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BrianDavion wrote:

I think chaos players were oddly more bitter though.

I can understand why, sisters players understand that ultimately they ARE just one army among many, chaos is constantly told they're the big bad, they're the uber evil, they're the most important faction other then the IoM...

but not seeing a whole lot of support to indicate it.

That's because they're not, and never were. Chaos is the one feeding them the narrative, but Orks, Tyranids and Necrons are far more wide-spread and pervasive problems. Tyranids hive fleets devour countless worlds before they're ground to a halt. Necrons have weapons that can snuff out stars. Ork Waaaaghs race for centuries on end.

Chaos runs around starting fires before running away and hiding again. It spends more time infighting than anything else, because if there's one thing the Chaos Gods won't tolerate is any other Chaos God gaining an advantage over the others.

 Charistoph wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Exorcist kit already includes the Immolator kit, actually. The Immolator is also in plastic.

And I like the Immolator.

Interesting. That is not noted on the website, and I checked before making that post. I was merely stating it for the case of simplicity and consistency.

But then, that would assumes the Rhino would be dropped in favor of the Repressor (which I somewhat hope, I really like it, and I can afford Forgeworld even less than Citadel).

The Exorcist organ pipes, loading well, and keyboard/organist/ammunition rack assembly sit on top of the upper hull part of the Immolator. The organist stands inside the hole that serves as the Immolator's turret ring, and the loading well with the servitor inside goes within a second hole on the back of the platform, that's usually covered by the big fleur-de-lis hatch on the Immolator.

This superstructure part is actually the only piece that's actually integral to both the Immolator and the Exorcist, but the Exorcist comes with the entire Immolator sprue.

The Exorcist kit isn't actually a complete Immolator kit, though, because it doesn't come with the little clear plastic dome that goes in the Immolator turret. And considering the Exorcist costs $20 more than the Immolator thanks to all those metal bits, you shouldn't be buying it for an Immolator anyway.

Something I would like to see is the art panels on the side of the Exorcist sold separately from the model on an upgrade sprue [and not in metal]. I would buy sets of them for all my tanks, and I could see Grey Knights and Dark Angels players also buying them because they look absolutely awesome.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Exorcist kit already includes the Immolator kit, actually. The Immolator is also in plastic.

And I like the Immolator.

Interesting. That is not noted on the website, and I checked before making that post. I was merely stating it for the case of simplicity and consistency.

But then, that would assumes the Rhino would be dropped in favor of the Repressor (which I somewhat hope, I really like it, and I can afford Forgeworld even less than Citadel).

The Exorcist organ pipes, loading well, and keyboard/organist/ammunition rack assembly sit on top of the upper hull part of the Immolator. The organist stands inside the hole that serves as the Immolator's turret ring, and the loading well with the servitor inside goes within a second hole on the back of the platform, that's usually covered by the big fleur-de-lis hatch on the Immolator.

This superstructure part is actually the only piece that's actually integral to both the Immolator and the Exorcist, but the Exorcist comes with the entire Immolator sprue.

The Exorcist kit isn't actually a complete Immolator kit, though, because it doesn't come with the little clear plastic dome that goes in the Immolator turret. And considering the Exorcist costs $20 more than the Immolator thanks to all those metal bits, you shouldn't be buying it for an Immolator anyway.

Something I would like to see is the art panels on the side of the Exorcist sold separately from the model on an upgrade sprue [and not in metal]. I would buy sets of them for all my tanks, and I could see Grey Knights and Dark Angels players also buying them because they look absolutely awesome.

More to the point, one does not see the Immolator at all on the site... Woops, I see it now, never mind on that point.

Still, we are talking about getting a full plastic kit here, not a hybrid kit. Wouldn't it be more fun to have a plastic Immolator based on the Repressor and let the Exorcist plastic sprue come with a light tank kit?

I would buy up sisters in a heartbeat.

They basically represent everything I like about 40K.

Well they'd go well with catholic Space Marines, so why the feth not?

 Charistoph wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

The Exorcist organ pipes, loading well, and keyboard/organist/ammunition rack assembly sit on top of the upper hull part of the Immolator. The organist stands inside the hole that serves as the Immolator's turret ring, and the loading well with the servitor inside goes within a second hole on the back of the platform, that's usually covered by the big fleur-de-lis hatch on the Immolator.

This superstructure part is actually the only piece that's actually integral to both the Immolator and the Exorcist, but the Exorcist comes with the entire Immolator sprue.

The Exorcist kit isn't actually a complete Immolator kit, though, because it doesn't come with the little clear plastic dome that goes in the Immolator turret. And considering the Exorcist costs $20 more than the Immolator thanks to all those metal bits, you shouldn't be buying it for an Immolator anyway.

