Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

 Gamgee wrote:
The squatting of The Tau begins. Soon it will be space marines all the time. :( If ward is involved it is going to be the dumbest gak ever like evil chaos Tau or something even dumber. Everything evil rumoured about Tau will be confirmed and then we be crushed to make IoM look cool. Why do I want to give GW any money? They aren't updating xenos I like, no deathwatch releases, no more inquisition, and noble bright hammer incoming. GW has in one week found how to stop getting my money. Assuming these are true.

Just from a personal point of view, hiring Ward was a big mistake on GW's part. If the rumours are true, Ward's being involved in developing the synergy of play style in the upcoming rumoured 8th edition and its armies (e.g. the rumoured tau). The GK codex was really controversial and unprofessional, both on Ward and GW's part. If Ward is involved, I wouldn't be surprised if the Tau become the "colony" of the Imperium or something along those lines.

You use the word rumoured repeatedly for things that simply aren't rumoured.

nightshae007 wrote:

Look, you can go back and see the dates yourselves - but this was actually before anything was released by GW regarding Tzeentch stuff. Last time I posted information given to me by Dragonalpha, there was a huge discussion and essentially the rumour of a plastic LOC was shot down. Sure, people might take this as a pile of salt, some might find it to be an effort to actually provide some better insight into the direction of 40k for a lot of fans. Regarding the identities of the insiders, it is pretty obvious that I cannot specifically mention any names or any specific projects that they were/are linked to without their full consent. Dragon alpha has given me information as long as he is anonymous. Trying to seek any justification in forcing someone to reveal his identity is somewhat over the top for people who collect/play 40k as a hobby. For insiders, they know they're taking some level of risk in sharing the information, but they still do it to help fans out of the

Thing is, you're focussing in the things you got right, while simultaneously glossing over everything you got wrong (which is most of it.)

Sure, you 'predicted' the LOC, but at a point in time when other, far more credible, rumourmongers had been predicting plastic greater daemons for months, even years, at the same point. Simply put, anyone with half a brain had a 1 in 4 chance of getting it right, and that's without going back and checking what other rumourmongers were saying around the time of your post.

Incidentally, if one googles Dragonalpha837, all of the first page of links and beyond link to nightshae's posts or articles, tweets etc citing them as the source.

Seems odd to have an online username and not seem to be active online?


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I just went back and did a very quick, cursory search, and it appears Tzeentch rumours were around in July 2015 (BOLS of all things!) a comfortable 4 months before nightshae's 2015 post.

nightshae007 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
The squatting of The Tau begins. Soon it will be space marines all the time. :( If ward is involved it is going to be the dumbest gak ever like evil chaos Tau or something even dumber. Everything evil rumoured about Tau will be confirmed and then we be crushed to make IoM look cool. Why do I want to give GW any money? They aren't updating xenos I like, no deathwatch releases, no more inquisition, and noble bright hammer incoming. GW has in one week found how to stop getting my money. Assuming these are true.

Just from a personal point of view, hiring Ward was a big mistake on GW's part. If the rumours are true, Ward's being involved in developing the synergy of play style in the upcoming rumoured 8th edition and its armies (e.g. the rumoured tau). The GK codex was really controversial and unprofessional, both on Ward and GW's part. If Ward is involved, I wouldn't be surprised if the Tau become the "colony" of the Imperium or something along those lines.

Don't worry this is not true. Matt Ward is a freelance writer who is pitching black library novels to GW. He was asked on Twitter if he had anything to do with gathering storm and his answer was "not a word". When he talked about GW, he said he had a new client not a new employer.

As for the supposed accuracy of the loc rumour, anyone with any sense would guess that it would be a combo kit with Kairos, but crucially the details are wrong. There is no spear. The sword is just a normal sword and not mutated. This is false news!

Do we really need another thread for 8th/40k releases?

 andysonic1 wrote:
Do we really need another thread for 8th/40k releases?

Indeed, this one seems questionable after Az and Kan's comments. Why was it not posted in the other thread in the first place?

Again, I'm just posting what I've heard from DragonAlpha. Like you say, scores of rumourmongers have predicted the LOC over the years. Problem is timing and description. When I received the news from DragonAlpha, he described it as a "mutilated spear". Did I have any vague concept how it looked like? No. Did I quote him? Yes, I did.

@Chikout I'm not sure if you actually looked at the LOC kit, but it actually does come with a mutilated staff and knife - The problem with these descriptions, which you immediately shot down as being "wrong" is that not every GW member works with the same project. This should be self-evident to anyone who works within any form of organisation. If I ask someone who worked in a clothes shop in a mall about the latest smartphone, would he/she be able to give me a clear answer? Very unlikely.

Besides, I'm not sure if you're aware of it, but developing new kits isn't something that happens in a day. It takes multiple sculpts, re-sculpts, revamped ideas to develop a finalised kit. The LOC thread was posted months before the kit was actually released. It's very likely GW might have been going over some finalised designs or etc.

@Azreal13 DragonAlpha is just a last minute pseudonym the insider came up with when I asked him if I could quote him. I don't think it's a good idea to use your regular ID if you're an insider spreading upcoming events in GW.

There's no need to use a pseudonym at all.

Again, I'm just posting what I've heard from DragonAlpha. Like you say, scores of rumourmongers have predicted the LOC over the years. Problem is timing and description

You're not wrong it's a problem, you got the description wrong and didn't specify the timing.

 Accolade wrote:
Why was it not posted in the other thread in the first place?

It's much easier to seek attention with your own thread.

I'm pretty sure if an insider at GW gave themself a pseudonym it would be insidery insider and not dragonalpha.

