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 flamingkillamajig wrote:

Just be glad GW didn't squat your setting like WHF. They also squatted tomb kings and bretonnia (poor players).

Those 'poor' players had plastic minis for years and years, something Sisters never got. They had multiple, proper codexes.

I don't know how sisters managed to hold on. It doesn't seem that anyone at GW has any great love for them, but it does seem that the fan base has a great deal of love for them.

Galas wrote:
That hasn't been a problem to Genestealer Cult. Is disingenuos to compare a faction so abandoned by the company to other armies. New armies sell well if they have good sculpts and are reasonable priced.
See Deathwatch, see Kharadron Overlords or Sylvaneth, Cult Mechanicus/Skitarii, etc...
Not every army has to sell like Space Marines to give profits to GW.

ERJAK wrote:

Yeah, take every poll of 'favorite faction' before deathwatch overkill came out and see where genestealer cults came in and the number of people buying genestealer cult models at that time and then tell everyone that plays genestealers NOW that your data says that no one would buy that army.

Sisters of battle have so many things going against them(terrible support, 20 year old sculpts, terrible rules, limited diversity, obscenely expensive models, being stuck in stupid goddam pewter, arguably the worst representation of any faction fluff wise in terms of both quantity of background and constantly using them as less than cannon fodder, being an all female army in a hobby that is 97% male, etc) that the fact that they sell ANY models is truly nuts.

Not to mention the incredibly circumstantial evidence that the only 2 Sisters releases in 20yrs (canoness and Celestine) Both sold out in prerelease and that the resin canoness has sold out about every 3 days for months now.

Would they be the most popular army ever? No, absolutely not. Would they compete pretty well with DE, Harlies, GK, DW, Nids and all of the other niche armies that aren't tau, eldar, space marines, orks or chaos? Absolutely they could if they were given half decent plastics with goodish rules they could easily be a middle of the table army sales-wise.

Hey, I don't make the calls at GW. I'm just commenting on the only information I have to go on. I've also never once seen a SoB army in person in 20 years being involved with 40k on and off, though that's anecdotal.

No doubt it's a shame that GW has all but abandoned SoB. When I think about 40k, they are one of the most iconic factions that comes to mind. I still go back and play Dawn of War: Soulstorm and they're my favorite faction in the game. I've always wanted to start an army, but I don't even remember seeing them in a store!

 Luciferian wrote:


Hey, I don't make the calls at GW. I'm just commenting on the only information I have to go on. I've also never once seen a SoB army in person in 20 years being involved with 40k on and off, though that's anecdotal.

No doubt it's a shame that GW has all but abandoned SoB. When I think about 40k, they are one of the most iconic factions that comes to mind. I still go back and play Dawn of War: Soulstorm and they're my favorite faction in the game. I've always wanted to start an army, but I don't even remember seeing them in a store!

I've seen one other. I also know that there are at least three of us in town, because there was another one in a local tourney. We exist, somewhere, it seems. But we also seem disproportionately represented on the internet, or at least disproportionately vocal on the internet.

Our models are only available online. Mild inconvenience, but they're expensive enough to clear the free shipping quota every time.

SoB are one of my favourite armies in the 40k universe by far. However, I did vote no :(

1. I have a pretty large SoB army atm and only want a few more things (The rest is just conversions I am doing to add to it like SoB baneblade etc).

2. If they do come out with plastic SoB they will prob be different in looks etc to the metal ones (updated). So why would I bother, I don't want my squads to look different etc and I like the metal sculpts.

3. I like the challenge of converting metal mini's (e.g. making different combi options etc).

There's three SoB armies in my area. Lots of people probably haven't been using them because they won't place well in tournaments. That and how expensive the models are. Some are hard to get a hold of too.

Lot depends on a) how they look b) what's the pricing.

 Luciferian wrote:

Galas wrote:
That hasn't been a problem to Genestealer Cult. Is disingenuos to compare a faction so abandoned by the company to other armies. New armies sell well if they have good sculpts and are reasonable priced.
See Deathwatch, see Kharadron Overlords or Sylvaneth, Cult Mechanicus/Skitarii, etc...
Not every army has to sell like Space Marines to give profits to GW.