Something I would like to see is the art panels on the side of the Exorcist sold separately from the model on an upgrade sprue [and not in metal]. I would buy sets of them for all my tanks, and I could see Grey Knights and Dark Angels players also buying them because they look absolutely awesome.

More to the point, one does not see the Immolator at all on the site... Woops, I see it now, never mind on that point.

Still, we are talking about getting a full plastic kit here, not a hybrid kit. Wouldn't it be more fun to have a plastic Immolator based on the Repressor and let the Exorcist plastic sprue come with a light tank kit?

You've got it backwards, the Exorcist is the medium vehicle [13/11/10] and the Immolator is the light one [11/11/10]. That art it worth it's weight in armor, apparently.

The Repressor is pretty cool, and could definitely share a kit with the Exorcist.

I'm just amazed we got plastic Sisters of Silence ahead of Sororitas. Very surprised. My daughter's been waiting for them but is doing Silent Sisters instead now.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
You've got it backwards, the Exorcist is the medium vehicle [13/11/10] and the Immolator is the light one [11/11/10]. That art it worth it's weight in armor, apparently.

The Repressor is pretty cool, and could definitely share a kit with the Exorcist.

The Repressor shares the same stats as the Rhino and Immolator from every entry I've seen. And technically speaking, they all share the base model hull of the Rhino along with the Vindicator, Predator, Stalker, and Hunter (and a little bit of the Vindicator).

So, no, I don't think having the Exorcist be hooked up with a light tank while the capacity Transport is hooked up to the gun Transport is that backwards.

 Charistoph wrote:

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
You've got it backwards, the Exorcist is the medium vehicle [13/11/10] and the Immolator is the light one [11/11/10]. That art it worth it's weight in armor, apparently.

The Repressor is pretty cool, and could definitely share a kit with the Exorcist.

The Repressor shares the same stats as the Rhino and Immolator from every entry I've seen. And technically speaking, they all share the base model hull of the Rhino along with the Vindicator, Predator, Stalker, and Hunter (and a little bit of the Vindicator).

So, no, I don't think having the Exorcist be hooked up with a light tank while the capacity Transport is hooked up to the gun Transport is that backwards.

Repressor is AV13/11/10, just like the Exorcist.

However, as I mentioned, what we really need is a FlaK tank. I'm tired of basically having nothing to do when I see a FMC-spam list.

As a random observation on the matter, I like the solid weight the metal Exorcist has.

Edit: Also tired IRL, and need to sleep. I can't type right.

It's 13/11/10 comes with a dozer blade, heavy flamer, and storm bolter standard. It's as hearty a vehicle as the exorcist

I wouldn't be surprised if flyer rules get changed or removed entirely anyway.

As an IG player, I actually might buy a box or two if they were released in plastic, seeing as it looks like they'll be in the same book as my army. Easier and imo cooler way to get some bolters and power armor in an Imperium force. By the same token, combining the books may tempt me into getting a little AdMech or a Knight.

Just how having IG units and the Xenos II index for my Orks might get me into GSC, and from there maybe even into Nids.

...Hm, This multiple factions per book may be one of GW's greatest ideas ever, unfortunately for my wallet.

 Fafnir wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if flyer rules get changed or removed entirely anyway.

Changed, yes, removed, no. Flyers have their own Role in the new game.


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 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Repressor is AV13/11/10, just like the Exorcist.

Apparently it is now. When it was first introduced, though, it was a Rhino with more Fire Points.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
However, as I mentioned, what we really need is a FlaK tank. I'm tired of basically having nothing to do when I see a FMC-spam list.

No argument there. Of course, if we want to get really serious about the whole thing, what we should see is the loss of the Immolator in favor of the Razorback, the Exorcist for the Whirlwind, and gain the Predator, Stalker, and Hunter lines for the sake of consistency.

Though, I'd still rather see the Repressor made by Citadel (especially if Forgeworld doesn't seem to be making it anymore), plastic Immolator and Exorcist, and an actual light tank to go along with their unique take on an AA tank.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
As a random observation on the matter, I like the solid weight the metal Exorcist has.

Metal is nice for lending weight, but it is also expensive to maintain, and who knows when they will begin dropping it.

 Charistoph wrote:

 Fafnir wrote:
I wouldn't be surprised if flyer rules get changed or removed entirely anyway.

Changed, yes, removed, no. Flyers have their own Role in the new game.


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 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Repressor is AV13/11/10, just like the Exorcist.

Apparently it is now. When it was first introduced, though, it was a Rhino with more Fire Points.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
However, as I mentioned, what we really need is a FlaK tank. I'm tired of basically having nothing to do when I see a FMC-spam list.

No argument there. Of course, if we want to get really serious about the whole thing, what we should see is the loss of the Immolator in favor of the Razorback, the Exorcist for the Whirlwind, and gain the Predator, Stalker, and Hunter lines for the sake of consistency.

