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I am still playing with the idea of building a 30k army but most colour schemes I have seen are kinda dull in my opinion. This could just be the result of me not having seen them all.
Is there a list of pictures with all the colour schemes that are generally accepted in a game of 30k ?




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I like the idea of a traitor, renegade or some army that would later on turn but are these all the options :( All dull monochrome armies except for White + green shoulder pads and red + black shoulder pads ?

Well that's the official colours for the 9 traitor legions. Are there any colour schemes from the 9 loyalists that you like? Remember you can have traitor space wolves as well as loyal sons of horus.

Alternatively go ahead and just invent your own. Maybe employ part of official colour scheme somehow and say they are some chapter(part of legion) that for some reason has different colour scheme for some reason.

It's your hobby so what's important is that YOU enjoy your models.

These are the loyalist right ? I just do not like the monochromeity of it all.

There are Pre-Primarch schemes.
Like the World Eaters were called the Warhounds
The Death Guard were completely different to and called the Dusk Raiders. Thought they were Dark Grey and Red pads. Not sure.

As you mention, most of those Legions have some sort of colour options (for example, Emperor's Children used white and silver armour panels and gold trim; Sons of Horus have the original off-white Luna Wolves, blue-green colour as shown there or black for some units, Imperial Fists have some units using large areas of black or metal armour). Other options include metallic rather than flat colours or camouflage patterns.

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
There are Pre-Primarch schemes.
Like the World Eaters were called the Warhounds
The Death Guard were completely different to and called the Dusk Raiders. Thought they were Dark Grey and Red pads. Not sure.

Those look promising especially the dusk raiders. -> https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/567529.page
If I want to what pattern powr armour would have been available to them ?

 oldzoggy wrote:

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
There are Pre-Primarch schemes.
Like the World Eaters were called the Warhounds
The Death Guard were completely different to and called the Dusk Raiders. Thought they were Dark Grey and Red pads. Not sure.

Those look promising especially the dusk raiders. -> https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/567529.page
If I want to what pattern powr armour would have been available to them ?

Well that's pre-heresy so earlier marks. MKIII no problem so with those being in plastic good option. MKII obviously. Likely MKIV as well. MKV was ad hoc invention I think during horus heresy while this colour scheme went off before and I think MKVI was also seeing use during HH or just before in small quantities so probably best to stay out of that.

But MKII-IV are probably all safe. MKIII might be most appropriate.

Edit: Also note that the example dusk raider army actually DOES differ from fluff a bit:

The Dusk Raiders' base pattern Power Armour was an unpainted storm grey. The entire right vambrace, gauntlet and shoulder plate (sometimes both) were painted the deep crimson of drying blood, which signified the XIVth Legion's status as the "red right hand" of the Emperor's justice.

So it has right colours but exact implementation differs a bit. You could do similar thing with other legions as well.

Thanks would it make sense for a small faction of Dusk raiders to reject Mortarion turning "black shield" ?

You may also run into formations within the Legions that had different paint schemes (e.g. the Templar Brethren, black armour with yellow pads/shields rather than full yellow), or warbands that repainted themselves after the Heresy started for one reason or another.

If you wanted to paint Dusk Raiders they could be Death Guard who got off Istvaan somehow or escaped when Garro did, and chose to revert to pre-Mortarion/Barbarus colours/name/traditions as a sign of their rejection of his treason, at which point most marks of armour make sense.


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 oldzoggy wrote:
Thanks would it make sense for a small faction of Dusk raiders to reject Mortarion turning "black shield" ?

Absolutely.

if you search about there are plenty of alternate colour schemes for the legions in the artwork from the big HH books. for example, later during the heresy elements of the world eaters replaced the blue trim with red. while the word bearers were originally grey before turning traitor. another example I can think of is emperors children with black accentuated with purple which had been painted by one of FW's designers.

There's a mention in Conquest of: "recurring reports of multiple Space Marine strike forces seemingly in the resurrected livery of the Dusk Raiders thwarting the Iron Warriors at Kibron and Malinche's Fall."

There's contradiction regarding the Dusk Raiders scheme though, in Flight of the Eisenstein they were described as being: "the dull white of old marble, but with their right arm and shoulders coloured in a deep, glistening crimson." whilst the *Death Guard* were described a being storm-grey. FW then made the Dusk Raider storm-grey in Betrayal.

 Glasdir wrote:
another example I can think of is emperors children with black accentuated with purple which had been painted by one of FW's designers.

Interesting. There's a painted example of a converted Vindicator in WD 125 or thereabouts in Emperor's Children colours; dark charcoal grey with purple flashes. I thought it was cool so I copied it for my laser destroyer Vindicator. I'm planning to do a Recon squad or something similar in the same "urban low-visibility" colours. Any pics of these models anywhere?

 Gashrog wrote:
There's a mention in Conquest of: "recurring reports of multiple Space Marine strike forces seemingly in the resurrected livery of the Dusk Raiders thwarting the Iron Warriors at Kibron and Malinche's Fall."

There's contradiction regarding the Dusk Raiders scheme though, in Flight of the Eisenstein they were described as being: "the dull white of old marble, but with their right arm and shoulders coloured in a deep, glistening crimson." whilst the *Death Guard* were described a being storm-grey. FW then made the Dusk Raider storm-grey in Betrayal.