ERJAK wrote:

Yeah, take every poll of 'favorite faction' before deathwatch overkill came out and see where genestealer cults came in and the number of people buying genestealer cult models at that time and then tell everyone that plays genestealers NOW that your data says that no one would buy that army.

Sisters of battle have so many things going against them(terrible support, 20 year old sculpts, terrible rules, limited diversity, obscenely expensive models, being stuck in stupid goddam pewter, arguably the worst representation of any faction fluff wise in terms of both quantity of background and constantly using them as less than cannon fodder, being an all female army in a hobby that is 97% male, etc) that the fact that they sell ANY models is truly nuts.

Not to mention the incredibly circumstantial evidence that the only 2 Sisters releases in 20yrs (canoness and Celestine) Both sold out in prerelease and that the resin canoness has sold out about every 3 days for months now.

Would they be the most popular army ever? No, absolutely not. Would they compete pretty well with DE, Harlies, GK, DW, Nids and all of the other niche armies that aren't tau, eldar, space marines, orks or chaos? Absolutely they could if they were given half decent plastics with goodish rules they could easily be a middle of the table army sales-wise.

Hey, I don't make the calls at GW. I'm just commenting on the only information I have to go on. I've also never once seen a SoB army in person in 20 years being involved with 40k on and off, though that's anecdotal.

No doubt it's a shame that GW has all but abandoned SoB. When I think about 40k, they are one of the most iconic factions that comes to mind. I still go back and play Dawn of War: Soulstorm and they're my favorite faction in the game. I've always wanted to start an army, but I don't even remember seeing them in a store!

It is on the record that the number one player in the ITC was, for a few weeks, playing Adepta Soriritas as the start of the season.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
There's not many of us, but we're fairly vocal because our army has been neglected for quite some time.

I, for one, would have like to have an actual print codex [again], like every other army, instead of a White Dwarf article, E-book, then small section of a book dedicated to providing a small selection of "background" Imperial organizations. Look, the f****** STORMTROOPERS got their own book, hardcover and all, and they're a single d*** Elites choice for the Imperial Guard. If you can print a hardcover book for the Stormtroopers and their 4 different unit options, you can print a book for us, we have at least twice as many different units and ten times more fluff.

I actually really like the metal figures, though. They're just expensive. Of course, I wouldn't pass up the opportunity to triple the size of my army for the same amount I've already spent.


I do wonder how many people would buy plastic Sisters, though. Those of us who currently play Sisters have a fair amount of things as is, and while we'd definitely buy more figures if they came out in plastic, there aren't that many of us and there's a point where you'd have more things than you know what to do with. So the question really is "how many new players would pick up the army?", and I don't think that number is actually all that high. GW probably is better served by making more Space Marines, or Tauroxes nobody asked for, or overpowered Tau battlesuits.

You're poll probably isn't accurate, though, since only people who really care will bother responding to it. IE: those of us who currently play Sisters, those who would play Sisters but balk at the $100/squad price, and those who hate our army and/or want to harass those of us who like it.

100 USD for a squad makes you sound like you're super rich, hate yourself or both. May as well be forgeworld prices at that point.

Just be glad GW didn't squat your setting like WHF. They also squatted tomb kings and bretonnia (poor players). Bretonnia hadn't been updated in years. I played skaven and they weren't updated since 2008 or so and the game died in 2015 so about 7 years with an 8 page FAQ that didn't answer all problems. I don't quite know your pain army-wise but at least your setting remains intact enough that you can play another faction and not just be super pissed at what they did to your game making it super hard to play a game that you enjoyed. Seriously i can't even play WHFB in the local GW store. They actively won't allow it. Hell they actively treat that portion of the player base like ****. GW are ****s.