Though, I'd still rather see the Repressor made by Citadel (especially if Forgeworld doesn't seem to be making it anymore), plastic Immolator and Exorcist, and an actual light tank to go along with their unique take on an AA tank.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
As a random observation on the matter, I like the solid weight the metal Exorcist has.

Metal is nice for lending weight, but it is also expensive to maintain, and who knows when they will begin dropping it.

No, we shouldn't, because that would make us just space marines with -4STR.

Exorcist isn't comparable to the Whirlwind. It's comparable to a Predator Annihilator.

The Immolator is already a fully plastic kit, as I mentioned. A Repressor would be nice because a medium transport would work well with Dominions and take the heat off of my Exorcists.

I'd love some if only for the option of customising them easily, or including a squad or two into some other armies, or running a SWA Kill Team of em.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
No, we shouldn't, because that would make us just space marines with -4STR.

Umm... No. An army isn't defined solely by its Vehicles, and I think you have the -# wrong.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
Exorcist isn't comparable to the Whirlwind. It's comparable to a Predator Annihilator.

It's a rocket launcher. I admit it's output is probably closer to the Annihilator, though, if it could take sponsons.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:
The Immolator is already a fully plastic kit, as I mentioned.

The website states that the Immolator is a plastic and resin kit.

This multi-part plastic and resin kit contains the components necessary to assemble an Immolator, armed with a twin-linked heavy flamer, heavy bolter or multi-melta.

It would be awkward if they were lying.

The immolator itself is an entirely plastic kit. Maybe the bubble dome thing is resin? That sounds silly though..However yeah, everything in the kit is plastic otherwise.

 mmzero252 wrote:
The immolator itself is an entirely plastic kit. Maybe the bubble dome thing is resin? That sounds silly though..However yeah, everything in the kit is plastic otherwise.

So Games Workshop is lying on its website?

 Charistoph wrote:

 mmzero252 wrote:
The immolator itself is an entirely plastic kit. Maybe the bubble dome thing is resin? That sounds silly though..However yeah, everything in the kit is plastic otherwise.

So Games Workshop is lying on its website?

Or they forgot to change the description.

On topic: I've voted no since I gave up on GW delivering anything of the like and went with the Raging Heroes kickstarter instead. I don't plan on mixing both GW and RH as they're distinctly different.

Perhaps the little clear piece is resin.

Edit: Now that I'm looking at it, it probably is resin. It's got the same quasi-trapezoidal gate/vent thing that things from forgeworld have.

I'm working on one right now. Here's a picture of what comes in the Immolator box.



Obviously, the tank doesn't come half assembled. The three spaces on the unique sprue where things have been cut off were where the superstructure, hatch cover for the second hole in the superstructure, and hedgerow plow were.

Also, it's not naturally shiny, it's the same grey plastic GW uses almost everywhere. I've airburshed a bunch of stuff silver.

If GW does someday the plastic sisters, I crave for some new type of units...

Something like elite spear-wielding Sisters? With winged helmets. Dark Angels taked that lesson well: Theres no helmet that don't look cooler with wings.

Ignore the wings, something like this is what I'm talking about:

No! Please no more feathers to paint!

 Luciferian wrote:
No! Please no more feathers to paint!

60% of my Dark Angels have wings in their helmets! Did you know how many Balthasars have I buyed from the Dark Vengeance set?
You faith is not strong enough!

My dark Angels look something like this, but with feathered wings

I'm just demoralized from working through about 25 Ravenwing bikes :(

You're going to be even more demoralized when it is revealed that the Dark Angels have secretly been worshipping Tzeentch.

8th Edition Ravenwing is going to be birdmen wearing winged helmets riding daemonic raven monsters.

A little bird told me this, so I know it's true.

That would actually be pretty bad ass, but I would have to start something else first.

 Galas wrote:
If GW does someday the plastic sisters, I crave for some new type of units...

Something like elite spear-wielding Sisters? With winged helmets. Dark Angels taked that lesson well: Theres no helmet that don't look cooler with wings.

Ignore the wings, something like this is what I'm talking about:

Spoiler:

Good god, I had no idea I wanted this so much.

Something to note is traditos poll asking are you going to get the new marines had 80% of people Say they will so I gota say it looks like new marines were the better investment.

 mew28 wrote:
Something to note is traditos poll asking are you going to get the new marines had 80% of people Say they will so I gota say it looks like new marines were the better investment.

Twas not a matter of 'better' only a matter of 'good'. And Sisters of battle are a good investment.

 Luciferian wrote:
That would actually be pretty bad ass, but I would have to start something else first.

The thing I really like about 40k is that it is nearly impossible to think of something that's too over the top.