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2017/05/06 21:22:49
Subject: Full Chapters or any ridiculously large army. IG Regiments, Craftworld Armies, so on!
Anyone here have a full space marine chapter assembled and painted? And about how much did this cost? I am embarking on this quest right now, working on Chapter history, rosters, so on. If you have one, perhaps an imgur link to pictures aswell as some of your backgrounds!
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Well I mean, a standard chapter is what, 100 terminators, 440 Tactical marines, 180 Devastator Marines, and 180 Assault Marines, + say 100 scouts I guess? So...
20 x 60 is 1200
44 x 50 is 2200
36 x 55 is 1980
36 x 49 is 1764
20 x 30 is 600
so $7,744 (not counting tax) assuming you're starting from scratch just for your infantry. Drop pods and rhinos and land raiders for every squad would add $4,475 (again no tax), and say you go with only two land raiders cause they're rare and I doubt any chapter is gonna have 20 of them, and that's $178 for a total of $12,397 and you could probably save anywhere from 25% to 15% buying from not GW. Check my math of course I'm pretty bad at it, I curious how much it would actually cost myself now XD
Of course this doesn't account for dreadnoughts or independent characters (chaplains, librarians and the like).
My suggestion is your chapter is on its last leg and struggling to survive
So you are looking at $6492 before transports, Dreadnoughts, Command Squads, the Chapter Master, any of the battle tanks or flyers, etc. That number could easily double or triple with those added in...so yeah. It wouldn't be cheap.
Edit: How did we get different numbers?
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You could probably save some money on the tacticals with some of the big boxes of like Mk. IV marines. Those I think come in at a little less than the Tactical boxes, but I don't know if you can get them from anyone but GW.
Well, this is a longterm plan. I vaguely remember GW selling he entire smurf chapter on their site. I have just recently began, but I have prepared myself for the long game. I average about 1.5x tactical squads a month, and this is being VERY generous. Considering I got a kid due in a few weeks aswell as life stuff. I hope to maybe be done by the time I am 40 lol
I'll be honest...it's rather a silly project, because you'll never get to actually use it all. It'll just be for geek-fist-pounds on the internet and maybe a feature on a few internet forums/websites and facebook pages. That's a HELL of a lot of time and money for a non-practical project.
I'm all for geeky extravagance but this is just a financially silly thing to do. The worst case scenario is that you realize this 1/3 or worse 1/2 or even 3/4s of the way through and then you're left with a HUGE pile of plastic (and if you don't paint well you won't even make money back selling them off).
There's cool and extravagant...and then there's poor ideas. This screams the latter.
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Elbows wrote: I'll be honest...it's rather a silly project, because you'll never get to actually use it all. It'll just be for geek-fist-pounds on the internet and maybe a feature on a few internet forums/websites and facebook pages. That's a HELL of a lot of time and money for a non-practical project.
Yeah. I mean, I bought my Warlord Titan knowing full well that thing probably wouldn't see play. It is perfectly convenient next to a full chapter, though (as well as being pocket change next to that kind of money.)
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I mean, sure it isn't a great idea. Then again, look at all the people who have 5k of every army. Or really anything more than a few thousand points of an army, unless they do Apoc, its really unnecessary. Like I said, this is my ongoing project for the next 10-20 years
I made a thread about this a few months ago. I think we came up with exactly one example of a complete chapter modelled and painted.
Hilariously we somehow got like 3 different complete IG regiments, which are not only larger than SM chapters but also far more costly.
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Full crimson fists or soul drinkers might be cheaper. Every chapter is not very often at any stage fill strength. There pretty low vs others.
That might be quite abit easier.
Full post beast imperial fists cheapest I can think of.
If your mad there's the full 6k strong old fluff Templers....
...
Better than me. Mixing armies if be lucky to pull two adhoc companies.
