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There is a rumour on Natfka that we could be getting our codex in July still

Let's hope that the click baiting son of an Ork is correct!

 Rippy wrote:
There is a rumour on Natfka that we could be getting our codex in July still

Let's hope that the click baiting son of an Ork is correct!

Well a real rumormonger in Atia confirmed a 10 man plastic plague marine box and a new Death Guard tank, so that's a guarantee. As to when, she did not say. I'd be happy with August, but July would certainly be preferable.

 Elbows wrote:
I still think the Nurgle models are heinous, but I don't mind the snap-fit stuff. For basic units, I've never cared about the complexity of the models.

The Poxwalkers I can live with - the actual Plague Marines put me off. Too many random fleshy bits. I mean, that sort of approach would be great for Possessed but....yeah, it really doesn't mesh aesthetically well with any existing version of Plague Marines they've had to date.

Use them as chosen with mark of nurgle.

 Starfarer wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
There is a rumour on Natfka that we could be getting our codex in July still

Let's hope that the click baiting son of an Ork is correct!

Well a real rumormonger in Atia confirmed a 10 man plastic plague marine box and a new Death Guard tank, so that's a guarantee. As to when, she did not say. I'd be happy with August, but July would certainly be preferable.

Is she a personal rumourmonger or would you have a source? Either way this makes me pretty pumped. I'm really hoping the tank resembles a Vindicator in some way. And a codex/release in July or August would be great

She's been reliable enough in the past.

Could have guessed the tank without her though - the DG art in the teaser video has a tank in it, and all the marines in the art are exact replicas of some of the Dark Imperium marines, so I'd say she's on the money.

Now if only GW would stop teasing and just give us some pictures...

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 Starfarer wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
There is a rumour on Natfka that we could be getting our codex in July still

Let's hope that the click baiting son of an Ork is correct!

Well a real rumormonger in Atia confirmed a 10 man plastic plague marine box and a new Death Guard tank, so that's a guarantee. As to when, she did not say. I'd be happy with August, but July would certainly be preferable.

Is she a personal rumourmonger or would you have a source? Either way this makes me pretty pumped. I'm really hoping the tank resembles a Vindicator in some way. And a codex/release in July or August would be great

She's a pretty well known rumormonger, and has 75 True and 0 False claims on the Dakka rumor tracker: https://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/0/448304.page

She has a blog where she mentioned these units on the comments on a recent post. https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/2193#disqus_thread

 Marshal Loss wrote:
She's been reliable enough in the past.

Could have guessed the tank without her though - the DG art in the teaser video has a tank in it, and all the marines in the art are exact replicas of some of the Dark Imperium marines, so I'd say she's on the money.

Now if only GW would stop teasing and just give us some pictures...

Maybe it's just me, but I have a hard time getting excited for more tanks for my DG when I still don't feel safe assuming we will get terminators. That single clear image seems more and more worryingly like an HQ option than part of a squad.

SilverAlien wrote:

 Marshal Loss wrote:
She's been reliable enough in the past.

Could have guessed the tank without her though - the DG art in the teaser video has a tank in it, and all the marines in the art are exact replicas of some of the Dark Imperium marines, so I'd say she's on the money.

Now if only GW would stop teasing and just give us some pictures...

Maybe it's just me, but I have a hard time getting excited for more tanks for my DG when I still don't feel safe assuming we will get terminators. That single clear image seems more and more worryingly like an HQ option than part of a squad.

We will get Terminators. I'm not sure how you could come to the conclusion that the preview picture is of a HQ model, as the weapon looks almost identical to the Plaguespitter on the Bloat Drone. It's a heavy weapon specialist from a forthcoming Terminator squad. In the background, you can even vaguely make out the silhouette of another DG Terminator. Look at the trim around the gorget.



