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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter







Adapt. The way I did when my Eldar became OP. Contrary to the bile folks like Martel and Traditio insist on spouting your codex does not make you an donkey-cave. If you were an donkey-cave already your Codex may give you new and exciting avenues to explore that facet of your personality, but normal people have the power and the inclination to relax and play suboptimal lists out of the badly-designed book so people in general keep having fun.

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I'd buy some less powerful models, so that way I have options on toning down my list.

I'd also let people know that my army is really damn powerful, so they bring their best lists to face against it.

Clocks for the clockmaker! Cogs for the cog throne! 
   
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo




Crush the tau and eldar over and over as their karmic payback. To quote Delenn, "No mercy"

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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter







Martel732 wrote:
Crush the tau and eldar over and over as their karmic payback. To quote Delenn, "No mercy"


See? Exactly this kind of bile.

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Locked in the Tower of Amareo




I didn't say my opponents were jerks. But tau and eldar factions are owed five years of beatdowns, if possible. I'm not holding my breath, though.

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Made in us
Clousseau




Yeah all signs point to them still being pretty potent in the new edition.
   
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo




I am also by no means expecting ba to be op in 8th.
   
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Bonkers Buggy Driver with Rockets






If my army was OP I'd probably ask to play using a mission that handicaps my force to make things more fair. Unless it was a tourney.

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Clousseau





East Bay, Ca, US

Martel732 wrote:
I am also by no means expecting ba to be op in 8th.


I would say BA are going to be really solid in 8e.

Assault will be the best way to kill things.

 Galas wrote:
I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you

Bharring wrote:
He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic.
 
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

My army will continue be made of a solid core of Eldar jetbikes. the only thing that will change is what they are equipped with. In 7th, I often mixed my units because I like the Shuricannon better, but liked having 1 Scatter laser in each unit. In tourneys I would take more or even all Scatters, but that was because it is a tourney.

In 8th, I think Shuricannons might actually be better given what we know so far and what is likely. But I play Eldar with Bikes. That is my army and has been since 4th ed.

I may also add in units that I own but haven't played in 7th, like Fire Prisms or Scorpions, but that will depend if they fill a role. I always took a WK in 7th because they filled several roles that no other unit could. With vehicles having wounds now, I'll be glad to be less reliant on the WK, although I will still likely play it cause it is a cool model.

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Clousseau





East Bay, Ca, US

Galef I'd like to play a casual game against you some time. Would be fun.

 Galas wrote:
I remember when Marmatag was a nooby, all shiney and full of joy. How playing the unbalanced mess of Warhammer40k in a ultra-competitive meta has changed you

Bharring wrote:
He'll actually *change his mind* in the presence of sufficient/sufficiently defended information. Heretic.
 
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

 Marmatag wrote:
Galef I'd like to play a casual game against you some time. Would be fun.

Thanks. I'm not having fun unless my opponent is too. I like to be competitive for tourneys, but casual games should be for fun, not to win.

   
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Monster-Slaying Daemonhunter





If Imperial Guard or Sisters suddenly becomes OP, and the elements making them OP are elements I have, I will revel in my OP-ness against the people who currently bring the OSC and Riptide Wing and more than one Wraithknight, and the rest of the time keep playing as I do now with what I have.

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Regular Dakkanaut





I've always been a narrative kind of guy. My guard has always been a huge horde and interestingly I've always loved sentinels. Emperor's talon formation came out and I already owned it which was cool even though it sucked. Now those things look like they might actually be strong, strangely so does mixing weapons loadouts within my my sentinels. I also had stupid units like ogryins and deathstrike missile launchers. Curious how my deathstrike will be handled.

Point is if all of that becomes op then I will play more narrative oriented, put a hq charector on the front lines or something along those lines.

Aldo the new approach to resurves plays with this. If it's points instead of units you reserve it could be the difference between bringing a second horde in on turn 2/3 and bringing a baneblade.I really hope this is how it plays out so you can tone your army/list up or down while in game
   
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos




Phoenix, Arizona

Same thing I've always done - continue to play them. My three armies have all had their time in the limelight, as well as their time at the bottom of the barrel. And I played them no matter what. In 4th-5th ed my CSM & Tau were mediocre at best and my GK shined (near the end when they got their new 'dex). 3rd ed my CSM stomped everything they saw. Now my Tau are a powerhouse. Through it all, I avoided the worst offenders of cheese, but still played the units I liked. The balance pendulum has always had wild swings, sometimes taking one of my armies to the top, other times taking them to the bottom. So I will ride this storm out, as I have all the others.

Sometimes, the only truth people understand, comes from the barrel of a gun.
 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut




Atlanta

If my Ravenwing list became OP, I'd continue using it. I'd wreck face, drink tears and tell people to man up and try and knock me down. Dark Angels are the only army I own and anyone who knows me knows I love my bikes. I didnt feel bad when I got my but kicked in 6th Ed, and I don't feel bad with 2+ rerollable jink save in 7th. I only tone down my lists for the newest of new players but my gaming group is pretty competitive
   
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The same thing anyone not made of a bag of genitalia did before?

In 7th I play some of the best and the worst factions in terms of upper power level (craftworlds and blood angels) and it's really all about fitting it to the situation. If someone wants a high power game I just can't play my blood angels and if I'm playing a newbie I've got to be really fething careful about what I put on the table if I've got my craftworld force with me.

It'll be the same principle in 8th when looking for a good game, think about the context, talk to your opponent. If they're set on bringing the 8th Ed. equivalent of tacs with ML and sternguard spam either a) violate them for bringing that to a competitive environment or B) say "I think I'll need to tone my list down, what do you think? Cool with you if I change my list, here, what do you think?"
   
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion





if my army was OP, I';d shrug note maybe I could play that list too, and go back to playing with my sub optimal list. let's be honest the odds of anyone lucking into the OP kill everything list, with just a generic fopr fun list is pretty small.

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Been Around the Block




Vacaville, California

Martel732 wrote:
Crush the tau and eldar over and over as their karmic payback. To quote Delenn, "No mercy"


Exactly sweep the leg.

Babylon a mosh up the sea and fear him the Rasta mon. 
   
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Regular Dakkanaut






Interesting proposition. I "discovered" rhino spam with berserkers in third because I noticed the more rhinos I had, the better I tended to do. Eventually I was buying more rhinos and more berserkers and mopping the floor with people. I ended up switching to wolves, which allowed for a more tactically balanced playstyle.

I plan on doing vanilla marines or wolves in 8th--vanilla because I just want to regain a sense of my first real army, and wolves because I have always loved them (one my first purchases was SW termies--metal, 2nd edition).

If the vanilla marines or wolves are OP, well, I might try the other one, but it's not too serious. OP armies are fine if you don't take a list like a dick.

-three orange whips 
   
 
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