Nu-Marines, first pic

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**Theophony**

Mr_Rose wrote:
That's a very good point; I too have been assuming that the blacked out part is the Marine's back banner but looking closer it clearly can't be:
First, you can see almost the entire top ridge of the backpack and there's no attachment point.
Second, a sergeant banner would be parallel to the shoulders at rest and stick vertically upward; in this pose that would mean it was twisted to the right and tilted forward a bit, which would leave a much different shadow if blacked out.
Third, you can see the top of what looks like it could be a painted banner at the top of the blanked portion and it is very nearly square to the camera.

So I agree it's probably an identifiable custom banner, most likely held by one of the Orcs behind the Marine, rather than a backpack banner.

Or could be another manufacturers item behind it which would blow the whole idea of it being a 'private' event as GW would not have other manufacturers things out.

**FabricatorGeneralMike**

crumby_cataphract wrote:
Crimson wrote:
For what's it worth (i.e. not much) Faeit insider 'confirms' the model pic is genuine:
"The image of the new marine is genuine and sprues have been seen of these new marines. They reflect true scale marines, but are not kitbashed, these are genuine GW prints."

(Edit: removed the misleading pic, pretty sure it was not new.)

I want to believe... Darn Faeit. Quit playing games with my heart!

Faeit and I want to believe should never be in the same sentence.

It's a alright pic if you are into the 'new GW ascetic' CGI crap artwork. Now Forgeworld puts out some nice art work, and some nice models.

That tru-scale would look nice painted yellow tho....

**EnTyme**

Based on how GW has been responding to leaks, I would expect a funny video revealing either this model or something else entirely in the next 24 hours if this is real.

**philbrad**

My biggest question is WHAT IS ON THAT BANNER AND WHY IS IT BLANKED OUT ON A AD-HOC TEASER SHOT??? (or is it? - if there's pay-dirt here I expect GW's Warhammer-Community site to be giving us something very soon, to date they've been quick to react to interwebz leaks of new stuff.

PhilB

**unmercifulconker**

EnTyme wrote:
Based on how GW has been responding to leaks, I would expect a funny video revealing either this model or something else entirely in the next 24 hours if this is real.

Most definitely.

Edit: Or at least something disproving it, they clearly know this is a big discussion atm.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

I call bull. Bits of it look off. The gun muzzle looks like it's been glued on, the feel are the same colour of the old plastics (even lighter than the shoulder pad in the light). It looks like there's an inquisition symbol on the upper left leg, or a one. The picture is too blurry, yet supposedly taken by (judging from the bar at the top) a modern smartphone. If whoever it was found some way of taking a pic at this 'private event' (where they have half painted old metal guardsman and savage orks on what look to be square bases) they could have made it focus, smartphone cameras are actually pretty good nowadays. And before you say, 'but creed it's a resized jpeg,' explain to me why the top bar is in HD. Or what, this was sent in blurry form and then the recipient screenshotted it? Gimme a break, what is this, 1995? Could the person taking the photo not get a decent picture? The leaked pics of Guiliman were way better.

Too much seems off to me. It just doesn't look like a professional CAD model, plus the quality of the picture and the surrounding models, plus the mysterious blacking out of part of the model or something behind it (if you're gonna leak something, why not leak what's there?). I call major bull.

**ZoBo**

the blurriness could be because he took a large-scale shot of the table with his phone, then cropped right in on that part...I know my phone results in awful blurries when I do that...

**CREEEEEEEEED**

Regarding the requests from both the convinced and the sceptical to produce pictures due to light or different coloured plastic, I took the two seconds to use my modern smartphone to place the old plastic next to the new, and what do you know, it looks a hell of a lot like the picture of the 'Nu-marine'.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

Then there's my own patented crap-o-vision, a technique which requires utter ignorance of how to compose and shoot a photo.

So the crap quality could be just that.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

I have no idea how to properly compose a photo. Just look at anything in my p&m blog and it's painfully clear. However, just to get a fairly clear image, all this took was holding the two models in my hand near the ceiling light and taking a photo. It doesn't take a genius.

**ZoBo**

I'll demo the crop screw-up approach...I have a possessed marine handy...

taken from ~2' away and cropped:

taken from ~2" away:

...same mini, placement, and lighting...only change was the distance of my phone camera from the model, and cropping.