Do you really think GW would pass up on the chance to fiddle with the CAD Cataphractii units (as they did with the CAD Tartaros for TS) to create a Terminator unit for one of the Legions most strongly associated with Terminators? I don't mean to sound like a dick, but there is no way we're not getting a squad of Terminators. No way at all. I'd happily bet on it. The question is when, not if.

I think the question is really "When we get a DG Terminator unit, will it have options compatible with the models we currently have?"

The last thing we want is a cool new unique DG Terminator unit that replaces vanilla terminator options and means we have to rip our models apart

I'm honestly not taking anything for granted. Better to expect the worst and be surprised is my general motto. If I keep my expectations so low that even getting terminators is optimistic, I won't be as annoyed when they invalidate my existing terminators with a new (quite possibly worse) version.

Uhh, okay. Whatever works for you.

Charax wrote:
I think the question is really "When we get a DG Terminator unit, will it have options compatible with the models we currently have?"

The last thing we want is a cool new unique DG Terminator unit that replaces vanilla terminator options and means we have to rip our models apart

This is a valid concern. I'm hoping that as DG aren't dustbots we'll have more freedom with weapons and wargear than the Scarab Occult, but that's just blind hope. I feel for oldschool DG players here. Fingers crossed.

 Marshal Loss wrote:
Uhh, okay. Whatever works for you.

Charax wrote:
I think the question is really "When we get a DG Terminator unit, will it have options compatible with the models we currently have?"

The last thing we want is a cool new unique DG Terminator unit that replaces vanilla terminator options and means we have to rip our models apart

This is a valid concern. I'm hoping that as DG aren't dustbots we'll have more freedom with weapons and wargear than the Scarab Occult, but that's just blind hope. I feel for oldschool DG players here. Fingers crossed.

I would imagine they will get unique gear to differentiate between regular termies and these guys. If we're lucky it will be a dual kit of grave wardens and deathshroud termies. I would imagine that the chance of them being able to take regular gear is quite slim unfortunately :(


Also, I'm really curious to see the tank. I hope it's a nurglified Sicaran battle tank! I imagine it'll be rhino based though, due to cost reasons.

According to fluff DG used mainly Vindis, Typhons and fellblades. Looking at the pics from the intro-vid I find Vindis rather likely. Of course they won't be called Vindicator but ... corroded slimelobbers. Probably also a dual-kit with some unique weapon loadout.

So any concrete news on our release. Last i heard was now November release which frankly is a joke if true

Nothing yet - and before people argue that the other thread where the omitting of Terminators may have been a mistake wouldn't be so because GW don't cover rules for FW models....remember, Razorbacks don't come with Assault Cannons and never have - but FW make a kit for that.

I'm now concerned.

The new Primaris characters have a free download for points for matched Play...but it has a disclaimer saying 'The rules are supplied with the model' and no profile info etc. I do hope this isn't their new approach. Please don't forgo Codexes for this approach GW. Give us some faith.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Nothing yet - and before people argue that the other thread where the omitting of Terminators may have been a mistake wouldn't be so because GW don't cover rules for FW models....remember, Razorbacks don't come with Assault Cannons and never have - but FW make a kit for that.

I'm now concerned.

The new Primaris characters have a free download for points for matched Play...but it has a disclaimer saying 'The rules are supplied with the model' and no profile info etc. I do hope this isn't their new approach. Please don't forgo Codexes for this approach GW. Give us some faith.

Last I heard codices are gone and its all data cards now.

Vaxx wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Nothing yet - and before people argue that the other thread where the omitting of Terminators may have been a mistake wouldn't be so because GW don't cover rules for FW models....remember, Razorbacks don't come with Assault Cannons and never have - but FW make a kit for that.

I'm now concerned.

The new Primaris characters have a free download for points for matched Play...but it has a disclaimer saying 'The rules are supplied with the model' and no profile info etc. I do hope this isn't their new approach. Please don't forgo Codexes for this approach GW. Give us some faith.

Last I heard codices are gone and its all data cards now.

Guys they literally mention codices in the rulebook. Who knows what they will look like, but they will come.