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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2017/05/07 00:11:55
Subject: Full Chapters or any ridiculously large army. IG Regiments, Craftworld Armies, so on!
jhe90 wrote: Full crimson fists or soul drinkers might be cheaper. Every chapter is not very often at any stage fill strength. There pretty low vs others.
That might be quite abit easier.
Full post beast imperial fists cheapest I can think of.
If your mad there's the full 6k strong old fluff Templers....
...
Better than me. Mixing armies if be lucky to pull two adhoc companies.
Crimson Fists would still run your somewhere in the ballpark of $7000 as the Chapter has roughly half strength, but vehicles are expensive. Soul Drinkers only have three members left. Celestial Lions only have about 100 left at this time.
I have about a full Company of Crimson Fists, but also about 30 First Company and 20 Tenth Company. And that had run me a lot.
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jhe90 wrote: ...Full post beast imperial fists cheapest I can think of...
If going for full on-paper strength Grey Knights might be a good option. Estimating from the org chart in the Codex you're looking at about $5,500 list price for 300 Terminators and 650 Marines before tax, figure another $4-5,000 for the motor pool, Dreadknights, and enough extra Terminator kits to build the characters and you've got the whole Chapter for $2,000-odd below LordOfHats' estimate for a Codex Chapter.
jhe90 wrote: Full crimson fists or soul drinkers might be cheaper. Every chapter is not very often at any stage fill strength. There pretty low vs others.
That might be quite abit easier.
Full post beast imperial fists cheapest I can think of.
If your mad there's the full 6k strong old fluff Templers....
...
Better than me. Mixing armies if be lucky to pull two adhoc companies.
Crimson Fists would still run your somewhere in the ballpark of $7000 as the Chapter has roughly half strength, but vehicles are expensive. Soul Drinkers only have three members left. Celestial Lions only have about 100 left at this time.
I have about a full Company of Crimson Fists, but also about 30 First Company and 20 Tenth Company. And that had run me a lot.
AnomanderRake wrote:
jhe90 wrote: ...Full post beast imperial fists cheapest I can think of...
If going for full on-paper strength Grey Knights might be a good option. Estimating from the org chart in the Codex you're looking at about $5,500 list price for 300 Terminators and 650 Marines before tax, figure another $4-5,000 for the motor pool, Dreadknights, and enough extra Terminator kits to build the characters and you've got the whole Chapter for $2,000-odd below LordOfHats' estimate for a Codex Chapter.
Lok how casual about armies costing as much as cars. Newish ones too!
Still not cheap for a comany yet alone a weak chapter.
The main cost is armour. Tanks from one -2 ish squads each.
You need 10 rhino/razor each company,or fkyers. Or pods.
Plus preads, vindi, dreads.
5k in plastic toy tanks.... Jesus lol
If you added thunder hawks and such even more insane.
Post beast imperial fists where cheapest... There was one...
You could make the would drinkers and fists from one decent box.
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Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
2017/05/07 00:36:35
Subject: Full Chapters or any ridiculously large army. IG Regiments, Craftworld Armies, so on!
I only know of this one.
Celestial Lions (Canberra, Australia).
AFAIK, he's doing the entire chapter, infantry included, and he has in excess of 1000 infantry to go with this stuff.
In the process of being unpacked. He's been out of country for work for a few years.
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Keep in mind that 'regiment' in the Guard can mean a lot of different things. We've seen org charts for armoured companies consisting of ten Russes (three squads of three plus a command vehicle), you could probably have an armoured 'regiment' with thirty, which at $1,500ish is almost certainly the cheapest thing you'll find on this page.
Speaking of org charts we've seen and Guard regiments my guess for the current state of Detachment D-99 (from the chart in IA4) would run to about 3,000 GBP for all the Forge World components and another $1,500 US for all the Valkyries. (Three under-strength companies of around fifty Guardsmen each, thirty-eight airplanes, twenty-two Tauroses, twelve Sentinels, an overall command section, Inquisitor Lok, and a few Cyclopses and Tarantulas.)
jhe90 wrote: ...Full post beast imperial fists cheapest I can think of...
