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 Rippy wrote:
Hello everyone, I am super pumped for these new releases. I can hardly hold on to my seat.

A couple of things for people who look poorly on some of the aspects:

These look too mutated

Death Guard are not for you, congratulations on saving money

The paint job isn't the way I personally like it, therefore I am liking this release less

Umm.. paint it differently?
The way these are painted shows off the detail properly.

I don't like that they are all mark III!!!!

They hardly look like mark three, and nothing is stopping you kit bashing your other marks in


It has been a while since I have been on this site, and this thread reminded me why. Rather than talking about the release, there is instant negativity based on 4 pictures.
There is whining how it doesn't suit your personal army.
There is whinging about the aethetics.

Wait for full release, and buy it or don't.


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 redleger wrote:
FFS its mid April, when are we gonna see something new on this. Im glad they are showing stuff early, but Im sitting here holding on to the money for one of everything and I am trying to keep my wife from spending it.


Haha the struggle is real.
Open another bank account and transfer the money in to there

Thank God you are here to straighten everything out! Without the light of your truth surely GW fandom would degenerate into horrible things like "individual opinions" and/or "disagreements."
   
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Dr._Jim_J_Jimmy wrote:
 Rippy wrote:
Spoiler:
Hello everyone, I am super pumped for these new releases. I can hardly hold on to my seat.

A couple of things for people who look poorly on some of the aspects:

These look too mutated

Death Guard are not for you, congratulations on saving money

The paint job isn't the way I personally like it, therefore I am liking this release less

Umm.. paint it differently?
The way these are painted shows off the detail properly.

I don't like that they are all mark III!!!!

They hardly look like mark three, and nothing is stopping you kit bashing your other marks in


It has been a while since I have been on this site, and this thread reminded me why. Rather than talking about the release, there is instant negativity based on 4 pictures.
There is whining how it doesn't suit your personal army.
There is whinging about the aethetics.

Wait for full release, and buy it or don't.


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 redleger wrote:
FFS its mid April, when are we gonna see something new on this. Im glad they are showing stuff early, but Im sitting here holding on to the money for one of everything and I am trying to keep my wife from spending it.


Haha the struggle is real.
Open another bank account and transfer the money in to there

Thank God you are here to straighten everything out! Without the light of your truth surely GW fandom would degenerate into horrible things like "individual opinions" and/or "disagreements."

Hello new friend. Do you see the irony in saying that I am shooting down people's individual opinions, while shooting down my individual opinion?
I don't like premature negativity, sue me.
We have people giving full reviews with scores out of 10, and we have seen 3 models. I came here for news and hype, not people's personal youtube style reviews on a release that hasn't been released yet. I am allowed to express my frustration.

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Anyone able to give any to back this up?

http://natfka.blogspot.ie/2017/04/deathguard-not-coming-soon-as-expected.html?m=1

Sounds like bs to me, since the painting thing is happening at warhammer fest, but you never know.
   
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 Enginseer Kalashnikov wrote:
Anyone able to give any to back this up?

http://natfka.blogspot.ie/2017/04/deathguard-not-coming-soon-as-expected.html?m=1

Sounds like bs to me, since the painting thing is happening at warhammer fest, but you never know.


They could well be waiting until they have finalised 8th before they bring them out, and maybe its taking longer than they thought it would.

Pretty sure they have plenty more releases they could shuffle about if it was the case.
   
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 Enginseer Kalashnikov wrote:
Anyone able to give any to back this up?

http://natfka.blogspot.ie/2017/04/deathguard-not-coming-soon-as-expected.html?m=1

Sounds like bs to me, since the painting thing is happening at warhammer fest, but you never know.


I call BS...

All the previews at Adepticon were given rough timelines (E.g Shadespire) and the recent preview of the Sepulchral guard was also previewed as "Late 2017"

In stark contrast the DG preview clearly states "Coming Soon" which I can't imagine as more than 1-3 months. The Natfka article also sounds wildly speculative with his direct source saying he doesn't rule out the possibilioty the release was moved up given the Warhammer fest painting event in May.

