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pity you can only report on one thing on the report this project button.

Asterios wrote:
pity you can only report on one thing on the report this project button.

Unfortunately, I think Kickstarter has you on 'Ignore' now.

Also, what is wrong with <shift> key?

 Alpharius wrote:

Asterios wrote:
pity you can only report on one thing on the report this project button.

Unfortunately, I think Kickstarter has you on 'Ignore' now.

Also, what is wrong with <shift> key?

no when you go to the report this project button you can only send in one report on one item, I clicked the resale portion button which says it is against their policy to sell product put out by other companies.

So is that AMP (he is good) guy trolling Rogue Heroes by pretending to be an insane Palladium fan, or is he actually an insane Palladium fan?

 Bossk_Hogg wrote:
So is that AMP (he is good) guy trolling Rogue Heroes by pretending to be an insane Palladium fan, or is he actually an insane Palladium fan?

seems like a typical Palladium fan too me, who may have ties to PB.

Asterios wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

Asterios wrote:
pity you can only report on one thing on the report this project button.

Unfortunately, I think Kickstarter has you on 'Ignore' now.

Also, what is wrong with <shift> key?

no when you go to the report this project button you can only send in one report on one item, I clicked the resale portion button which says it is against their policy to sell product put out by other companies.

No, you misunderstand.

I am not kidding - given your history on Kickstarter, I'm not sure they're actually paying attention to anything you send them.

Oh, his trolling credentials seem pretty legit. His comedy is sort of a mixed bag, though. The Latin stuff kind of tickled me but some of the other stuff missed the mark. He needs to refine his act a little more because he has to stretch the AMP persona out for almost a month. I implore him not to use all his best material in the first week.

 Alpharius wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

Asterios wrote:
pity you can only report on one thing on the report this project button.

Unfortunately, I think Kickstarter has you on 'Ignore' now.

Also, what is wrong with <shift> key?

no when you go to the report this project button you can only send in one report on one item, I clicked the resale portion button which says it is against their policy to sell product put out by other companies.

No, you misunderstand.

I am not kidding - given your history on Kickstarter, I'm not sure they're actually paying attention to anything you send them.

oh they are, trust me they are.

That sounds vaguely like a certain legal tidal wave that was predicted, but never actually manifested.

At least, not in this reality.

What proof can you provide that they are indeed paying attention to you, other than to suspend your posting privileges for 6 months on their site?

Interesting... some time before launch Rogue Heroes did register in MI (I checked back in March and they didn't exist, at least below the hat)

And their corporate registration docs have nothing identifying who the principals are.
They were submitted & signed by an attorney and the only principal agent is the CT corporation- a process server in Plymouth.

Nothing to tell you if this is owned by Carmen or Kevin... or an unrelated company altogether, particularly considering the city difference.

 Alpharius wrote:
That sounds vaguely like a certain legal tidal wave that was predicted, but never actually manifested.

At least, not in this reality.

What proof can you provide that they are indeed paying attention to you, other than to suspend your posting privileges for 6 months on their site?

well got a message from them saying they are looking into it, so me thinks either:

A: they will close the project (most likely not)
or
B: they will have RH remove the add-on PB/PG stuff.

mind you i'm not the only one who sent in that type of report either.

They might, but their 'response' to you is also more likely than not a 'form letter'.

 Alpharius wrote:
They might, but their 'response' to you is also more likely than not a 'form letter'.

probably, but we shall see, their rules are pretty self explanatory on this, thou shalt not sell any other companies products, they are, case closed.

I wonder how much their KS funds will drop if/when the PB/PG stuff gets removed as add-ons.

I'm simply amazed how badly set-up this KS is. Open a LLC in the USA to avoid $CAN dollar flux (which hit the Heavy Gear KS by Dream Pod 9), but get hit by the US revenue agency because of it. Or, you could open a USD account and avoid the hassle.

No manufacturer lined up - that they can admit to. Almost zero add-ons lined up (come on, display at least 6 to start with). One piece minis that will 'retail' at GW prices. No game-play videos or reviews at campaign start.