I don't play guard anymore but the tauroxes looked cool. I also would've wanted to make a stormtrooper army but there's only 2 or 3 units so it's not legit. I do dark eldar now and we kinda suck but at least the FAQ was under control and you could do ok if you didn't play one of the OP factions like tau, eldar or maybe marines with a formation.

While i do feel bad for you and other more normal Sisters players there's generally a bunch of Sisters players lately i have a hard time feeling bad for. There's a bunch of extreme people that like Sisters and more just the fact that they're all female rather than the whole theme of religious nuns.

I am neither rich nor do I hate myself, and $100 is a bit of an exaggeration. Currently, it costs $80 for 1 Superior, 1 Simulacrum, 1 Meltagun, 1 Storm Bolter, and 6 regular Sisters. Then, it costs $10 per additional special weapon so you can replace the Meltagun and Storm Bolter with Flamers or an extra Meltagun. A minimum squad is actually 5 models though, and if you buy the pack of 5 regular Sisters for $35, 4 special weapons, and 2 Superiors, you come up to $50 per 5-girl minimum-size squad [and you're going to also want a $40 transport tank for every squad you have, but that's besides the point, because the 10-girl squad would also like a $40 transport]. I am informed that this is not unreasonable considering the price of pewter, and am willing to pay this, but would also appreciate plastic figures who don't cost so much.

I play Guard, and I hate Tauroxes. First off, Chimerae were plenty good. They were everything I could ask for in an IFV, and with Forgeworld they could have an Autocannon. Then comes the Taurox. It's ugly as all hell, and most importantly, it's blantant power creep. GW didn't try to hide the fact that it was supposed to be better than the Chimera. It got up-gunned, with a TL Autocannon over our Multilaser and Heavy Bolter, replaced Amphibious with an actually useful special rule, and, at the same time, the Chimera was nerfed [lost 3 fire points] and increased in points cost by ten points so the Taurox would be 15 points cheaper. I might be inclined to like the Taurox more if it was an M3 Halftrack instead of whatever the hell that 4-tracked monstrosity is.

Now, I'm not sure how to respond to your last statement, because I'm not sure exactly who your vitrol is directed at, but I will say that if my army wasn't both all female and an order of otherwise ordinary people who, though unshakable blind faith and an unhealthy cult of martyrdom, equal and exceed the capabilities of genetically engineered killing machines, [and didn't have by far the prettiest models of GW's entire line up], I might not be playing this army. At the very least, I wouldn't like it if we wore chainmail bikinis.

Those costs are still way too much.

Eh everybody has different tastes. I'm just saying i personally don't mind the taurox. I like the very death squad feel of the vehicle. Makes it feel elite and goes with the doom and gloom of the universe. Also we're talking about GW who kind of hates a lot of their player bases (WHFB, dark eldar, sisters players, squats, dogs of war and others).

Well it's a hard thing to really say but it's only gotten worse with the current political trend. I don't want to get this way off topic or starting an argument but there are some Feminists that take Sisters a little too far. I don't mind girls in the imperial guard but i find some groups just want all girls for the sake of having all girls (i can understand this one more because of all the guy factions but i don't see many girl players at the local store) or worse with a girls are better than boys attitude (though that's much rarer). I never liked marines myself with maybe dark angels being an exception and i did like grey knights and death watch a bit too but i don't think i'd dip into the marine armies. As far as best looking army for the moment i still think dark eldar have a really nice aesthetic for 40k. Shame they're so fragile to transport around in a case.

I think Sisters could be done well if they had a proper update. This isn't just plastic sisters but more units. Even back years ago i was hoping they could at least get artificer armor wearing sisters and perhaps some refractor field or rosarius ones esp. for those chainsaw bdsm girls. As i said i still feel bad for Sister's players. We all know they deserve better. I think chaos players were oddly more bitter though.

I've never been a fan of giving sisters marine-esque things like terminator armour and their equivalents. Even just thinking about it now makes me cringe. These sisters are set apart from marines and giving them marine tools beyond what they already have now would only serve to further the slanderous misconception that they're just gal marines. I shall forego the desire to burst into anti marine rant and just summarise it as sisters have got a lot more flavour than most people give them credit for.