Joyboozer wrote:
I'm pretty sure if an insider at GW gave themself a pseudonym it would be insidery insider and not dragonalpha.

Nah, it would be something like: Dunkin-Rhoding or Insiderius Secretion (tm).

So no news on a full range of plastic Sisters of Battle?

If you give him a minute I'm sure he can make some up.

Final design was apparently booted and is currently being revamped by Forge World. Haven't seen the pics myself, but Dragonalpha claims that Leman Russ is a "better model" in terms of design, synergy, and popular support. The initial sculpts as I'm told are being re-designed for the next HH book.

Hahahaha. Too bad for you. I can tell you that's exactly NOT how GW/FW works. Forgeworld is a team seperately from the Citadel team, they don't use each other designs to finish stuff.

To give you an example - Plastic Guilliman was done with the FW model as inspiration, but it was designed from scratch (hell, they even wanted to give him russ' belt and dorns power fists among other things in the early design phases). Plastic Horus Heresy was the only project done that involved FW, Citadel and the Black Library (and even here, it was mostly about the artwork, layout and rules for Geigor/Ahriman in Inferno). Other than that, FW doesn't even get to know what main GW is working on for the most part, besides people that were in the citadel team 'till recently. They weren't even aware about the plastic Scarab Occult back when they wrote the 30k rules. And no, FW won't use any GW designs for Sanguinius (even if they would exist ). Simon wanted to do Sanguinius since he started to work on Angron - and he probably will get done per hand (as far as I know only Perturabo was done using CAD3D, Russ for example was done per hand).

Edit: Just to give you an example who worked on Prospero - Robin Cruddace did the rules, Maxime Pastourel did Ahriman, Nic Ho has done the Plastic Tartarus kit, Samir Battistotti has worked on the Sisters of Silence, Dave Thomas has done the Custodes and Steve Party has done the Mark III in plastic. John Michelbach did the designs for the tiles.

Hear ye, hear ye!

The Queen of tabletop news has spoken!

Silence this thread and brand that peasant as the second-rate rumormonger that he is, post-haste!

text removed.
Reds8n

No need for comments like this.

Watch thou tongue, varlet! Her Majesty of the rumor is known throughout the realm of dakka for her charm, wit and honesty with news of fortuitous report!

(Translation: She's always got trustworthy insider news and her blog is awesome! What's not to like? )

Thebiggesthat wrote:
She's a slightly more intelligent Larry Vela, I'm still confused why she's lauded so much on here.

Seriously!??! Check out the rumour accuracy thread. Atia's 73t true 0 false.
Larry Vela 200 true 700 false. She never makes stuff up for clicks. He always does.

I don't understand the Atia hate among a few people. Even if she isn't the amazing rumor monger like you claim she is still very polite, nice, and helpful.

More so than I can say for her haters who come into every topic she posts in and just barely avoid bringing it off topic almost every single time. Now that is far more annoying. They always bring the same accusations, and never any evidence. Actually evidence isn't even needed, but reasoning for the hate. They just "gak" post. It's rather amusing. It's so well timed it almost seems like it;s coordinated, but that would be ridiculous.

Yeah, ragging on Atia's reputation is pointless. Her track record is almost flawless and we find out lots for the first time from Atia's blog. This is why Atia is lauded.

No it would just be nice if she can give us a little bit more info about the general direction of 40k after 8th.

It's so well timed it almost seems like it;s coordinated, but that would be ridiculous.

(Looks at her rivalry with spikey bits and BolS)

Hmmm, yes, ridiculous....

After seeing the conversions of AoS sigmarines into blood angel true scale sigmarines, I can definitely see the appeal of even larger marine miniatures. It's what I wished marines were since the 90s. And given how often people make true scale conversions, i can see that there's a demand for miniatures like that.

Moritan's conversions:

The only way I could be disappointed by something in that direction is if they go too Ultramarine specific and cover them with so many symbols and markings that they can't be anything other than these new guillimarines. It's always been a huge appeal for Space Marine players to choose the chapter that interests them or make up their own.

On the rules side of things, before I'd consider a new version of 40k, it has to make the miniatures feel awesome even in low points games. The main problem with AoS is that it's still about huge collections and even swarms of guys on 40mm bases can be irrelevantly swept aside by giant monsters or special characters. I stopped playing 40k and WHFB because I have no use for the irrelevant wound counter approach to gaming and I certainly won't return as long as that remains the approach. Given the popularity of things like the Imperial Knights, Riptides, etc., I'm guessing the new 40k is going to push collections to be even larger and make even these new super marines largely irrelevant as individual models..

Chikout wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:
She's a slightly more intelligent Larry Vela, I'm still confused why she's lauded so much on here.

Seriously!??! Check out the rumour accuracy thread. Atia's 73t true 0 false.
Larry Vela 200 true 700 false. She never makes stuff up for clicks. He always does.

I should clarify, she's a lot better at choosing which rumours to parrot, hence the more intelligent comment.

...which was a slight, so don't package it as faint praise to try and backpeddle.

Thebiggesthat wrote:

Chikout wrote:

Thebiggesthat wrote:
She's a slightly more intelligent Larry Vela, I'm still confused why she's lauded so much on here.

Seriously!??! Check out the rumour accuracy thread. Atia's 73t true 0 false.
Larry Vela 200 true 700 false. She never makes stuff up for clicks. He always does.

I should clarify, she's a lot better at choosing which rumours to parrot, hence the more intelligent comment.

She doesn't parrot, though. She's very well informed and her accuracy with rumours speaks for itself.

And you wonder why so few women get involved with this hobby... jeez.

This thread is two parts duplicative and one part off topic.