I also can't imagine why on earth they would release a preview for 4th quarter of 2017 stuff in Q1.
   
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Didn't know there are new audio books set after Gathering Storm with the Yinaaari stealing something from Mortarion. Cheers sfPanzer from B&C for making me aware of this.

Spoiler:


So story on the Plague Planet releases this friday, then the next month's WD goes on pre-order the next day? I can smell (quite literally) their coming. Fully expecting some reveals this week.

#PrayForNurgle.

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Did the Eldar get all five of those fancy sword/weapons they wanted - is Mortarion's scythe the fifth or whatever?
   
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Was literally just thinking that. Was it known where Mortarion's Scythe came from?

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That is interesting but doesn't seem to fit. We know from GS2 that the 4th sword was left on Belial V. Yvraine could sense it but they had to flee from a horde of Daemonettes before they could retrieve it.
The 5th "sword" turned out to be Yriel's Spear of Twilight.

So unless Mortarion was on Belial V (which is possible) his scythe is not the final Crone Sword.

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 unmercifulconker wrote:
Was literally just thinking that. Was it known where Mortarion's Scythe came from?

It is suspected that it was the weapon of his original adoptive father on Barbarus. It has been called a "filthy xenos" weapon.
It is possibly what the Eldar is after, though if they take his scythe I will be pissed off.


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On that note, Plgaue Planet was once an Eldar world meaning it may have artefacts still on the surface.

If the Triumvirate manage an easy victory on Plague Planet, it would make Mortarion as armless as Abaddon. Especially after that terrible Grey Knight writing.

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 Rippy wrote:
 unmercifulconker wrote:
Was literally just thinking that. Was it known where Mortarion's Scythe came from?

It is suspected that it was the weapon of his original adoptive father on Barbarus. It has been called a "filthy xenos" weapon.
It is possibly what the Eldar is after, though if they take his scythe I will be pissed off.


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On that note, Plgaue Planet was once an Eldar world meaning it may have artefacts still on the surface.

If the Triumvirate manage an easy victory on Plague Planet, it would make Mortarion as armless as Abaddon. Especially after that terrible Grey Knight writing.


Cool cheers, hoping to finally start catching up on the HH novels. Thank you Humble Bundle!

I don't think the Eldar will be successful in this mission. I reckon the end will be Mortarion's reveal of his return. Hope you can just buy one part of these audio books so I can skip to the ending. Sorry Xenos, nothing personal.

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Isn't May month preorders coming up on 29th? so like not this weekend bu the next?

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 pizzaguardian wrote:
Isn't May month preorders coming up on 29th? so like not this weekend bu the next?

The 29th is more AOS stuff. Next's months white dwarf is out a week later than usual on May 5th The magazine usually launches alongside preorders for a new range, so if death guard is the next big release we will see their preorders on the 6th.
If GW follows their recent trend of doing previews before blurry white dwarf pics show up, we will see something next week on the community site.
   
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They'll sneak in and steal whatever artifact off the planet which will cause Morty to chase after them and accelerate his plans.
   
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nagash42 wrote:
They'll sneak in and steal whatever artifact off the planet which will cause Morty to chase after them and accelerate his plans.


Is it Morty or Papa Nurgle who has one of the Elven godess prisoner and feeds them really potent plagues to test them on her? Could she be the prize?

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Kharadons were on the cover of the last WD and one of its major features but they got a mid of month release. Maybe GW will repeat this. It isn't actually a bad idea to create more buzz before preorder this way either, as not everyone regularly reads the WarCom site and GW's other digital offerings or community forums or blogs.
   
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 Theophony wrote:
nagash42 wrote:
They'll sneak in and steal whatever artifact off the planet which will cause Morty to chase after them and accelerate his plans.


Is it Morty or Papa Nurgle who has one of the Elven godess prisoner and feeds them really potent plagues to test them on her? Could she be the prize?


