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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 04:19:27
Subject: Re:Death Guard Tactica
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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On the note of Death Guard/Nurgle Daemons combos, I came up with an idea for a list. 2 Battalion Detachments, 1 for DG and one for Daemons:
Detachment 1: Battalion Detachment (Death Guard)
HQ:
Typhus
Malignant Plaguecaster
Troops:
5 Plague Marines: 2x Blight Launcher, Powerfist on champion
18 Poxwalkers
17 Poxwalkers
Elites:
Helbrute: Multi-melta, Fist with Combi-bolter
Helbrute: Multi-melta, Fist with Combi-bolter
Noxious Blightbringer
Fast Attack:
Foetid Bloat-drone
Dedicated Transport:
Chaos Rhino
Detachment 2: Battalion Detachment (Chaos Daemons)
HQ:
Daemon Prince of Chaos with wings: 2x Malefic Talons
Herald of Nurgle
Herald of Nurgle
Troops:
3 Nurglings
3 Nurglings
20 Plaguebearers: Icon, Instrument
Fast Attack:
3 Plague Drones
Total 1999 points
I feel like this list will be kind of like a wall of death walking (or shambling) up the field. 9 Command Points should be helpful, as well as a total of 5 psykers to cast Smite and some of the decent Nurgle powers. I went with a Daemons Prince rather than a CSM one because it gets Disgustingly Resilient that way. The Helbrutes are there for some heavy firepower, as that is something Death Guard lack for the most part unless we want to take a Land Raider or something. One of my concerns is that the list is too slow, but I have a feeling that's just the way Nurgle plays. Originally I wanted to have a second Prince in there, but I wasn't sure if there was anything to cut to make room for one.
What do you guys think?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 08:02:15
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
Norway, Tønsberg
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I would bring at least 3 drones, they're sick, literally. Too bad the herald is so slow.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 08:49:58
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Ghastly Grave Guard
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Necrosius is only 10pts more than the plaguecaster and him with typhus buffing poxwalkers is ridiculously good. He also has better psychic and stats than plaguecaster
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 12:27:11
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Mutilatin' Mad Dok
Norway, Tønsberg
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Motograter wrote:Necrosius is only 10pts more than the plaguecaster and him with typhus buffing poxwalkers is ridiculously good. He also has better psychic and stats than plaguecaster
Is he in Imperial armour? I can't find him.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 21:15:48
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Fresh-Faced New User
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killerpenguin wrote: Motograter wrote:Necrosius is only 10pts more than the plaguecaster and him with typhus buffing poxwalkers is ridiculously good. He also has better psychic and stats than plaguecaster
Is he in Imperial armour? I can't find him.
Imperial Armour page 40.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/01 22:43:47
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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killerpenguin wrote:I would bring at least 3 drones, they're sick, literally. Too bad the herald is so slow.
Unfortunately I only have the one model, although if one is included in the upcoming smaller starters I might just snag another. They do seem good, although only against infantry or very light vehicles like Land Speeders.
Motograter wrote:Necrosius is only 10pts more than the plaguecaster and him with typhus buffing poxwalkers is ridiculously good. He also has better psychic and stats than plaguecaster
I wish I could, but I don't have access to Forge World stuff right now. Otherwise I would totally do this!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/02 17:16:11
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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New FAQ
Page 57 – Death Guard Army List
Add the following to the list of units that can be from
the Death Guard Legion:
‘Sorcerer on Palanquin of Nurgle (pg 24)
excellent
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/02 22:11:57
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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But not the havocs,terminators or chosen that are still missing
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/03 01:54:31
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I have a feeling we will soon get some new unique units that take the place of those. Plus we are almost certainly getting Mortarion. Grandfather Nurgle has not forgotten us!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/03 07:20:13
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Well having fought against girlyman last week i hope Mortarion has a few tricks up his slimy decaying sleeve's
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/06 04:40:19
Subject: Re:Death Guard Tactica
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Looks like we'll be getting the Death Guard codex probably next month. Let's hope Mortarion is good!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/06 05:33:14
Subject: Re:Death Guard Tactica
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Fresh-Faced New User
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ZergSmasher wrote:Looks like we'll be getting the Death Guard codex probably next month. Let's hope Mortarion is good!
Unfortunately, that's a negative. The spoiler for August's White Dwarf was "index astartes". Also, as of their official announcement today, space marines and grey knights will be getting theirs first, followed by chaos space marines and then DG. If the "10 codices before December" holds true, DG will see their release around September.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/06 05:34:26
Subject: Re:Death Guard Tactica
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Ship's Officer
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ZergSmasher wrote:Looks like we'll be getting the Death Guard codex probably next month. Let's hope Mortarion is good!
Hopefully, even if he is just alright i'm sure he will be worth using...simply cause the model is gonna be awe inspiring based on those old leaked images.
