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There is a new detachment coming out for Eldar in the Fracture of Biel tan, which includes a new type of detachment, the Reborn Warhost Detachment. It tells you which units you can use in the detachment specifically, one of which is a Wraithknight. Are you able to use a Skathach Wraithknight instead of a normal one? It isn't listed as an option, but it's not listed as an option in the Eldar codex either so I'm not sure how permission to use one would be granted or denied.

You will have to send an e-mail to FW and ask them about legality.

Why though? What's the difference between Codex: Craftworld Eldar and this publication? Forge world also has a documented history of saying "do whatever you want. Rules are more like guidelines" via email

Rules say marines can take drop pods.
Doesn't give them access to every type of drop pod available.

Being a newer publication it would say if you could take one.
FW or GW may throw out a FAQ or errata at some point, but I wouldn't hold your breath for it.

The Skathach WK is a LoW for Eldar and may replace a regular WK as a Wraith-Construct for the Warhost detachment, or in a WraithHost.

So while you cannot (as yet) take a single Skathach WK as a LoW slot in a Reborn Host, you can squeeze one into a Wraith Host as part of the Reborn Warhost.

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If you look, the Skatach Wraithknight actually answers this. He's not the same unit as a normal Wraithknight (hence the different names) and he has a special rule allowing him to be taken in Craftworld Warhosts:

"When constructing an Eldar army using the Craftworld Warhost Detachment, a single Skathach Wraithknight may be selected as a Wraith Constructs Formation or may be selected instead of the Wraithknight included in a Wraith Host Formation".

In addition to this, the stamps on his page indicate he is a Lord of War choice for Eldar. Ynari are a different faction than Eldar so without some special rule he's restricted solely to the Craftworlds.


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 Galef wrote:
The Skathach WK is a LoW for Eldar and may replace a regular WK as a Wraith-Construct for the Warhost detachment, or in a WraithHost.

So while you cannot (as yet) take a single Skathach WK as a LoW slot in a Reborn Host, you can squeeze one into a Wraith Host as part of the Reborn Warhost.

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Unfortunately, Wraith Construct isn't part of the Reborn Host. Neither the Craftworld Warhost nor the Wraith Construct formations are listed under Reborn. You can take parts of a Craftworld Warhost, but you can't take an actual Craftworld Warhost.

Audustum wrote:
Unfortunately, Wraith Construct isn't part of the Reborn Host. Neither the Craftworld Warhost nor the Wraith Construct formations are listed under Reborn. You can take parts of a Craftworld Warhost, but you can't take an actual Craftworld Warhost.

Right, that is what I was saying. Skathach can be taken as a Wraithconstruct (and thus NOT available for a Reborn Warhost) or can replace the WK in the WraithHost formation (which IS available for the RW).
Unless you are saying that the SWK only replaces the WK in a WraithHost that is part of a CW Warhost? I could see that given the wording "When constructing an Eldar army using the Craftworld Warhost Detachment...."

Either way, I'll be taking a regular Eldar CAD since Hornets are not listed units either. My standard Eldar list includes an inferno lance SWK, 2 Hornets and bikes. Then I might take a Reborn detachment with some CC untis.


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 Galef wrote:

Audustum wrote:
Unfortunately, Wraith Construct isn't part of the Reborn Host. Neither the Craftworld Warhost nor the Wraith Construct formations are listed under Reborn. You can take parts of a Craftworld Warhost, but you can't take an actual Craftworld Warhost.

Right, that is what I was saying. Skathach can be taken as a Wraithconstruct (and thus NOT available for a Reborn Warhost) or can replace the WK in the WraithHost formation (which IS available for the RW).
Unless you are saying that the SWK only replaces the WK in a WraithHost that is part of a CW Warhost? I could see that given the wording "When constructing an Eldar army using the Craftworld Warhost Detachment...."

Either way, I'll be taking a regular Eldar CAD since Hornets are not listed units either. My standard Eldar list includes an inferno lance SWK, 2 Hornets and bikes. Then I might take a Reborn detachment with some CC untis.


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I was actually still a bit more grey in my own understanding at the time, but I think you're right. The Skathach says it can only replace in a Craftworld Warhost - Wraith Host, not just any Wraith Host. So you're probably stuck with a regular Wraithknight for now RAW, a Skathach is likely O.K. in an Ynari Wraith Host RAI.

Audustum wrote:

 Galef wrote:

Audustum wrote:
Unfortunately, Wraith Construct isn't part of the Reborn Host. Neither the Craftworld Warhost nor the Wraith Construct formations are listed under Reborn. You can take parts of a Craftworld Warhost, but you can't take an actual Craftworld Warhost.

Right, that is what I was saying. Skathach can be taken as a Wraithconstruct (and thus NOT available for a Reborn Warhost) or can replace the WK in the WraithHost formation (which IS available for the RW).
Unless you are saying that the SWK only replaces the WK in a WraithHost that is part of a CW Warhost? I could see that given the wording "When constructing an Eldar army using the Craftworld Warhost Detachment...."

Either way, I'll be taking a regular Eldar CAD since Hornets are not listed units either. My standard Eldar list includes an inferno lance SWK, 2 Hornets and bikes. Then I might take a Reborn detachment with some CC untis.


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I was actually still a bit more grey in my own understanding at the time, but I think you're right. The Skathach says it can only replace in a Craftworld Warhost - Wraith Host, not just any Wraith Host. So you're probably stuck with a regular Wraithknight for now RAW, a Skathach is likely O.K. in an Ynari Wraith Host RAI.

I think that RAI GW main don't give a damn about Forgeworld so there was no "intended" for the use of the Skathach, Shadow Spectres, Hornets or any other Forgeworld Eldar model (or the entire Corsairs Faction for that matter, they'd be amazing with Strength from Death).

I'll just be taking a minimum Eldar CAD for my Hornets & Skathach WK. Everything else can go in the Reborn Host or Ulthwe Strike Force.

Just make sure that the CAD units are killing enemies near Ynnari units. Problem solved

No, you cannot use the Skathach in a Ynnari CAD/Formation.

The Skathach is allowed in Eldar armies because it is specifically listed as such. Arguing for it to be allowed in a Ynnari army has just as much merit as arguing for it to be in a Daemonkin army.

But, It will be FAQ’d or ruled on formally somewhere…eventually…maybe?

For now, no.