They're not just psychotic murder hobo nuns with guns. GW spends so much time pointlessly red-shirting these girls that we don't get to see them shine. Sisters have a massive humanitarian side- pilgrim protection, humanitarian support, heck even baby kissing; the sisters inspire awe and wonder and hope- their very presence is the embodiment of faith that inspires the most downtrodden to hope and the most hardened criminals to repentance.
Marines by comparison just wreck **** and then **** off.
While marines are emptily screaming "for the emperor", the sisters know believe whole geartedly what they shout and pray and say. These are women so into their theology, they can go toe to toe with a word bearer in both a battle of might and words. Their arguments aren't just " big Es da boss cuz I sez" each one is able to sit you down and eloquently explain every facet of their faith without needing to purge you because you're going to be falling on your face 10 minutes into the conversation begging the emperor's favour.

Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, new sisters need to keep the church look ramped up to 11. I don't think it's a matter of needing more new toys like marines keep getting, but the ability to have multiple strategies available to them. I use the dominion squad as an example.
Pre 7th...or was it 6th? On of the two, this squad didn't have Scout. This made them a spec weapons team that had to slog it along the field. Now they have the flexibility to outflank or move ahead. This squad is no new toy, it just had new strategies open up to them.
This is what sisters need. They like to get up close but have a long way to get there. They need ways of doing it like seraphim deep strike and dominion outflank without having to resort to marine toys....that said, someone mention either here or another forum sisters drop pods that look like cathedrals- which looks amazing in my head. Cathedral pods slamming in, laud hailers blaring hymnal music as sisters burst forward with prayer on lips undee the cover of pod bolters and meltas. Cathedral pods being modified after battle to be used as command posts, hospitals and aid stations in the wake of the aftermath...crap, now I want this.

In summary: plastics. Keep churchy look. We're not marines.

On a side not, if I were to venture a guess as to what future plastic sisters would look like, my bet would be on the aesthetics of Celestine and her geminae. At least for the armour...though I would welcome more angelic like figures into the sisters range.

I think chaos players were oddly more bitter though.

I can understand why, sisters players understand that ultimately they ARE just one army among many, chaos is constantly told they're the big bad, they're the uber evil, they're the most important faction other then the IoM...

but not seeing a whole lot of support to indicate it.

 mmzero252 wrote:
There's three SoB armies in my area. Lots of people probably haven't been using them because they won't place well in tournaments. That and how expensive the models are. Some are hard to get a hold of too.

They are quite popular here also, With he prime issue cost and lack of new models being the prime issue. I would say that a good rework and update would have been far more popular than some other releases.

Only the one GW employee plays Sisters out of all the people i've seen (at the very least all the regulars) and i think he's got everything. The 50% GW employee discount helps too (if i recall they get that). That said a bunch of people got the imperial triumverate that includes celestine. Usually she's the only Sisters part that they include in their army and it's usually as some annoying Imperial Triumverate that's super broken.

 Galas wrote:

The helmets are the only part of the models I like.

OTOH the helmets are amazing.

They should make plastic sisters or put them out of their misery the current limbo is unfair and each update removes more options without giving anything to compensate.

flamingkillamajig wrote:Those costs are still way too much.

Well it's a hard thing to really say but it's only gotten worse with the current political trend. I don't want to get this way off topic or starting an argument but there are some Feminists that take Sisters a little too far. I don't mind girls in the imperial guard but i find some groups just want all girls for the sake of having all girls (i can understand this one more because of all the guy factions but i don't see many girl players at the local store) or worse with a girls are better than boys attitude (though that's much rarer). I never liked marines myself with maybe dark angels being an exception and i did like grey knights and death watch a bit too but i don't think i'd dip into the marine armies. As far as best looking army for the moment i still think dark eldar have a really nice aesthetic for 40k. Shame they're so fragile to transport around in a case.

I accept that there are people with differing opinion, and that those people are in power. I don't mind; that's how representative democracy works.