The point of the Dusk Raider/Death Guard scheme is that the grey-white is what ceramite looks like when unpainted; they're supposed to have made little to no concession to decoration.

Given the variance of the shades and that the Grey Knights' silver armour is also supposed to be unpainted ceramite I may go so far as to suggest 'ceramite' may be a term for a class of material as opposed to a single substance, and what colour it is can vary depending on source or method of manufacture.

Don't the Imperial Fists have a black and yellow scheme for Pre-Crusade honors?

Edit: It's the unification era scheme

 AnomanderRake wrote:

 Gashrog wrote:
There's a mention in Conquest of: "recurring reports of multiple Space Marine strike forces seemingly in the resurrected livery of the Dusk Raiders thwarting the Iron Warriors at Kibron and Malinche's Fall."

There's contradiction regarding the Dusk Raiders scheme though, in Flight of the Eisenstein they were described as being: "the dull white of old marble, but with their right arm and shoulders coloured in a deep, glistening crimson." whilst the *Death Guard* were described a being storm-grey. FW then made the Dusk Raider storm-grey in Betrayal.

The point of the Dusk Raider/Death Guard scheme is that the grey-white is what ceramite looks like when unpainted; they're supposed to have made little to no concession to decoration.

Given the variance of the shades and that the Grey Knights' silver armour is also supposed to be unpainted ceramite I may go so far as to suggest 'ceramite' may be a term for a class of material as opposed to a single substance, and what colour it is can vary depending on source or method of manufacture.

Wasn't gw's idea at least once colour is done in production so it's not painted over? (Resulting in chips showing different colour being incorrect actually).

Could be wrong though

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 Glasdir wrote:
another example I can think of is emperors children with black accentuated with purple which had been painted by one of FW's designers.

Interesting. There's a painted example of a converted Vindicator in WD 125 or thereabouts in Emperor's Children colours; dark charcoal grey with purple flashes. I thought it was cool so I copied it for my laser destroyer Vindicator. I'm planning to do a Recon squad or something similar in the same "urban low-visibility" colours. Any pics of these models anywhere?

should be some out there, but you would have to do a bit of digging (I saw them personally at warhammer fest last year). its a lovely scheme, the black and purple were done with clears if I remember correctly, which gives them a lovely smokey black colour.
EDIT: found some over at battle bunnies on their coverage of the event, however the vehicles (which utilize the scheme) aren't covered well by the photos.
would love to see some pics of yours, it sounds like an interesting scheme.

As well as all the pre-Crusafe schemes, bear in mind that lots of the 2nd founding Lotalist Chapters started out as specific companies within the Legion, and many of them used their own variant markings. Legions we're so massive that's there wee considerable changes between companies.

For example, both the origins of the Nemesis Chapter and he Novamarines are covered in the novels, and both mention that they have distinct colour schemes (Nemesis Chapter starting out as a Destroyer company and thus blue and black).

There's also mentions of the genesis of the Red Talons (Iron Hands with a lot of red detailing, later to become entirely red) and the Flesh Tearers (Blood Angels with black detailing and lots of weathering, later to become dark red and black).

You could always use a second founding chapter's scheme and mix it with the parent legion to represent them when they were just a company..

 Glasdir wrote:
should be some out there, but you would have to do a bit of digging (I saw them personally at warhammer fest last year). its a lovely scheme, the black and purple were done with clears if I remember correctly, which gives them a lovely smokey black colour.
EDIT: found some over at battle bunnies on their coverage of the event, however the vehicles (which utilize the scheme) aren't covered well by the photos.
would love to see some pics of yours, it sounds like an interesting scheme.

Interesting. Looks like he was inspired by the same pic I was.

This is mine:


And this is the one that inspired me:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:
Don't the Imperial Fists have a black and yellow scheme for Pre-Crusade honors?

Edit: It's the unification era scheme

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They also have a inverse black and yellow version.
Like same with black armour and yellow shoulders.

Plus there's no saying you cannot interpret the schemes....

Exactly. The Legions have about a hundred thousand guys in them, and the Forge World books show you what about a dozen of 'em look like. Do what everyone used to do, and make up something you like.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Exactly. The Legions have about a hundred thousand guys in them, and the Forge World books show you what about a dozen of 'em look like. Do what everyone used to do, and make up something you like.

Also if two legion task forces fight together long ernough.
Sigmound took the idea of chaining his weapon.

Its not too far to day they take elaments of another's hearaldry along aide there own after a few decades on crusade together.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Interesting. Looks like he was inspired by the same pic I was.

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This is mine:

And this is the one that inspired me:

wouldn't surprise me if he was inspired by the same pic, Andy Hoare has been working at GW for quite some time. your paintjob is very nice too I must add. I like the simplicity too it, any plans to add decals? I think a nice gold legion numerical on the side would look pretty good.

I need to add decals to all my army, so at some point it'll get them. It's got a white inverted V on the other side.

I think if I add ID markins they'll be "low-visibility"; outlines instead of solid figures, that sort of thing. I did the same with my Hunter tank destroyer for my Guard army

It really looked the business lurking in a ruined building blowing up Imperial Fists land raiders.