump packs. However , that is from previous editions and has no bearing on current rules.

This thread has some insight into the fluff side of gaining hammer of wrath after arriving by deepstrike if you're uncomfortable with the idea. It is fluff though, so it will always be a subjective matter.

I am extremely comfortable with my Warp Talons stamping on faces when they arrive but wanted to resolve any rules and narrative issues with doing so