I just hope everything the DG get has its use and purpose, and is worth taking. So there isn't just one way to build a DG force. I do kind of hope nurglings, plaguebearers and basic daemon troops might make it into the DG codex.. I don't feel like buying the index just to field a few nurglings.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/14 13:55:12
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Hi fellas! Last day I was wiped out by a cult mechanicus army, how do you deal against:
1. Heavy shooting armies
2. Imperial Knights
The only solutions I found was to take terminatos as auxiliary detachment, and use a DP with warptime, against the IK I have 2 predators, but they get wrecked so easily by dunecrawlers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/14 16:07:01
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Play a different faction.
DG are currently very underpowered.
No idea what logic dictated that - as one of the two factions in the starter - we don't get our codex until fricking September.
Colour me unimpressed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/17 09:19:06
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was just reading the wiki and it made comment that the DG Primarc is making a return in the 8th codex. Can anyone confirm this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/17 09:33:58
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Gibs55 wrote:I was just reading the wiki and it made comment that the DG Primarc is making a return in the 8th codex. Can anyone confirm this?
It's been heavily teased yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 00:51:41
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Would it be unwise to pickup a unit of Deathshroud terminators? Or is the general concenus that they will also be included in the next Codex?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 01:55:19
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Water-Caste Negotiator
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Gibs55 wrote:Would it be unwise to pickup a unit of Deathshroud terminators? Or is the general concenus that they will also be included in the next Codex?
Don't buy anything yet. Except starter box stuff, that is great. Oh and the new 3-man snapfit Plague Marines as they come with Blight Launcher.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 12:59:51
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Enigmatic Chaos Sorcerer
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Gibs55 wrote:Would it be unwise to pickup a unit of Deathshroud terminators? Or is the general concenus that they will also be included in the next Codex?
It's unlikely the actual Deathshroud terminators (as in the Forgeworld ones) will be in the new codex, there's a picture of a Death Guard terminator with some unknown crazy weapon. I would not buy anything yet until the Codex, which is unfortunate as currently Death Guard seem fairly lackluster unless you run a horde of Poxwalkers.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 14:47:19
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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can someone just clear something up for me, the whole Keyword thing at the moment, despite it meant to be easy, has me confused a little (although that is easily done)
Lets say I had a Death Guard detachment, to make it easier using the models from the box set. They all share faction keywords Chaos, Nurgle and Death Guard. DG gives them the faction bonus that plague marines are troops not elites and access to the DG psychic powers.
Now lets say I want to add a Herald of Nurgle to the detachment. We know it "can" because it has Chaos and Nurgle keywords, but if it joins does the rest of the detachment lose the Death Guard keyword and the benefits of it, or does the Herald simply not "gain" that keyword? The rule books states that for all models in a detachment must have the same keyword. In this example they kinda all do (Chaos, Nurgle) but not the DeathGuard. So does the detachment then lose the DG keyword and benefits?
I know its probably really simple but just not sure what is 100% right
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 15:10:25
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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There are no DG faction benefits.. or rathe, they are not related to detachments. Plague marines with the DG Keyword are troops, that's true in any detachment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 15:57:10
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Captyn_Bob wrote:There are no DG faction benefits.. or rathe, they are not related to detachments. Plague marines with the DG Keyword are troops, that's true in any detachment.
ok I can see that, its more a keyword benefit rather than a detachment benefit, I see, but my question is still relevant. In order to be part of a detachment all units must have the same keyword. If a Herald joins the detachment do the rest of the units have to then use the Chaos or Nurgle keyword instead of the DG keyword, thus losing the "Lords of the plague Host" benefit of being troops? Otherwise we would have a detachment made up of Death Guard units and 1 random Nurgle unit.
Cheers
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 16:32:41
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Your common keyword would become CHAOS or NURGLE but that has no effect on the rules.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 16:40:22
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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You simply have to treat Plague Marines with Death Guard Keyword in the troop slot as a totally different unit than the Plague Marines with a [Legion] keyword in the elite-slot of CSM.
You can put Plague marines in the troop slot, but then they have to be Death Guard and can't, for example, benefit from a [Black Legion] Lord. There is actually no bonus to a Death Guard Detachment, there's only a bonus to Plague Marines with the Death Guard keyword.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 16:49:29
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Saying that, this will probably change when the codex drops.
Marine chapter tactics ate faction detachment dependent
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 19:31:04
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Ok cheers guys, think i understand it a bit more.
so simply put, i can put a Herald of Nurgle in my (90%) death Guard detachment with no negative effects to the abilities of the units already in it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 20:29:57
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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garetheves wrote:Ok cheers guys, think i understand it a bit more.
so simply put, i can put a Herald of Nurgle in my (90%) death Guard detachment with no negative effects to the abilities of the units already in it? 
Exactly, he will even boost your Bloat Drone, as it has the Nurgle Daemon keywords.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/18 20:57:36
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Dark Angels Neophyte Undergoing Surgeries
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Sgt. Cortez wrote:garetheves wrote:Ok cheers guys, think i understand it a bit more.
so simply put, i can put a Herald of Nurgle in my (90%) death Guard detachment with no negative effects to the abilities of the units already in it? 
Exactly, he will even boost your Bloat Drone, as it has the Nurgle Daemon keywords.
Thats why im asking bt didnt know if it would mess up the existing detachment
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/19 08:57:19
Subject: Death Guard Tactica
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Plus he can heal the bloat drone
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