**Mr_Rose**

For the third time then, since it has come back up:
Was this Domitar assembled from two different materials, or two different batches, or simply shot in adverse lighting conditions? Tell us, do:

**SlaveToDorkness**

Were you afraid to get caught shooting that picture? Would you face losing your job or possible legal action if caught? Were you rushed for time while the office tattle tail was in the bathroom?

Could be lots of reasons the pic is crap. I'm just saying.

**Starfarer**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
crumby_cataphract wrote:
I'm still amazed that some are doubting the rumour, considering Hastings has corroborated it. That's basically as good as an announcement from GW. The model in the picture may or may not be a conversion, but the existence of new, larger Space Marines in new armour seems pretty certain to me.

The rumour existing doesn't prove the model, and disproving the model doesn't disprove the rumour

Schrödinger's Astartes.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
I have no idea how to properly compose a photo. Just look at anything in my p&m blog and it's painfully clear. However, just to get a fairly clear image, all this took was holding the two models in my hand near the ceiling light and taking a photo. It doesn't take a genius.

I guess - I'm just suggesting possible alternatives here though, rather than seeking to prove or disprove.

For what it's worth, I still reckon it's a conversion - not least because the right arm is clearly too small for the rest of the scale.

**Kanluwen**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Were you afraid to get caught shooting that picture? Would you face losing your job or possible legal action if caught? Were you rushed for time while the office tattle tail was in the bathroom?

Could be lots of reasons the pic is crap. I'm just saying.

If you're so concerned about "getting caught shooting the picture", why shoot the picture?

I mean, the 4chan post that keeps getting bandied about seemed adamant that he would not post pictures because of the fact that it was at a "private event". So why now are we seeing a picture from this supposed "private event"?

**AllSeeingSkink**

SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Were you afraid to get caught shooting that picture? Would you face losing your job or possible legal action if caught? Were you rushed for time while the office tattle tail was in the bathroom?

Yeah, I always LOL when I read people criticising leaked photos for being poor quality when the person was more than likely taking them very rushed.

That said, this model does have a very conversiony feel to it, but seeing as it seems people haven't really been able to identify the parts I remain intrigued.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

But surely if this guy was at this private event, he'd get to see the models up close, probably closer than 2' away. He'd probably be allowed to hold the model if GW were showing it off. Why not snap a quick and discrete photo from 2" away? And why have it placed on a wooden bench with other half painted models (one being an old metal model, why would GW include that at a private showing off event?), and some still on what look to be square bases. It almost looks like it's someone's hobby workbench... almost. (imagine a lot of sarcasm, because that is exactly what it looks like) The whole story doesn't fit, the picture doesn't make sense, it just doesn't seem legitimate.

**Kanluwen**

Mr_Rose wrote:
For the third time then, since it has come back up:
Was this Domitar assembled from two different materials, or two different batches, or simply shot in adverse lighting conditions? Tell us, do:

It's entertaining that you keep posting this.

Keep ignoring the fact that the picture in the OP has a marked delineation between where the dark grey and white grey start. The legs themselves are dark grey while the feet are white grey. Your photo would have more merit if, say, the arm was still dark grey while just the hand was the white grey.

**ZoBo**

the domitar does look like it's a lighting issue...a strong light, maybe a camera flash, out of shot to the right, would be my bet...the feet vs everything else on the marine though, I don't think lighting can really explain that away, looking at the angles of everything etc...only the highest highlighted parts, like the glare on the shoulder pad are around the same colour...whereas the entirety of both feet - even where they would be shadowed, is an obviously lighter grey.

I have some ork boyz built from older and newer ork boy sprues, with older light grey plastic, and the newer darker grey plastic...this looks like them...

**CREEEEEEEEED**

Mr_Rose wrote:
For the third time then, since it has come back up:
Was this Domitar assembled from two different materials, or two different batches, or simply shot in adverse lighting conditions? Tell us, do:

There's clearly two light sources in that picture, which doesn't seem to be the case with the Nu-marine.
Edit: Also, even if there were two or more light sources for the Nu-marine, there would have to be the general ceiling light for the regular dark grey, then two really focused bright lights that didn't affect the lower legs at all, just the feet.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

On the Private Event.....