Palladium should be sending thank-you letters to Ninja Division until the end of time for setting up their RTT KS if this is the best they can manage on their own.

 John Prins wrote:
I wonder how much their KS funds will drop if/when the PB/PG stuff gets removed as add-ons.

I'm simply amazed how badly set-up this KS is. Open a LLC in the USA to avoid $CAN dollar flux (which hit the Heavy Gear KS by Dream Pod 9), but get hit by the US revenue agency because of it. Or, you could open a USD account and avoid the hassle.

No manufacturer lined up - that they can admit to. Almost zero add-ons lined up (come on, display at least 6 to start with). One piece minis that will 'retail' at GW prices. No game-play videos or reviews at campaign start.

Palladium should be sending thank-you letters to Ninja Division until the end of time for setting up their RTT KS if this is the best they can manage on their own.

yeah not sure Carmen is aware of him getting hit with like 39% taxes in the US on what he funds for, or that the LLC will not protect him from paying taxes either, nor will bankruptcy

he might have been better off staying in Canada, since not so sure of their tax rate there.

also if the PB/PG stuff is removed they will lose a chunk of backers me thinks, since heard a few say they backed just for the PG add-ons and such.

Asterios wrote:
yeah not sure Carmen is aware of him getting hit with like 39% taxes in the US on what he funds for, or that the LLC will not protect him from paying taxes either, nor will bankruptcy

he might have been better off staying in Canada, since not so sure of their tax rate there.

also if the PB/PG stuff is removed they will lose a chunk of backers me thinks, since heard a few say they backed just for the PG add-ons and such.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/taxes/tax-season-2016-crowdfunding-1.3460787

In brief, the crowdsourced funds are taxable, but the rewards are business expenses*. The rate is 38%, which is still lower than the USA, take that for what you will.

(*) which opens shenanigans if you account for rewards at 'retail value' rather than 'cost'. I'm not an accountant, though.

 John Prins wrote:

Asterios wrote:
yeah not sure Carmen is aware of him getting hit with like 39% taxes in the US on what he funds for, or that the LLC will not protect him from paying taxes either, nor will bankruptcy

he might have been better off staying in Canada, since not so sure of their tax rate there.

also if the PB/PG stuff is removed they will lose a chunk of backers me thinks, since heard a few say they backed just for the PG add-ons and such.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/taxes/tax-season-2016-crowdfunding-1.3460787

In brief, the crowdsourced funds are taxable, but the rewards are business expenses*. The rate is 38%, which is still lower than the USA, take that for what you will.

(*) which opens shenanigans if you account for rewards at 'retail value' rather than 'cost'. I'm not an accountant, though.

wonders if Carmen has even talked to a CPA?

Asterios wrote:

wonders if Carmen has even talked to a CPA?

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An old guy at my church gave me the following advice: "In order to succeed, you need 3 things; a good lawyer, a good accountant, and a good banker." If you're starting a business without these 3 things, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

 John Prins wrote:

Asterios wrote:

wonders if Carmen has even talked to a CPA?

An old guy at my church gave me the following advice: "In order to succeed, you need 3 things; a good lawyer, a good accountant, and a good banker." If you're starting a business without these 3 things, you're shooting yourself in the foot.

yeah but something tells me Carmen has none of those or seriously lacking an Accountant, since the way this kickstarter was kicked off its haphazard, they are making things up as they go along and already let a couple of fires get out of control, also the "whiteknighters" who also happen to be on the credits of the game are not helping them either but costing them backers.

Well, signs point to his "friend" Kevin being near to charging him for another round of licensing.

Or just plain refusing to license it because Savage Rifts went smoothly enough that he was terribly embarrassed.

Merijeek wrote:
Well, signs point to his "friend" Kevin being near to charging him for another round of licensing.

Or just plain refusing to license it because Savage Rifts went smoothly enough that he was terribly embarrassed.

yeah between Kevin, KS and the IRS will Carmen have anything left?

