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Agreed - does not look like the AoS stuff (which was quite rough).

Yes, the sprueless kits are done elsewhere.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
Well, well, entirely coincidentally Wargames Tournaments are having a scenery sale!

http://www.wargamestournaments.com/shop/terrain/?orderby=popularity

I have some of their Industrial stuff and it's ace.

Interesting. Do they ship to USA? I got an extra $150 because a certain miniatures company doesn't seem to like money.

ExcessivePunk wrote:

So it does include all 3 terrain sets?

Yes and no. There is one sprue of chimneys that is included in both Alchomite Stack and Galvanic Magnavent but only once in the boxed set. In other words, you are one sprue short of full three kits but you have access to all the different parts that are available and you can build any of the smaller kits (but not all of them at the same time).

If WD prices for separate scenery kits are correct, they are priced £30/£30/£45 or £15 per sprue. It means that Shadow War: Armageddon contains £90 worth of scenery vs. buying separately.

Might be worth noting that the facebook post saying that the box is sold out has now been taken down....

Seeing as it was full of people asking for more or hardcopies of books, I have a feeling GW may be posting a response soon.


Also that scenery doesn't look modular but the explanation from white dwarf on how it works relly shows off how good GW have gotten at this whole model making thing.

They've changed their FB post...

Used to say they were looking at doing a digital rule book, but seems we may be getting more than that - but for now that's speculation.

Given it's the weekend, could be the web team have been given a nod from production staff, could be they don't want to say too much on anything,

 BrookM wrote:

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
The terrain will most certainly be thrown out there sooner rather than later, as I've got a feeling they're nowhere near the point of recouping the investment into those molds.

It depends somewhat on how the moulds were made. Various companies around make their money off short run kits, I assume using moulds that aren't intended to do huge runs but can probably be machined faster (look at Special Hobby or Eduard for example, their bread and butter seems to be short run kits many of which are plastic).

Looking at the sprues on the site I'd say these are milled and done up at Nottingham HQ and not outsourced elsewhere.

That doesn't really say much though. They could still have milled it in house out of a different material using a different technique as a short run. And whether it was done in house or externally, I doubt GW's tooling is so bespoke that you couldn't create an identical looking sprue somewhere else (and I'm not saying it would have to be done somewhere else to be a short run mould anyway).

Does GW print their books in house? If not, getting more books printed may have to wait until the printer has a free spot in their schedule.

 Ghaz wrote:
Does GW print their books in house? If not, getting more books printed may have to wait until the printer has a free spot in their schedule.

They seem to get books printed all over the place, I believe all externally. We had this discussion on another thread and found a range of different "made in ..." labels on recent publications.

I don't think they have in-house printing, no. Which is perhaps surprising - but given Print isn't doing so well as an industry, could be it's just not cost effective.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They've changed their FB post...

Used to say they were looking at doing a digital rule book, but seems we may be getting more than that - but for now that's speculation.

Given it's the weekend, could be the web team have been given a nod from production staff, could be they don't want to say too much on anything,

They might be considering doing another run but have to discuss it amongst themselves and amongst people who possibly don't work on weekends before they'll confirm it.

AllSeeingSkink wrote:

 Ghaz wrote:
Does GW print their books in house? If not, getting more books printed may have to wait until the printer has a free spot in their schedule.

They seem to get books printed all over the place, I believe all externally. We had this discussion on another thread and found a range of different "made in ..." labels on recent publications.

I thought as much. Then GW will wait until they have a slot scheduled with the printer(s) before they announce a reprint.

Indeed.

I think they'd be mad not to do a full reprint.

after calling a million LGS managed to find one to preorder

Really ashamed to call myself a fan after this absolute joke of a release. When they pulled this s**t with the plasma obliterated 2 years ago I thought we had seen the last of this awful practice as ALL of the box sets/terrain released (even bringing back the void shield generator) since have been longtime/permanent stock. Nowhere had I seen any mention in the advertising that has been going on for nearly a month that this was a limited release. Would have picked this up for the terrain alone as if I were to get it separately it will cost me £105, £25 more than the actual damn set if you include the cost of the minis you would be paying about £155 for everything separately excluding the rules which will likely cost £20 or so for a digital product. What an absolute ing joke.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Indeed.

I think they'd be mad not to do a full reprint.

I also feel this way... Just have to get the people that makes decisions back in the office on Monday to make the call..

We should hear something next week about additional printing... why send out all the promo stuff to sale a game that has no stock..

Yup.

They do seem responsive these days! So long as they reprint the rule books, I'd call it a win.

Well in other news. Miniwargaming has a BatRep of SW:Armageddon up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5wTHZuk9mQ

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Yup.

They do seem responsive these days! So long as they reprint the rule books, I'd call it a win.

Major win, I'd say -a strong step in the direction of supporting a format people clearly want to play!

Guardsmanwaffle wrote:
Well in other news. Miniwargaming has a BatRep of SW:Armageddon up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5wTHZuk9mQ

How many rules did they get wrong this time?

This ebay seller has a few copis for any US folks who missed out. Snagged one in case my in store preorder doesn't come through for some reason. I'd grab one up if you're thinking about it. http://www.ebay.com/itm/322470357466

 nicromancer wrote:
Might be worth noting that the facebook post saying that the box is sold out has now been taken down....

Seeing as it was full of people asking for more or hardcopies of books, I have a feeling GW may be posting a response soon.


Also that scenery doesn't look modular but the explanation from white dwarf on how it works relly shows off how good GW have gotten at this whole model making thing.

Yep the WD article got me super excited about the terrain. Competely modular and very customisable, and also compatible with every other ecently released kit. Brilliant.

did anybody post the rules for IG ?

Just $250 with FREE SHIPPING on Ebay. Grab them while you can....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Shadow-War-Armageddon-PRE-ORDER-x2-KKs-Games-Warhammer-40K-/322470367312?hash=item4b14bb5050:g:f3EAAOSwDmBY3-5B

Worth it for the rules alone. Worth it for the scenery alone.

Definitely a win for Games Workshop. They have been hitting it out of the park lately. I was going to buy some stock, but its already made its move. Almost double over last 6-8 months.

Mez

 Mymearan wrote:

 nicromancer wrote:
Might be worth noting that the facebook post saying that the box is sold out has now been taken down....

Seeing as it was full of people asking for more or hardcopies of books, I have a feeling GW may be posting a response soon.


Also that scenery doesn't look modular but the explanation from white dwarf on how it works relly shows off how good GW have gotten at this whole model making thing.

Yep the WD article got me super excited about the terrain. Competely modular and very customisable, and also compatible with every other ecently released kit. Brilliant.

That is the reason i was looking forward to it the most, it looks amazing.

This release has shown such a massive lack of awareness of how the hobby actually works at gw hq.

My local GW manager has just said that unlike most releases the number of sets of the that will show up in store will not be know until Thursday (when the delivery arrives?)

sounds more and more that there were just not a lot of these made... and if you want one i'd keep checking online this coming week in case some of the GW store stock is diverted online

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
They've changed their FB post...


Used to say they were looking at doing a digital rule book, but seems we may be getting more than that - but for now that's speculation.

Given it's the weekend, could be the web team have been given a nod from production staff, could be they don't want to say too much on anything,

deleted from facebook?

I have a rules question for anyone in the know...

How many weapons can a model have? I was thinking of giving an Aspiring Champion a power fist, bolter, and combat knife but I'm not sure if that is allowed in the rules (I think in Necromunda you could only have one additional weapon if you had a rifle equivalent).

A few sets listed on eBay, a few sold for £120...