What really irks me are the people who are politics-adverse. Caring about the course of our nation is your civic duty as a voting citizen of the United States of America! If you can stand on a soapbox and say out loud that you oppose my ideals and why, I can accept that. But, if your reason for opposing my beliefs is "because I'm loud and have ideas I care about," then I hold you in contempt.

If you're upset about increased levels of political awareness and activism from progressively minded individuals, there's nothing more I can say to you that would be constructive.

Giantwalkingchair wrote:I've never been a fan of giving sisters marine-esque things like terminator armour and their equivalents. Even just thinking about it now makes me cringe. These sisters are set apart from marines and giving them marine tools beyond what they already have now would only serve to further the slanderous misconception that they're just gal marines. I shall forego the desire to burst into anti marine rant and just summarise it as sisters have got a lot more flavour than most people give them credit for.

They're not just psychotic murder hobo nuns with guns. GW spends so much time pointlessly red-shirting these girls that we don't get to see them shine. Sisters have a massive humanitarian side- pilgrim protection, humanitarian support, heck even baby kissing; the sisters inspire awe and wonder and hope- their very presence is the embodiment of faith that inspires the most downtrodden to hope and the most hardened criminals to repentance.
Marines by comparison just wreck **** and then **** off.
While marines are emptily screaming "for the emperor", the sisters know believe whole geartedly what they shout and pray and say. These are women so into their theology, they can go toe to toe with a word bearer in both a battle of might and words. Their arguments aren't just " big Es da boss cuz I sez" each one is able to sit you down and eloquently explain every facet of their faith without needing to purge you because you're going to be falling on your face 10 minutes into the conversation begging the emperor's favour.

Where was I going with this? Oh yeah, new sisters need to keep the church look ramped up to 11. I don't think it's a matter of needing more new toys like marines keep getting, but the ability to have multiple strategies available to them. I use the dominion squad as an example.
Pre 7th...or was it 6th? On of the two, this squad didn't have Scout. This made them a spec weapons team that had to slog it along the field. Now they have the flexibility to outflank or move ahead. This squad is no new toy, it just had new strategies open up to them.
This is what sisters need. They like to get up close but have a long way to get there. They need ways of doing it like seraphim deep strike and dominion outflank without having to resort to marine toys....that said, someone mention either here or another forum sisters drop pods that look like cathedrals- which looks amazing in my head. Cathedral pods slamming in, laud hailers blaring hymnal music as sisters burst forward with prayer on lips undee the cover of pod bolters and meltas. Cathedral pods being modified after battle to be used as command posts, hospitals and aid stations in the wake of the aftermath...crap, now I want this.

In summary: plastics. Keep churchy look. We're not marines.

On a side not, if I were to venture a guess as to what future plastic sisters would look like, my bet would be on the aesthetics of Celestine and her geminae. At least for the armour...though I would welcome more angelic like figures into the sisters range.

I would like a FlaK tank. A good one please. I would like a way to shoot down planes and FMC's that's more effective than spraying rifle fire at the sky.

Currently, my only plan when engaging armies such as the Daemon Flying Circus or Flyrants, or the Necron airwing, is to run around and pretend the flyers don't exist. Fishing for 6's with the Exorcists isn't an effective way to down flyers, and neither is hosing the sky down with heavy bolter fire.

A little over 10 years ago, when I started playing 40k, Sisters were even then one of those armies that was so cool to me, and I wanted them. Even when I was a wee lad of 15, the idea of a bunch of psychotic power-armoured BDSM nuns (who also happened to run alongside the Inquisition) was badass. They had so much more character than the bland and flawless Space Marines then, and they still do now, as much as GW hates them. I bought a few of the characters, but being full metal and expensive as hell even then made them extremely prohibitive as an army (and I ran Grey Knights at the time, so everything was full metal for them too, but at least I didn't need to field so many).

But even 10 years ago, plastic sisters were 'right around the corner.' And it looks like they're just as right around the corner as they were 10 years ago.