If going for full on-paper strength Grey Knights might be a good option. Estimating from the org chart in the Codex you're looking at about $5,500 list price for 300 Terminators and 650 Marines before tax, figure another $4-5,000 for the motor pool, Dreadknights, and enough extra Terminator kits to build the characters and you've got the whole Chapter for $2,000-odd below LordOfHats' estimate for a Codex Chapter.
Lok how casual about armies costing as much as cars. Newish ones too!
Still not cheap for a comany yet alone a weak chapter.
The main cost is armour. Tanks from one -2 ish squads each.
You need 10 rhino/razor each company,or fkyers. Or pods.
Plus preads, vindi, dreads.
5k in plastic toy tanks.... Jesus lol
If you added thunder hawks and such even more insane.
Post beast imperial fists where cheapest... There was one...
You could make the would drinkers and fists from one decent box.
Crap, forgot Thunderhawks. Also this org chart may be incomplete, given that according to it the Grey Knights don't actually have any Razorbacks (and it lists 24 Rhinos for six hundred Marines, I know a lot of those are Interceptors or deploy by teleporting but I'd have guessed at least forty).
Estimating 3,000 GBP for the eight Thunderhawks on the charts, I don't have the price in front of me. Also at OOP Ebay prices you could probably accumulate the entire Grey Knight Chapter Fleet in BFG models for about $750 (twelve strike cruisers, four battle barges, and eight escorts), most Chapters have smaller fleets than that.
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Rysgame wrote: I figured and IG foot regiment would be dann near 3-5k guardsmen, no5 counting vehicles
There's usually a line in the Codex saying that a 'regiment' varies wildly in size; the current one is "...each regiment can consist of
between three and twenty companies, and may number from a couple of hundred men to tens of thousands..." Not sure if that contradicts Only War or other iterations of the Codex.
To my mind it's a question of primary function and point of origin; an airborne or Stormtrooper regiment, a scouting unit of some sort, an armoured/artillery regiment, etc. is going to be a lot smaller than a line infantry regiment, and if you get some sort of massed feral-worlder cannon-fodder infantry regiment it may start to grow ridiculous in its dimensions.
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Well...just looking at retail prices for just some of my troops, I have 2,544 in just Termagants, Hormagaunts, and Genestealers. And that isn't including all my warriors....
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2017/05/07 03:10:46
Subject: Re:Full Chapters or any ridiculously large army. IG Regiments, Craftworld Armies, so on!
My Space Marine collection is extravagent, but it tops out at 9000 points, 200 Marines, and a couple dozen vehicles. A lot of players in my area have similar sized collections, but I only know of one guy who is collecting an entire chapter. He has most of the infantry needed for the Dark Angels, and the majority of it is painted, but he doesn't have much of the support elements.
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2017/05/07 03:41:35
Subject: Full Chapters or any ridiculously large army. IG Regiments, Craftworld Armies, so on!
I love seeing big armies. Makes it feel like a real war. I intend to have a massive Tau and Dark Eldar army going against each other in a big desert battle.
I don't know if my army would be considered apocalypse tier at that point or not. Would that even be a fluffy size for a "full" hunter cadre the Tau would employ?
My DE army will be big enough to match. I don't know if I want to do DE, Necrons, or a combined IoM army battle scene. However given how long this project will take I got time.
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2017/05/07 03:45:15
Subject: Full Chapters or any ridiculously large army. IG Regiments, Craftworld Armies, so on!
Gamgee wrote: I love seeing big armies. Makes it feel like a real war. I intend to have a massive Tau and Dark Eldar army going against each other in a big desert battle.
I don't know if my army would be considered apocalypse tier at that point or not. Would that even be a fluffy size for a "full" hunter cadre the Tau would employ?
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