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What do you think about my Farsight Enclaves 1850 points Hunter Cadre?

FARSIGHT HUNTER CADRE (UNIT SIZE / POINTS PER BATTLESUIT / UNIT POINTS


COMMANDER Unit Size Points
* Commander Commander 2 Missile Pod, Target Lock, Drone Controller 1,00 128,00 128,00
STEALTH
Elite XV25 Stealth Burst Cannon Ta Lissera 3,00 31,00 93,00
PLASMA
Troop XV8 2 Fusion Blaster each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Plasma Riffles each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Plasma Riffles each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
MISSILE
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
DRONES
* Rapid Marker Drones 4,00 14,00 56,00
HEAVY MISSILE
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 2 early warning override 3,00 66,00 208,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 2 early warning override 3,00 66,00 208,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 1 early warning override 3,00 66,00 203,00

35,00 1.850,00
   
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I like the load outs I'm seeing, but the one comment I would make is consider cutting back just a bit on the dakka to get some more marker lights. From what I see you've only got one source and marker lights are a huge strength multiplier for Tai.
   
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fer1 wrote:
What do you think about my Farsight Enclaves 1850 points Hunter Cadre?

FARSIGHT HUNTER CADRE (UNIT SIZE / POINTS PER BATTLESUIT / UNIT POINTS


COMMANDER Unit Size Points
* Commander Commander 2 Missile Pod, Target Lock, Drone Controller 1,00 128,00 128,00
STEALTH
Elite XV25 Stealth Burst Cannon Ta Lissera 3,00 31,00 93,00
PLASMA
Troop XV8 2 Fusion Blaster each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Plasma Riffles each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Plasma Riffles each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
MISSILE
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
DRONES
* Rapid Marker Drones 4,00 14,00 56,00
HEAVY MISSILE
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 2 early warning override 3,00 66,00 208,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 2 early warning override 3,00 66,00 208,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 1 early warning override 3,00 66,00 203,00

35,00 1.850,00


That it's not legal? You're given a specific set of units that can be taken for which slots and IIRC, FSE doesn't over-ride that.

Even then, You've got 1 markerlight source for 3 plasma/fusion units which all really want ignores cover (even if the boosted BS from combined fire does mitigate ML use somewhat, you're still devoting a very, very large amount of fire to one target to achieve this) and you've passed on the option to give your commander the Iridium armour which is a mind boggling choice since he's going to eat every single krak missile, battle cannon, Ion Accelerator or Lascannon and die horribly in the first round.

I think you're also overinvesting by running 9 broadsides. Yes, they've got a bunch of firepower and come twin linked, but they're also relatively short ranged and are totally static.

I'm also not seeing why you wouldn't drop a single broadside for a 2nd unit of drones to pick up an Aux and turn it into a Hunter Contingent.

Lastly, you're also hyper-boned if anyone dumps a landraider or 3 on the table because those fusion suits aren't going to cut the mustard without quite a bit of luck and even then it may not be enough since they're going to die horribly if they start on the board and can't come down until after any 'raiders (or other transport) have already moved 18" minimum.

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Philadelphia

His list is legal but not a hunter cadre, seems like a CAD. It's certainly not a GT list but it's all suits pretty much, which is fun.

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Why is not legal or a hunter cadre? It is 1 commander, 1-3 elite, 3-6 troops, 1-3 rapid, 1-3 heavy.
There are not much units to use against landraiders anyway...
Can broadsides move and shoot if they are close to a commander of a hunter cadre?
   
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Philadelphia

fer1 wrote:
Why is not legal or a hunter cadre? It is 1 commander, 1-3 elite, 3-6 troops, 1-3 rapid, 1-3 heavy.
There are not much units to use against landraiders anyway...
Can broadsides move and shoot if they are close to a commander of a hunter cadre?


You need an auxiliary for a cadre

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But thats for a hunter contingent, not a hunter cadre isnt it?


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COMMANDER Unit Size Points
Commander Commander 2 Missile Pod, Onager Gauntlet, Drone Controller 1,00 128,00 128,00
STEALTH
Elite XV25 Stealth Burst Cannon Ta Lissera 3,00 31,00 93,00
PLASMA
Troop XV8 2 Blaster Fusion each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Blaster Fusion each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 Twin Linked Plasma Riffles, Ta Lissera 3,00 43,00 129,00
MISSILE
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
DRONES
Drone Network Marker Drones 4,00 14,00 56,00
Rapid Pathfinder Team 4,00 11,00 44,00
HEAVY MISSILE
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 1 early warning override 3,00 66,00 203,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 1 early warning override 3,00 66,00 203,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera 3,00 66,00 198,00

39,00 1.849,00

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/03/03 18:37:47


 
   
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fer1 wrote:Why is not legal or a hunter cadre? It is 1 commander, 1-3 elite, 3-6 troops, 1-3 rapid, 1-3 heavy.
There are not much units to use against landraiders anyway...
Can broadsides move and shoot if they are close to a commander of a hunter cadre?


fer1 wrote:But thats for a hunter contingent, not a hunter cadre isnt it?

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COMMANDER Unit Size Points
Commander Commander 2 Missile Pod, Onager Gauntlet, Drone Controller 1,00 128,00 128,00
STEALTH
Elite XV25 Stealth Burst Cannon Ta Lissera 3,00 31,00 93,00
PLASMA
Troop XV8 2 Blaster Fusion each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Blaster Fusion each, Ta Lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 Twin Linked Plasma Riffles, Ta Lissera 3,00 43,00 129,00
MISSILE
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
Troop XV8 2 Missile Pod, Ta'lissera 3,00 53,00 159,00
DRONES
Drone Network Marker Drones 4,00 14,00 56,00
Rapid Pathfinder Team 4,00 11,00 44,00
HEAVY MISSILE
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 1 early warning override 3,00 66,00 203,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera, 1 early warning override 3,00 66,00 203,00
Heavy XV88, Twin Linked high yield missile, Twin linked Smart Missile System Ta'lissera 3,00 66,00 198,00

39,00 1.849,00




As you can see from the image above, it's not "1 commander, 1-3 elite, 3-6 troops, 1-3 rapid, 1-3 heavy." it's a selection of units from various battlefield roles and you've got 6 units of crisis suits and 1 unit of stealths instead of 0-3 total and 0 selections of firewarriors, breachers or kroot instead of 3-6 selections. Even if you apply farsight enclaves Crisis as troops rule, it doesn't change what you can select from each option for a hunter cadre.

As for the Cadre vs Contingent, yes, you can take just a Cadre, but the addition of a single unit of drones as an Aux choice (or any Aux choice, but drones are the cheapest and easiest to include and every Tau player will be able to scrounge 4 drones together) will give you a bunch of extra rules for nothing (in this case, co-ordinated firepower, which can be a pretty big deal).

As to the run and shoot for broadsides when within 12" of a commander (or firebalade) from a Hunter cadre, yes, they can.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/03/05 14:34:08


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What, you don't like rolling dice to see how many dice you roll? Why are you such an anti-dice bigot?
 
   
 
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