Now, I'd happily drop hundreds of dollars on a Sisters army the moment they're available for preorder without a second thought. I basically have an emergency 'In Case of Plastic Sisters Break Glass' fund. But I doubt it will ever happen at this point. I figure that they're essentially squatted now, especially with the Sisters of Silence being GW's new 'obligatory female presence faction.'

It's funny, too, because all they'd need would be a single box for infantry (Sisters/Celestians/Retributors/Dominions), and a single box for jump infantry (dual kit for Seraphim/newunit), and they'd cover most of the faction. Sure, there are lots of crazy and kooky big toys, but for GW's red-headed step child, even just the basic infantry would do. Considering that GW likes to pump out 4 or 5 new Space Marine boxes every thursday, it can't be too much to ask for a faction that hasn't received any reasonable updates for 20 years to get two god damn boxes.

Luciferian wrote:Hey, I don't make the calls at GW. I'm just commenting on the only information I have to go on. I've also never once seen a SoB army in person in 20 years being involved with 40k on and off, though that's anecdotal.

No doubt it's a shame that GW has all but abandoned SoB. When I think about 40k, they are one of the most iconic factions that comes to mind. I still go back and play Dawn of War: Soulstorm and they're my favorite faction in the game. I've always wanted to start an army, but I don't even remember seeing them in a store!

My LGS has a couple SoB players here, and I love to see them out on the field.

Fafnir wrote:A little over 10 years ago, when I started playing 40k, Sisters were even then one of those armies that was so cool to me, and I wanted them. Even when I was a wee lad of 15, the idea of a bunch of psychotic power-armoured BDSM nuns (who also happened to run alongside the Inquisition) was badass. They had so much more character than the bland and flawless Space Marines then, and they still do now, as much as GW hates them. I bought a few of the characters, but being full metal and expensive as hell even then made them extremely prohibitive as an army (and I ran Grey Knights at the time, so everything was full metal for them too, but at least I didn't need to field so many).

Almost the same for me. I never bought one, though. I was just about to, then I saw that the box of 5 metal Sisters cost almost twice as much as 10 plastic Marines. My budget couldn't handle that at the time, so I put the idea on the back burner until I could get some serious income (still waiting on that). I can't say I would start buying them as soon as they come out, due to my current lack of a job, but if they came out, they would probably be my first army getting back in to 40K.

Fafnir wrote:It's funny, too, because all they'd need would be a single box for infantry (Sisters/Celestians/Retributors/Dominions), and a single box for jump infantry (dual kit for Seraphim/newunit), and they'd cover most of the faction. Sure, there are lots of crazy and kooky big toys, but for GW's red-headed step child, even just the basic infantry would do. Considering that GW likes to pump out 4 or 5 new Space Marine boxes every thursday, it can't be too much to ask for a faction that hasn't received any reasonable updates for 20 years to get two god damn boxes.

I think it would be a little more. I'd run them as a box of 10 Bolter Sisters w/ Elite and Special options, a box of 5 Heavy Weapon Sisters, and a box of Serephim. That's the minimum of boxes I'd make for the Infantry, but I'd still like to see a Repentia box with options other than the Eviserator for some flavor. So, before blisters, we're looking at 4 new Infantry boxes.

Vehicles are a whole new bucket to work with. Either the Sisters get moved to the Razorback for their armed Transports or the Repressor comes out with a heavy weapon variant to replace the Immolator model. Having variants of the Penitent Engine would also be nice as well. The Exorcist would then need to be reviewed and addressed as well, unless it was incorporated in to the Repressor kit. Having a dual kit with the Exorcist would also be advantageous, as the Sororitas could really use an actual battle tank. So, that's 3 Vehicle boxes at a minimum I'd start with for a grand total of 7 boxes plus blisters before anything new is actually added.

I think you're expecting far too much. At this point, even a single box would be a reason for rejoicing. I'll be surprised if Sisters get so much as a footnote in the upcoming 8th edition previews.