Papa Nurgle has the Eldar goddess of healing Isha as his personal disease-taster in his Garden. You have to be pretty ballsy to try and walk in there, not that it hasn't been tried by Eldar before. It didn't end well...

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They could steal the Hand of Darkness, which Abaddon made a whole Black Crusade for and gave to Mortarion for him to join the 13th.

Edit: And now I see it's literally called "Hand of Darkness"

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Yes definitely connected to former BFG and EoT stories, Gavin Thorpe posted about it on his website

Also includes hints where the new audio books take place

Audio Week 2017 – Author’s Notes

By Gav on April 17, 2017

People often ask me if, when writing for Black Library, I get to choose what I write or not. The answer is, of course, not a straightforward one, because I’m working in someone else’s universe, and I have ongoing discussions with the editors about all sorts of things.

Usually it’s a case of Black Library asking if I would like to write about X, or that they are putting together a series about Y. The exact content isn’t defined beyond that. For example, the Legacy of Caliban series came about because there was an opportunity to release a novel alongside a new iteration of Codex: Dark Angels. Other than involving the Sons of the Lion, it was an open brief.

Other times there have been well-defined parameters to follow, particularly regarding stories and books tied in to a wider narrative. The most obvious of these are the Horus Heresy and the Beast Arises, but it was also true for The Curse of Khaine (part of the End Times narrative) and Warbeast (as an instalment for the Realmgate Wars).

These latter types of tie-ins can be quite taxing, because there’s usually a lot of stuff to absorb and trying to find an angle for a novel that presents something different to the pages and pages of background already published is a challenge. Put simply, if someone is already telling a story, it’s hard to take part of it and turn it into a different story…

So it was with a bit of anxiety that I agreed to write two audios that used the Warhammer 40,000 Gathering Storm narrative as a springboard. On the other hand, I love writing audio, and taking part in a week dedicated to the medium would certainly not hurt my sales numbers. Added to that, a lot of the rumours around the new storyline were quite tempting.

As it turned out, what was required was not a story set within the Gathering Storm storyline, but in the aftermath, the Warhammer 40,000 universe as it now stands after the great upheavals. While there was still a lot to take in, it meant that the big three books of lore had become backstory, not narrative, and that made it far easier to come up with a fresh tale (or two).


Two-for-One

The commission was, in theory, a simple one: Two stories deriving from the Gathering Storm, one focussed on the Imperium and the other on the eldar characters. It got a little more complicated, because the two audio dramas would be split into three segments, so each had to be a satisfying chunk of story but also part of the longer narrative.

Oh, and if they could be linked together somehow, that would be awesome. And if you could get Roboute Guilliman into both, that’s bonus points…

The main characters were set by the established background – Inquisitor Greyfax and Yvraine of the Ynnari. Finding a thematic link was the issue, but it was there that my long history with the Warhammer 40,000 universe came in very handy.

You see, I was there the day that Horus slew the Emperor…

Sorry, no, I wasn’t. That’s a different thing. I’ll start again.

I was there the day Abaddon launched his 13th Black Crusade, the first time around. Well, some of the build up to it. We hadn’t conceived of the Eye of Terror worldwide campaign then, as such, which has gone on to be revisited tangentially to form the basis of the Gathering Storm events, but we started laying groundwork for it in the background material for Battlefleet Gothic. It was basically a reason for why Abaddon, thrice-cursed, Despoiler of Worlds and arch-villain was knocking around the Gothic sector rather than laying waste to Terra and the Imperium. And the reason was that in order to muster the forces he needed, to make the necessary diabolic pacts, he needed to fulfil a prophecy (yes, one of them) by claiming the Hand of Darkness and the Eye of Night.

Which he did, of course, and here we are with the 13th Black Crusade well underway. And the observant among you may have noticed the two titles of my new audio dramas – the Hand of Darkness and the Eye of Night. What a co-ink-ee-dink.

