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Title says it all, really

Me, I'm really looking forward to the reintroduction of the movement stat. Finally, my Hormagaunts are going to move faster than everything else (as it should be! )

-Ben

That everything has been given a fresh start and we don't know what the power lists will be. Revamping every army at once should be done more often IMHO.

Also, tougher vehicles.

Also also, potentially better Narrative support from GW and opportunities to play it with other players.

As BunkhouseBuster said, I really like the fact that everything has been done together. Meaning that it will be some time before we have a complete understanding of the lay of the land. I've been watching battle reports on Youtube and the game looks to be playing really well. Fast paced, filled with options and strategy. Looks like lots of fun.

Charging a Fortress of Redemption or any other big fortification with a Valkyrie. It's like 9/11, only the airplane flies next to the building, comes to a halt, and starts trying to smack it to death with its passenger doors.

Oh! And the Wound/Save/Damage system now in place. Mechanically speaking, it is EXACTLY what I would have designed for 40K. The removal of Instant Death/Explodes/Removed From Play tones down the power level of the biggest and scariest models, while the Damage mechanic makes up for it.

I'm curious to see what they do with legions/csm. Lot of potential there.

I like the overall streamlining of the rules that has occurred.

Faster paced games with even matches (as far as I can tell) it's less of a oh you brought <insert army> theres really no point of deploying.

Berzerkers being the madmen they were always meant to be.

 MagicJuggler wrote:
Charging a Fortress of Redemption or any other big fortification with a Valkyrie. It's like 9/11, only the airplane flies next to the building, comes to a halt, and starts trying to smack it to death with its passenger doors.

unfortunately you can't do it.

 koooaei wrote:

 MagicJuggler wrote:
Charging a Fortress of Redemption or any other big fortification with a Valkyrie. It's like 9/11, only the airplane flies next to the building, comes to a halt, and starts trying to smack it to death with its passenger doors.

unfortunately you can't do it.

Unfortunately, it can be done thanks to Hover Jet.

I am looking forward to have a game or two. I haven't played since 3rd edition.

CARNIFEXES!

Carnifexes everywhere! I will drown them in a horde of gribbly scythes!

I look forward to fielding my mortar teams, without being laughed at or having people tell me, as if I was a slow person, that the wyvern is a much better unit and if I had considered using them.

the brief period of time going to tournaments where the WAAC players have found the next 'well this is fun to play againt, NOT,' list.

it might not even be possible...

however from the cracks of this very forum i see a meta forming already

Better narrative support (power levels etc).

The golden time where powergamers don't know what the minmax lists are yet so everything is fairly viable until a couple big tournaments in.

 Latro_ wrote:
the brief period of time going to tournaments where the WAAC players have found the next 'well this is fun to play againt, NOT,' list.

it might not even be possible...

however from the cracks of this very forum i see a meta forming already

Lets hope the meta isn't as bad as " my list that cant die, against your list with 1000 points of free models"

1. Varied lists!
2. Seeing models i haven't seen in ages: Baselisk, Whirlwinds for example
3. Tyranids being melee focused OH HELL YEAH.
4. Better game, better missions and deployments!

Playing again. The revamp to the rules and the streamlining has got me interested again. I haven't played since 5th edition.

Haven't played since 1 game in 6th edition. "casualties are removed from the front" and "narrative character challenges" completely broke Orks and I never returned. From what I gather from 7th edition the game only got worse. I feel that the rules may have oversimplified the game a bit too far in the other direction but I think that this is a good first step to allowing every army to have a chance to show up and play.

 koooaei wrote:

 MagicJuggler wrote:
Charging a Fortress of Redemption or any other big fortification with a Valkyrie. It's like 9/11, only the airplane flies next to the building, comes to a halt, and starts trying to smack it to death with its passenger doors.

unfortunately you can't do it.

Just ignore him. He's just spamming pretty much every thread about 8th with whinging about gameplay abstractions in 8th.

We went from a white scars captain wearing a special suit of armor joining 50 guardsmen and causing them to simultaneously become so slow and purposeful that they can fire lascannons from the hip but also so nimble that they can hit and run out of combat, to being able to charge a fortification with a plane.