 Fafnir wrote:
I think you're expecting far too much. At this point, even a single box would be a reason for rejoicing. I'll be surprised if Sisters get so much as a footnote in the upcoming 8th edition previews.

In the previews, yes. However, in order to actually reboot the Sisters so they would be selling, we're looking at a Dark Eldar-level resculpt, and those I listed are the bare minimum in order to establish them again. This may be spread out over a couple months so that we get the base Troops/Elite Box, Repressor/Immolator, plus a New Thing box for the first release, and then see the rest come a month with several new boxes along the way.

I haven't heard any thing actually being developed recently, but I've been out of the rumor-tracking business since Warseer crashed hard the last time. I think the last rumor I read that Sisters were being planned for a Fall release, we saw the Sisters of Silence being released within that time frame.

The thing is, GW doesn't think Sisters will ever sell well enough to justify a full release, because they haven't been selling well now (...I wonder why...). At this point, we'd probably be lucky to get a single unit entry (and maybe a hero) in the 'Imperial Agents' faction (or whatever they end up calling it in 8th).

 Fafnir wrote:
The thing is, GW doesn't think Sisters will ever sell well enough to justify a full release, because they haven't been selling well now (...I wonder why...). At this point, we'd probably be lucky to get a single unit entry (and maybe a hero) in the 'Imperial Agents' faction (or whatever they end up calling it in 8th).

They are selling better now than Dark Eldar were before their reboot...

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

flamingkillamajig wrote:Those costs are still way too much.

Well it's a hard thing to really say but it's only gotten worse with the current political trend. I don't want to get this way off topic or starting an argument but there are some Feminists that take Sisters a little too far. I don't mind girls in the imperial guard but i find some groups just want all girls for the sake of having all girls (i can understand this one more because of all the guy factions but i don't see many girl players at the local store) or worse with a girls are better than boys attitude (though that's much rarer). I never liked marines myself with maybe dark angels being an exception and i did like grey knights and death watch a bit too but i don't think i'd dip into the marine armies. As far as best looking army for the moment i still think dark eldar have a really nice aesthetic for 40k. Shame they're so fragile to transport around in a case.

I accept that there are people with differing opinion, and that those people are in power. I don't mind; that's how representative democracy works.

What really irks me are the people who are politics-adverse. Caring about the course of our nation is your civic duty as a voting citizen of the United States of America! If you can stand on a soapbox and say out loud that you oppose my ideals and why, I can accept that. But, if your reason for opposing my beliefs is "because I'm loud and have ideas I care about," then I hold you in contempt.

If you're upset about increased levels of political awareness and activism from progressively minded individuals, there's nothing more I can say to you that would be constructive.

Well i'm sorry you feel that way but it's your choice. I do care about my side of the argument and have feminist friends but i myself am not one. It really depends on what it's over 'wants' issues vs 'needs' issues. A 'wants' issue is wanting more girls in 40k which is a game you play. A need issue is getting raped, killed, losing your home or job or something of that nature. You know something that effects your life. Most feminist issues circle around the 'wants' area rather than the 'needs'. Add to that the fact some companies are adding certain groups for PR reasons and display them constantly trying to act as if they're so open-minded when they do it just for PR reasons and it kind of craps on the actual people that want the change. In the case of the other groups that have it bad i can understand more. When somebody gets killed it matters but when you see an ad for like 'the gap' and an older kid is pretending to be a brat to a younger kid turns into a race issue you're kind of projecting things and it doesn't matter.

Anyway i was trying my best to remain civil and not turn this into an issue. I wish not to upset the mods.

 Fafnir wrote:
The thing is, GW doesn't think Sisters will ever sell well enough to justify a full release, because they haven't been selling well now (...I wonder why...). At this point, we'd probably be lucky to get a single unit entry (and maybe a hero) in the 'Imperial Agents' faction (or whatever they end up calling it in 8th).

Really. Where people has hear the "We don't do SoB because they don't sell well enough?" from GW. Because I'll like to see the links.