Going back to the older material gives everything a nice sense of continuity. With the Gothic War and Abaddon as the common factor, the two artefacts gave me a thematic link while allowing two very separate tales to unfold.



Pushing the Sounds

I’ve mentioned before that using the audio part of ‘audio drama’ is not only essential, but also great fun. This was one of the major considerations for me with these two stories. Being released as part of audio week, they had to showcase what is best about the medium. In terms of sound effects it was a case of going big and going often.

Part of that is thinking about the structure of the scenes and where the story takes place. If I can make sure the plot takes us to sonically interesting settings (a phrase I didn’t envisage I would type when I woke up this morning) then I’m halfway there.

With Eye of Night the scenes take in the Imperial Palace, the near-airless remains of a world destroyed by Abaddon’s Planet Killer, a swamp in the Eye of Terror and a fortress of Tzeentch. Hand of Darkness gives us scenes of psychic communion, the webway and Black Library, the actual Garden of Nurgle and a plague fortress in the Eye of Terror.

Another area ripe for exploitation was that of psychic effects. In prose we often italicise psychic communication, or do other funky stuff to indicate daemonic speech and so forth. In audio this extra dimension opens up a brand new soundscape, and as both Greyfax and Yvraine are psykers it was a grand opportunity to see what we could do in that direction.


Script Over Prose

One last thing that made this a very enjoyable project was Black Library’s decision to have audio dramas submitted in scripted format again. For a while I have been writing in prose, as requested by the editors, so that the stories can be used in anthologies and so forth. This makes things more difficult, as it is hard to make the written word ideal for audio and reading at the same time.

A simple example is describing a noise. In usual prose, I might describe the crash of a slamming door resounding down the corridor. In audio, the narration might mention the door slamming, but the design should be used to convey the actual sound of that. So, do I write it for prose and hope the editors tweak the words to avoid the repetition, or write for audio and leave it a little sparse for readers?

Working in the script format also forces the writer to think more about sound direction, scene length and so forth, making it easier to see if the narration is going on too long, if nothing interesting has happened with the sound for a while, etc.

With each audio drama I write I feel that I am exploring new ground but also bedding in acquired knowledge allowing me to push the format each time. Expect to see plenty more audio work from me in the future. I have just finished another with pointy-eared characters at the fore, the start of a series hopefully, and I had some great fun with that, but you’ll have to wait to find out more.


Part One of Eye of Night is available to download right now, and you can subscribe to both Eye of Night and Hand of Darkness over on the Black Library website.

https://gavthorpe.co.uk/2017/04/17/audio-week-2017-authors-notes/


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Chikout wrote:
 pizzaguardian wrote:
Isn't May month preorders coming up on 29th? so like not this weekend bu the next?

The 29th is more AOS stuff. Next's months white dwarf is out a week later than usual on May 5th The magazine usually launches alongside preorders for a new range, so if death guard is the next big release we will see their preorders on the 6th.
If GW follows their recent trend of doing previews before blurry white dwarf pics show up, we will see something next week on the community site.


Urgh I always get the WD week wrong.

Can't it come out when i'm still off work?


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Maybe DG will come out in July - seventh month for the seventh legion haha no GW those are Imperial Fists, you meant that 7 is Nurgle's number.

   
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The Hand of Darkness Part 3 Audio is out now, gonna give it a listen and see if there are any hints. Sure hope so. Anyone else listened to it yet?

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Anyone able to give a summary of what happened in the third audio book? Anything that sounds like it's hinting at something new?
   
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 unmercifulconker wrote:
The Hand of Darkness Part 3 Audio is out now, gonna give it a listen and see if there are any hints. Sure hope so. Anyone else listened to it yet?


I've only listened to the first part so far, but HO BOY is it getting me pumped for Death Guard!

Spoiler:
Tigurius's description of Mortarion's assault on Ultramar is incredible!


Going to listen to the rest right away!
   
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Are we expecting reboxing/repackaging of Nurgly daemons to support this release? Any thoughts?
   
 
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