It's a game. It'll have abstractions. Whatever.

Looking forward to actually enjoying the game again, rather than just doing it as a part of hanging out with some old friends.

What broke Orks in 6th was that vehicles as a whole got too few Hull Points for their own good; Kans and Buggies getting 2 HP base was their death knell, as well as cover defaulting to 5+ instead of 4+. You could "game" the challenge system by keeping your Nob in the center of your unit and waiting until the pile-in so he wasn't a valid challenge target. If anything, 6th actually improved melee hordes for a brief period of a time simply by nerfing mech armies (can't score in a transport) and getting rid of No Retreat.

Most issues Orks have had were due to relatively limited tactical flexibility and very weak supporting elements to make the melee horde truly take-all-comers.

Not having to hate Eldar...

 Gunzhard wrote:
Not having to hate Eldar...

Not having to hate any faction. Actually being able to enjoy facing anything without resentment.

Two things:

1 - Possibly feeling like my Deathwing are actually elite units;

2 - Having an easier time teaching newcomers the rules.

Rules for 30k Mechanicum so I could play them in 40k :(

Haven't played since the 4th edition I think. Looking very much forward to trying out the new edition. I got interested again in 40k during spring, but 7th didn't really inspire me to test it out. Hopefully GW will keep the balance decent with fairly steady points updates. Hopefully faction spesific auras and such are strong enough that cherry-picking the best units from widest factions(<imperium&gt won't be the best approach.

 BunkhouseBuster wrote:
Oh! And the Wound/Save/Damage system now in place. Mechanically speaking, it is EXACTLY what I would have designed for 40K. The removal of Instant Death/Explodes/Removed From Play tones down the power level of the biggest and scariest models, while the Damage mechanic makes up for it.

Huh. That's what I am least looking forwards to.

I think everything should have 1 wound. Maybe heroes have 2 or 3, for plot armor's sake.


I detest Hitpoints as a mechanic in games. Tanks should never have had hull points, and Monstrous Creatures should never have been a thing. A Carnifex or Riptide could easily have been 12/12/10 or something.


Here's what I would have done:
Named Heroes [Celestine, Grimnar, Yarrick, etc.] have 3 wounds.
Unnamed Heroes [Canoness, Wolf Lord, Company Commander, etc.] have 2 wounds.
Everything else has 1 wound.

I would also have kept the wound chart identical, because it does a better job of differentiating between a powerful gun for cracking tanks and small, rapid-firing rifles for infantry.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 BunkhouseBuster wrote:
Oh! And the Wound/Save/Damage system now in place. Mechanically speaking, it is EXACTLY what I would have designed for 40K. The removal of Instant Death/Explodes/Removed From Play tones down the power level of the biggest and scariest models, while the Damage mechanic makes up for it.

Huh. That's what I am least looking forwards to.

I think everything should have 1 wound. Maybe heroes have 2 or 3, for plot armor's sake.


I detest Hitpoints as a mechanic in games. Tanks should never have had hull points, and Monstrous Creatures should never have been a thing. A Carnifex or Riptide could easily have been 12/12/10 or something.


Here's what I would have done:
Named Heroes [Celestine, Grimnar, Yarrick, etc.] have 3 wounds.
Unnamed Heroes [Canoness, Wolf Lord, Company Commander, etc.] have 2 wounds.
Everything else has 1 wound.

I would also have kept the wound chart identical, because it does a better job of differentiating between a powerful gun for cracking tanks and small, rapid-firing rifles for infantry.

That seems incredibly one dimensional to me. It would make balancing everything else incredibly hard without making everything carbon copies of each other. My favourite game for looking at good game mechanics and balance is Malifaux, and there we have everything between 3 and 14(?) wounds on things. I honestly don't know what the exact range is, because there are too many unique models to know them all, but it's around those numbers. It makes for really nice padded game mechanics, where nothing generally just instantly blows up because of one semi-lucky flip (no dice, all cards in that game,) and things can be balanced around different things to make them all feel unique.

With 40k going much closer to that, I can only celebrate it.