The only time I know of a member of the public, let alone GW staff getting shown round the Studio was a poor kid that had a nasty arsed life limiting disease - I don't know the whole backstory to that, but he was shown round as a 'Make A Wish' type thing - and got an early release version of the plastic Winged Nazgul.

I've used the bogs next to one of the doors of the studio - you don't get in there unless you work there.

Of course, that was then (2010), and this is now - and GW is certainly a different beast, so whilst I can offer info, I can't say it's 100% up to date accurate, just that it was true at one point.

But 'Private Event? Bollocks it was is my feels. (Again though, happy to eat my words)

**Grot 6**

crumby_cataphract wrote:
I'm still amazed that some are doubting the rumour, considering Hastings has corroborated it. That's basically as good as an announcement from GW. The model in the picture may or may not be a conversion, but the existence of new, larger Space Marines in new armour seems pretty certain to me.

Oh no. No one is doubting that new marines are coming. Just that the one in the picture is not it. How exactly is that a 11+ page of discussion when it is only 1 out of focus picture on someone's dresser next to a bunch of random figures bringing this much back and fourth. Some of these replies are just beyond the pale, as well.

I mean it is like Bigfoot and Nessie had a love child and named it William S. Burroughs or something.

I'm calling B.S. THAT is no new marine photo, that's someone's silly conversion, and if it is true, show us the money. Stand up three different marines, one from second ed. one from current range, and one "Nu Marine" and lets have a proper conversation.

I have a "Nu Marine" as well. His name is Spots.

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Were you afraid to get caught shooting that picture? Would you face losing your job or possible legal action if caught? Were you rushed for time while the office tattle tail was in the bathroom?
Yeah, I always LOL when I read people criticising leaked photos for being poor quality when the person was more than likely taking them very rushed.

That said, this model does have a very conversiony feel to it, but seeing as it seems people haven't really been able to identify the parts I remain intrigued.

But then we're working on the assumption they're all GW parts.

**AllSeeingSkink**

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Were you afraid to get caught shooting that picture? Would you face losing your job or possible legal action if caught? Were you rushed for time while the office tattle tail was in the bathroom?
Yeah, I always LOL when I read people criticising leaked photos for being poor quality when the person was more than likely taking them very rushed.

That said, this model does have a very conversiony feel to it, but seeing as it seems people haven't really been able to identify the parts I remain intrigued.

But then we're working on the assumption they're all GW parts.

Are we? I assumed people were searching through their knowledge of all wargaming parts to try and identify these.

Come on all you nerds, get off your arses and find the parts, don't assume they must be GW parts!

**Mad Doc Grotsnik**

If it is a conversion, I suspect the knee pad has come from a Stormcast Liberator or Judicator. Rivets filed off, attached to a standard Power Armour grieve and upper armour.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

I'm willing to believe there's new marine models coming soon, it kind of makes sense after Guiliman arrives that he'd want to do a bunch of reform and even create new things. But yeah, this picture is definitely not it.

**AllSeeingSkink**

CREEEEEEEEED wrote:
Why not snap a quick and discrete photo from 2" away? And why have it placed on a wooden bench with other half painted models (one being an old metal model, why would GW include that at a private showing off event?), and some still on what look to be square bases.

Who knows? You don't have much of an imagination if you can't think up a situation where someone might only have a chance to get a snap like we have.

As I said, I think it looks very much like a conversion, but if it was I would have expected someone to figure out where the parts came from by now, so I remain intrigued.

**CREEEEEEEEED**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
You don't have much of an imagination if you can't think up a situation where someone might only have a chance to get a snap like we have.

Oh I can imagine the situation alright, but a private viewing isn't it.

**tneva82**

AllSeeingSkink wrote:
SlaveToDorkness wrote:
Were you afraid to get caught shooting that picture? Would you face losing your job or possible legal action if caught? Were you rushed for time while the office tattle tail was in the bathroom?
Yeah, I always LOL when I read people criticising leaked photos for being poor quality when the person was more than likely taking them very rushed.

Thing is though modern smartphones take lot clearer pictures than that pretty much on the fly. You need to hold your hand steady like a tenth of a second.

Albeit distance could be. If he had to take photo like several meters away and then cropped that would result in messy photo. At which point it might be better to post uncropped photo. Better photo with easier to see model(and anybody wishing to see cropped can do so)

It's so crappy picture(and generally leaks tend to be) that it almost has to be DELIBERATELY defocused and blurrified!