SilverAlien wrote:

Vaxx wrote:

 DarkStarSabre wrote:
Nothing yet - and before people argue that the other thread where the omitting of Terminators may have been a mistake wouldn't be so because GW don't cover rules for FW models....remember, Razorbacks don't come with Assault Cannons and never have - but FW make a kit for that.

I'm now concerned.

The new Primaris characters have a free download for points for matched Play...but it has a disclaimer saying 'The rules are supplied with the model' and no profile info etc. I do hope this isn't their new approach. Please don't forgo Codexes for this approach GW. Give us some faith.

Last I heard codices are gone and its all data cards now.

Guys they literally mention codices in the rulebook. Who knows what they will look like, but they will come.

I'm fairly certain GW have even said a few times that codices are coming

 Motograter wrote:
So any concrete news on our release. Last i heard was now November release which frankly is a joke if true

That would make it a crazy amount of time since DGs initial trailer and announcement. I would be surprised, a lot of DG players want to continue building their army now that they are in the starter kit. Primaris are already getting two hqs and the reivers. So i'm hoping they do something for the DG at the very end of july or during august. I don't know if GW plans on alternating between primaris and death guard for weeks or months but they might do an unconventional release schedule.

 Thargrim wrote:

 Motograter wrote:
So any concrete news on our release. Last i heard was now November release which frankly is a joke if true

That would make it a crazy amount of time since DGs initial trailer and announcement. I would be surprised, a lot of DG players want to continue building their army now that they are in the starter kit. Primaris are already getting two hqs and the reivers. So i'm hoping they do something for the DG at the very end of july or during august. I don't know if GW plans on alternating between primaris and death guard for weeks or months but they might do an unconventional release schedule.

2 HQs, Reivers and we've already seen a transport/tank and dread for their army.

Meanwhile we Death Guard players just want them to show us something - anything! It'd do a world of good to get proper Terminator confirmation with perhaps showing layouts? Or heck, stop cockteasing us with Mortarion's left pinky, scythetip, random bell and just fething show us him.

Agree with DSS. I wouldn't mind waiting another 1-3 months if they showed us what we were actually getting. It's the vast wait from initial tease to release, with no details in between, that bothers me, especially when Primaris are dealing with no such shenanigans.

Guys, you are receiving 6 new poxwalkers sculpts and 3 plague marines sculpts.

What are you whining for?

Need some advice on my list.

HQ:
Typus
Necroius
Daemon Prince with twin Claws

Troops:
Plague Marines x7, 2 Blight launchers, plasmagun and powerfist
Plague Marines x7, 2 Blight launchers, plasmagun and powerfist
Poxwalkers x 19

Dedicated Transports:
Rhino with combibolter, combiflamer, and havoc launcher
Rhino with combibolter, combiflamer, and havoc launcher

Elites:
Helbrute with twin heavy bolter, fist, and flamer
Helbrute with twin heavy bolter, fist, and flamer

Fast:
Bloat Drone with spitters and melee weapon thing
Bloat Drone with spitters and melee weapon thing

Heavy:
Plague Hulk

This hits 2000 pts exactly.

This list will have the entire army move up to midfield having lots of tough things to shoot at with lots of flamers.
I'm really liking flamers - they seem to be tough for the points and with a full weapon load out they can harass most units.
I'm going to be adding to the army as the new units come out, but I'm really thinking I'm going to be leaning toward heavy bolters or similar on many of my units.

Both Typhus and Nacrosios will be hanging with the pox walkers while buffing and debuffing and throwing out smites.

What do yall think of these Helbrutes? I have them set up for an all around unit, sporting a flamer and hvy bolters. They are also a good anti tank with the fist.

Well... you've got no real anti tank besides the hellbrute's fist and plague hulk melee. The plague marines' special weapons and drones' melee can kinda stand in, but those are more for heavy infantry. Some ranged anti tank is probably not an awful idea.

