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This one is literally the same as what's on the tin, so to speak.

I want to know who you would rather field in games that aren't Zone Mortalis. Your Primarch, or a Super Heavy like a Typhon.

If you would rather sub something else for the Typhon feel free to write in what you would prefer, but the idea is to have something that fits 2,500 and 3,000 point scaleable lists.

In a more casual game, Guilliman will march to war.

In a competitive game, my Typhon will vaporize units sitting on objectives/troops, tyvm.

What Legion are you running?
As it depends on your Legion and the level of competetiveness.

The Typhon is a very 'no fun here' tank as it will remove anything you turn the cannon towards.
Then you can ram things with it.

Primarchs are considerably 'more fun' to play with and against because they provide table-wide buffs and a slightly more interesting play-style than just 'pulverise unit X, repeat as necessary'.

DaemonJellybaby wrote:
What Legion are you running?
As it depends on your Legion and the level of competetiveness.

The Typhon is a very 'no fun here' tank as it will remove anything you turn the cannon towards.
Then you can ram things with it.

Primarchs are considerably 'more fun' to play with and against because they provide table-wide buffs and a slightly more interesting play-style than just 'pulverise unit X, repeat as necessary'.

I'm playing Salamanders...I'm just thinking about a suitable LOW that's not Vulkan when I need one...I keep heading back to the Typhon because it's points efficient to be honest.

The Typhon is a Super Heavy Tank of only AV 14 and 6 HP- and no flare shields or any other defensive mechanism. It's gun is very impressive, but short ranged. If you moved in the previous move phase it's only 24". The gun is not ordnance or barrage, and so will require line of sight. Being a Primary Weapon means if it shoots any other weapons, they are snap shots.

In actual, practical use, that 7" blast template will probably tag some of your own models at some point, and because it requires line of sight with that kind of short range, makes the tank vulnerable. In the early game, the Typhon will have a significant impact on the game. Mid to late game- with forces being so close together, I'm not sure I'd want to toss around a 7" Pie Plate of DOOOOM!

It's an interesting tank in that it has a 7" Pie Plate of DOOOM!, but that's really it. You're paying that 400 points for that gun. As a Lords of War choice, disregarding Primarchs for a moment, I can't help but think there are sexier choices, such as my favorite the Fellblade. The Primarchs though... depending on your Legion, they can bring a lot to the table. You can pretty much slot your Primarch into any army and boost it's effectiveness on the table. A tank like this? You have to build your army list around it, if that makes any sense.

You can make the Typhon work with the right Legion, army list and RoW. It's best feature is how cheap it is. A Primarch though- makes any army better.

 Tamwulf wrote:
The Typhon is a Super Heavy Tank of only AV 14 and 6 HP- and no flare shields or any other defensive mechanism. It's gun is very impressive, but short ranged. If you moved in the previous move phase it's only 24". The gun is not ordnance or barrage, and so will require line of sight. Being a Primary Weapon means if it shoots any other weapons, they are snap shots.

In actual, practical use, that 7" blast template will probably tag some of your own models at some point, and because it requires line of sight with that kind of short range, makes the tank vulnerable. In the early game, the Typhon will have a significant impact on the game. Mid to late game- with forces being so close together, I'm not sure I'd want to toss around a 7" Pie Plate of DOOOOM!

It's an interesting tank in that it has a 7" Pie Plate of DOOOM!, but that's really it. You're paying that 400 points for that gun. As a Lords of War choice, disregarding Primarchs for a moment, I can't help but think there are sexier choices, such as my favorite the Fellblade. The Primarchs though... depending on your Legion, they can bring a lot to the table. You can pretty much slot your Primarch into any army and boost it's effectiveness on the table. A tank like this? You have to build your army list around it, if that makes any sense.

You can make the Typhon work with the right Legion, army list and RoW. It's best feature is how cheap it is. A Primarch though- makes any army better.

Primary Weapon does not make the other weapons snap-fire, and I have no idea where you got the idea that it would.


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And the Stormsword is a better Typhon anyways, with better secondary weapons, a larger blast on its main gun, and more hull points.

Unless you want to bring 2, you could bring 2 typhons.

I will take Perturabo and 3 of his iron circle at that points level before a Typhon.

Unless I'm making a specific list around taking and delivering Fulgrim, then my go-to choice is the one superheavy I do have for my EC: The CHOOM-mobile!
Always need more CHOOM!

The Typhon is a solid choice for its points, but I would rather just take something more...imaginative.

A primarch may not be a mega pie plate of near certain death and pain but thru bring alot of buffs often to table and give you stratagems, abilities that can enehance a legions specality.

It would depend on the army as a whole which one is more benefits.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

Primary Weapon does not make the other weapons snap-fire, and I have no idea where you got the idea that it would.

Sorry, I was confusing Ordnance Weapons with Primary Weapons and all the other hodge podge of special rules that has pretty much bloated out 30K and 40K to the point where I (and many others I play with) constantly make rules mistakes. Also, wasn't it 5th or 6th edition (or even Apocalypse) where if you fired your Primary Weapon, you couldn't fire anything else?

You can't take two Typhons as they are a Lords of War choice of 1 model with no provision for a squadron.

 Tamwulf wrote:

 Unit1126PLL wrote:

Primary Weapon does not make the other weapons snap-fire, and I have no idea where you got the idea that it would.

Sorry, I was confusing Ordnance Weapons with Primary Weapons and all the other hodge podge of special rules that has pretty much bloated out 30K and 40K to the point where I (and many others I play with) constantly make rules mistakes. Also, wasn't it 5th or 6th edition (or even Apocalypse) where if you fired your Primary Weapon, you couldn't fire anything else?

You can't take two Typhons as they are a Lords of War choice of 1 model with no provision for a squadron.

You can take two Lords of War choices as a single War Machine Detachment because they have "8 or less" (in this case 6) hull points. A War Machine Detachment (0-2 vehicles) takes up a single Lord of War slot.

They do not have 9 or more hull points, meaning they're not Engines of Destruction, which are 0-1 per LOW slot.

Other: Stormsword. Because why take a Typhon when you can upgrade its gun to a 10" blast?