Comparing the sales of SoB now to other armies is just useless. The actual model range of SoB could be just non existant to accounting the number of people that could buy them in a re-release, because beginning a SoB army today is one of the more extreme levels of Sadomasochism one can do.

Who in GW tought that Genestealer Cults could ever sell enough to justify the full release they received? Karadron Overlords, Fyreslayers? Ironjawz? Cult Mechanicus? All of those armies had near 0 fanbase before they existence (I know, GS and Admech did had fans), but GW just did them. And the fanbase was created after their release.

If GW don't reluanch SoB is not because they think they aren't gonna sell. Is because they haven't anyone in the Studio go wants to commit to that job, or just nobody in the studio like SoB fluff, etc...
In the past, Squats where one of the big miniature ranges of 40k. Did you know why they "squatted" them? Not because a sales reason. Just because nobody in the studio know what to do to them in therms of aesthetic, feeling, and fluff.

 Charistoph wrote:

I think it would be a little more. I'd run them as a box of 10 Bolter Sisters w/ Elite and Special options, a box of 5 Heavy Weapon Sisters, and a box of Serephim. That's the minimum of boxes I'd make for the Infantry, but I'd still like to see a Repentia box with options other than the Eviserator for some flavor. So, before blisters, we're looking at 4 new Infantry boxes.

Vehicles are a whole new bucket to work with. Either the Sisters get moved to the Razorback for their armed Transports or the Repressor comes out with a heavy weapon variant to replace the Immolator model. Having variants of the Penitent Engine would also be nice as well. The Exorcist would then need to be reviewed and addressed as well, unless it was incorporated in to the Repressor kit. Having a dual kit with the Exorcist would also be advantageous, as the Sororitas could really use an actual battle tank. So, that's 3 Vehicle boxes at a minimum I'd start with for a grand total of 7 boxes plus blisters before anything new is actually added.

Exorcist kit already includes the Immolator kit, actually. The Immolator is also in plastic.

And I like the Immolator.

To answer the OP, yes, I would buy some plastic SoB. I'd willingly max out some credit cards and ruin myself financially for them.
Just kidding tho. Probably.

Id buy

looking at the quality of the new ones.

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 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I like the idea of homicidal space nuns with chainsaws and flamethrowers. I enjoy the ridiculous, heavy metal aspect of 40k. That said, if there are new plastic sisters I think it would be cool if the boob plates got toned down and the battle scars and scariness got turned up.

Also the helmets. Let me put those helmets on a full squad or two without spending exorbitant amounts of money and cutting up huge chunks of pewter and I will be very happy.


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 NenkotaMoon wrote:
what do people have against boob plates I don't know.

Oh, here we go...

Sisters of Battle Helmets are without a doubt my favourite style of Helmets in all of 40k. I don't know why, because the Breacher Firewarrior helmets are ultra cool, but the SoB ones... hmmm...
If they where affordable I'll buyt them just to use with my Imperial Guard and Space Marines.
Just look at this. Beautiful.

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Yeah the helmets are definitely awesome, hopefully the fleur de lis and many of these details carry over to any plastic models. I just don't want GW to tone down the gothicness of the imperium models any more.

 Dakka Flakka Flame wrote:
I like the idea of homicidal space nuns with chainsaws and flamethrowers. I enjoy the ridiculous, heavy metal aspect of 40k. That said, if there are new plastic sisters I think it would be cool if the boob plates got toned down and the battle scars and scariness got turned up.

That's sort of a defining feature. 40k isn't meant to be functional. These are the same people who stick cathedrals on spaceships.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Exorcist kit already includes the Immolator kit, actually. The Immolator is also in plastic.

And I like the Immolator.

Interesting. That is not noted on the website, and I checked before making that post. I was merely stating it for the case of simplicity and consistency.

But then, that would assumes the Rhino would be dropped in favor of the Repressor (which I somewhat hope, I really like it, and I can afford Forgeworld even less than Citadel).

 NivlacSupreme wrote:
These are the same people who stick spaceships on cathedrals.

Fix'd