Mordia is Gone

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**BrianDavion**

Iron_Captain wrote:
BlaxicanX wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
problem is Cadians are too generic,
Being generic is exactly the reason why Cadians are the poster-boy Regiment. Like half the Regiments on the galaxy base themselves off of Cadians aesthetically and in methodology.

They represent the "Everyman" Regiment that give you maximum freedom to make Your Dudes whatever you want then to be. Part of that is having a relatively generic sci-fi look.

Every regiment is supposed to be unique, there isn't supposed to be any standardisation. The only reason you see Cadians (or Cadians with a different name) everywhere is because Cadians is the only thing GW sells besides Catachans (and who wants those?) and a few old metal miniatures.

I do think GW is going to do something about it. They are probably (hopefully) going to release new infantry kits and make it so that those kits represent the new standard equipment for all Astra Militarum forces (except iconic groups like the Vostroyans or DKoK). That way GW solves the fact that almost all IG forces currently (in tabletop and fluff) are Cadians, rids itself from the responsibility to have multiple model ranges for the IG and removes the fluff excuse for IG players using third-party miniatures.

I don't really mind what GW is going to do, as long as they get rid of the current Cadian and Catachan miniatures and replace them with something that at least tries to resemble normal Human body proportions.

yeah thats my read too. heck make the new guard kit look bad ass eneugh and I think people'll be happy with it

**NH Gunsmith**

amazingturtles wrote:
Of course now this is got me wondering what my favorite regiments (Tallarn and Valhalla) are doing in all this mess.

Oh you know, just doing Guard stuff. Dieing in large numbers, holding the line, shining flashlights at stuff. There's probably even a few being shot by Commissars as we speak! I'm glad I'm just a few models away from finishing my Tallarn, they are getting real hard to find (besides the basic squad box that's Webstore Exclusive).

**NenkotaMoon**

And then they'll blow up Tallarn.

**GodDamUser**

NenkotaMoon wrote:
And then they'll blow up Tallarn.

They kinda did that 10,000 years ago..

it was a garden world originally

**MrPyro**

I wouldn't mind seeing some Imperial Guard women...

**BlaxicanX**

Iron_Captain wrote:
Every regiment is supposed to be unique, there isn't supposed to be any standardisation.

This is literally not true.

I mean think you want about the out-of-universe business motivations, but the fluff is explicit about Cadian regiments being the "model regiment" that other Guard units in the galaxy follow, just like how Ultramarines are the cast that most of the other chapters base themselves off of.

"Standardisation" implies that they're being forced to do this. In reality, other regiments choose to model themselves after Cadians because Cadians are the most famous Guardsmen in the galaxy.

**MrPyro**

BrianDavion wrote:
problem is Cadians are too generic, I mean take a look at starship troopers. almost exactly the same look. nah IF I was looking to replace the line, I'd be inclined to go with something distinct. the Ultramar Auxilleria are a logical idea for a new flagship Guard unit, (being proably the most high profile guard unit that hasn't been detailed with it's own trooper line, and being so close to Gulliman a logical contender to roll out new kit to) but I think the backlash of making the new GUARD posterboys the Ultramar Auxilleria would be immense.

I'm sure they could do the same fluffy crap of raising.some of the auxilla.to shore up defences for the imperium. Give a regiment to important generals and so forth (though without Creed there is no such thing as an important general).

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BlaxicanX wrote:
Iron_Captain wrote:
Every regiment is supposed to be unique, there isn't supposed to be any standardisation.
This is literally not true.

I mean think you want about the business motivations, but the fluff is explicit about Cadian regiments being the "model regiment" that other Guard units in the galaxy follow, just like how Ultramarines are the cast that most of the other chapters base themselves off of.

"Standardization" implies that they're being forced to do this. In reality, other regiments choose to model themselves after Cadians because Cadians are the most famous Guardsmen in the galaxy.

Damn right, you don'tsee those tossers at Modia getting killed en mass in all the cover, you see CADIANS.

**Ratius**

Its not a very clear piece of fluff but nowhere does it explicitly state Mordia has been destroyed.
Tzeentch seems to have won the overall campaign as it states the IoM etc could not raise enough reinforcements but it certainly dosent state the planet of Mordia is gone or destroyed.

**NenkotaMoon**

No one is saying Mordia is destroyed... yet.