You are also sinking a lot of points into making poxwalkers good, around 400 points to be exact. They won't fit in a transport and will be quickly outpaced by literally everything else. You probably need a blightbringer to help them advance if you want them to contribute, and typhus will still be an issue. Consider letting typhus deepstrike to support your faster units, while necrosius supports the poxwalkers. Typhus is still better than the normal lord of contagion and can easily show his worth with melee and psychic powers, and his normal buff aura.

Do you plan on keeping the demon prince near the plague marines? The overcharged mode is the real draw on those guns.

Also remember that the hellbrute loses a point of BS when he moves this edition. It isn't awful, but it does encourage full melee or ranged hellbrute somewhat.

SilverAlien wrote:
Well... you've got no real anti tank besides the hellbrute's fist and plague hulk melee. The plague marines' special weapons and drones' melee can kinda stand in, but those are more for heavy infantry. Some ranged anti tank is probably not an awful idea.

You are also sinking a lot of points into making poxwalkers good, around 400 points to be exact. They won't fit in a transport and will be quickly outpaced by literally everything else. You probably need a blightbringer to help them advance if you want them to contribute, and typhus will still be an issue. Consider letting typhus deepstrike to support your faster units, while necrosius supports the poxwalkers. Typhus is still better than the normal lord of contagion and can easily show his worth with melee and psychic powers, and his normal buff aura.

Do you plan on keeping the demon prince near the plague marines? The overcharged mode is the real draw on those guns.

Also remember that the hellbrute loses a point of BS when he moves this edition. It isn't awful, but it does encourage full melee or ranged hellbrute somewhat.

I was looking at the lascannon/missle helbrutes instead, having a couple in the backfield around the poxwalkers, letting them screen them.

My old DG list was very vehicle heavy, and I would totally get a landraider in this edition, but I'm waiting around to see what new vehicles we may get. If it really is a dual kit, I think I"ll be returning to my fullly armored company,

 Swara wrote:
I was looking at the lascannon/missle helbrutes instead, having a couple in the backfield around the poxwalkers, letting them screen them.

My old DG list was very vehicle heavy, and I would totally get a landraider in this edition, but I'm waiting around to see what new vehicles we may get. If it really is a dual kit, I think I"ll be returning to my fullly armored company,

I think the lascannon+missle launcher is a good choice. Not sure about landraiders yet, I haven't really used mine given terminators don't need transports so far.

SilverAlien wrote:

 Swara wrote:
I was looking at the lascannon/missle helbrutes instead, having a couple in the backfield around the poxwalkers, letting them screen them.

My old DG list was very vehicle heavy, and I would totally get a landraider in this edition, but I'm waiting around to see what new vehicles we may get. If it really is a dual kit, I think I"ll be returning to my fullly armored company,

I think the lascannon+missle launcher is a good choice. Not sure about landraiders yet, I haven't really used mine given terminators don't need transports so far.

Im wondering how easy the helbrutes would be to magnatize, I haven't even seen that kit yet up close.

Looks like no major DG release in July/August. No Mortarion for Konor is a bizarre decision, in keeping with this painfully drawn-out DG hype.

Turns out the Plague Champion in the 'easy to build' box has a plasma gun on his back - pretty cool.

 Swara wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:

 Swara wrote:
I was looking at the lascannon/missle helbrutes instead, having a couple in the backfield around the poxwalkers, letting them screen them.

My old DG list was very vehicle heavy, and I would totally get a landraider in this edition, but I'm waiting around to see what new vehicles we may get. If it really is a dual kit, I think I"ll be returning to my fullly armored company,

I think the lascannon+missle launcher is a good choice. Not sure about landraiders yet, I haven't really used mine given terminators don't need transports so far.

Im wondering how easy the helbrutes would be to magnatize, I haven't even seen that kit yet up close.

It's pretty easy to magnetize, you should use rather large magnets though (I used 3x1 and find they should be stronger). You'll find how to's on youtube.