I totally hold my lighter up for the backer suggesting Palladium funnel all remaining Robotech funds into the sinking ship that is the gRifts board game. Well played, sir, well played. Palladium might as well, after all, whether the $0.00 balance is in the Palladium account or Rogue Heroes' account makes little difference to me.

I'm pretty sure Carmen is looking pretty sour about Kevin's assurances that the Palladium fanfriends will EASILY hand over $100k. All he has to do is watch the money roll in, then he can quit his 9-5, rest easy on the funds for a year, then start making nebulous updates when the comment section gets hot.

I think between licensing, taxes, and general mismanagement in anticipating overheads Carmen will find the real stress isn't the comments section but rather trying to juggle the finances because he's in a position where those slices of the pie are going to be pretty mean and leave him potentially starving.

It's sad to see Kevin forcing so much stress on Carmen. I also feel bad for Carmen being stuck with a support chain that runs business as if it's still 1986 and is completely unprepared to help him get through something modern like Kickstarter. As long as he has been working on the game you'd think they all would have researched other successful board game kickstarters rather than just assuming the Rifts IP was worth big dollars.

Seems most of the fanfriends trying to quell the burning questions with gasoline are also operating as if these blundering and sputtering business practices are how EVERY kickstarter does it. They keep saying they NEVER have heard of kickstarters doing this or that and then when given examples just bulldoze through that BESIDES those just listed they have never heard of this poppycock the 'trolls' are bringing up. Call in Steve McQueen this went from a dumpster fire to a towering inferno.

all the issues Carmen can expect if his game funds:

http://pixygamesuk.blogspot.com/2016/12/board-game-manufacturing-production_4.html

But... That's a UK site! What do they know about making games in the good old USA errr.... I mean Canada! This may apply to British or even EU games development but I fail to see how it has any bearing on making games in North America.

Actually that is a very good primer on what basic wrinkles in development are presented in manufacture of a board game. As is, I can't help but feel Palladium/Rogue Heroes would be completely dumbfounded by that information as they never thought about any of that.

 TwoGunBob wrote:
But... That's a UK site! What do they know about making games in the good old USA errr.... I mean Canada! This may apply to British or even EU games development but I fail to see how it has any bearing on making games in North America.

Actually that is a very good primer on what basic wrinkles in development are presented in manufacture of a board game. As is, I can't help but feel Palladium/Rogue Heroes would be completely dumbfounded by that information as they never thought about any of that.

the way i'm seeing this project go i'm fairly certain it is mostly alien to them.

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Is that in regards to Shift Keys?

I'd say board game development in general is alien to them. I mean , it seems most of their collective research was into making the terms of service bulletproof to all the bone headed, backer angering shenanigans that Palladium pulled. We can sell at conventions before backers, we can sell to the public before shipping to backers, we can make exclusives available to the public but not backers, we can change anything we want.

Basically it's a list of backer unfriendly terms that should leave anyone asking, "Why should I give them money now when I can buy it before backers at a convention or possibly at 20% of MSRP at an online retailer?"

Seems Palladium's guiding hand was a heavy one in making sure they could point to terms and services when they start being hostile to the backers. There's nothing to foster any reason to back this project other than you think Carmen is just one cool dude that should be able to quit his 9-5 to design games.

No incentives, no answers, general bone headed handling of questions with lots of answers creepily similar to Palladium POST-KS answers. Compounded with Palladium shills trying to shout down anyone asking questions and pretending the 'veil of mystery' is the way ALL kickstarters are run.

 TwoGunBob wrote:
"Why should I give them money now when I can buy it before backers at a convention or possibly at 20% of MSRP at an online retailer?"

More like: "Why should I risk fronting money to a known failed project team, when I can eventually buy under half price and zero risk from Miniature Market, assuming the game isn't terrible?"

 JohnHwangDD wrote:

 TwoGunBob wrote:
"Why should I give them money now when I can buy it before backers at a convention or possibly at 20% of MSRP at an online retailer?"

More like: "Why should I risk fronting money to a known failed project team, when I can eventually buy under half price and zero risk from Miniature Market, assuming the game isn't terrible?"

or if it funds even.