**CthuluIsSpy**

You know, now that Guilleman is back to lead the Imperium, chances are they'll bring back the Imperial Army or the Solar Auxilia.
We already have a new type of marine, maybe we'll see a new type of guardsman.

**NenkotaMoon**

A boring one.

**BrianDavion**

NenkotaMoon wrote:
A boring one.

by boring you mean they don't have wolf in the name of all their gear?

people I think confuse boring with "lacks ANY subtly."

**NenkotaMoon**

No, just flat boring.

**agurus1**

BrianDavion wrote:
wonder if GW's planning on eventually doing a new guard regiment, and claiming it's a universal kit, to dischourage people from shopping around for minis at 3rd party places

Shifted to 3rd party via Victoria Miniatures, they have some great sculpts. I really hope that GW gets around to some new kits, FW has proven that normal humans can be just as badass as aliens and super humans both in 30k and 40k.

**Future War Cultist**

Poor Mordia. You know I once acquired a Mordian sergeant, and painted him up in Imperial Japanese colours from the Russo-Japanese war. It really suited them. I guess GW will stop selling their models altogether soon?

I think they will make a future one type plastic kit for the guard. I hope it's the Vostroyians. They are probably the second coolest looking regiment after the DKoK.

**Brotherjulian**

No worries, I heard all of the Tallarn regiments went to reinforce Baal.

**Commissar Benny**

Damn...wow. This is a huge development. Cadia gone. Now Mordia.

is going down.

A moment of silence for our Mordian players. If Mordian Glory reads this, well I feel for you bro. I'm sure there is still millions if not billions of Mordian/Cadians out there in the universe but it does seem to indicate GW will not be supporting the product line anymore which is a damn shame.

**NenkotaMoon**

Implies that they did to begin with for Mordians.

**Future War Cultist**

I'd be interested in seeing what regiment people would like to see remain as a revamped plastic kit. Should we have a vote?

**Commissar Benny**

Future War Cultist wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing what regiment people would like to see remain as a revamped plastic kit. Should we have a vote?

They will more than likely just add a new regiment. I would really like to see plastic Steel Legion, but the likelihood of that is probably on par with plastic SoB.

**CthuluIsSpy**

Future War Cultist wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing what regiment people would like to see remain as a revamped plastic kit. Should we have a vote?

It will probably be something brand new, like how the Primaris are Numarines.
I bet that the fall of Mordia and Cadia is just the buildup to Roboute Guilleman deciding to completely reorganize the Imperial Guard into something else following the fall of some important recruitment worlds, just as the Imperial Army was reorganized into the Imperial Guard following the heresy.
It will probably be something that unifies the IG into a single force rather than different regiments. In lore the reason will probably be something like to lessen the impact of losing the homeworld of an entire regiment, as all of the training will be standardized.
The real reason will probably be because GW doesn't want to keep track with different IG kits, like they have been failing to do for the last 10 years.

**BrianDavion**

CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Future War Cultist wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing what regiment people would like to see remain as a revamped plastic kit. Should we have a vote?

It will probably be something brand new, like how the Primaris are Numarines.
I bet that the fall of Mordia and Cadia is just the buildup to Roboute Guilleman deciding to completely reorganize the Imperial Guard into something else following the fall of some important recruitment worlds, just as the Imperial Army was reorganized into the Imperial Guard following the heresy.
It will probably be something that unifies the IG into a single force rather than different regiments. In lore the reason will probably be something like to lessen the impact of losing the homeworld of an entire regiment, as all of the training will be standardized.
The real reason will probably be because GW doesn't want to keep track with different IG kits, like they have been failing to do for the last 10 years.

that and right now guard almsot enchourage the use of third party kits. if I was running GW, I'd be wanting to change THAT

**CthuluIsSpy**

BrianDavion wrote:
CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Future War Cultist wrote:
I'd be interested in seeing what regiment people would like to see remain as a revamped plastic kit. Should we have a vote?

It will probably be something brand new, like how the Primaris are Numarines.
I bet that the fall of Mordia and Cadia is just the buildup to Roboute Guilleman deciding to completely reorganize the Imperial Guard into something else following the fall of some important recruitment worlds, just as the Imperial Army was reorganized into the Imperial Guard following the heresy.
It will probably be something that unifies the IG into a single force rather than different regiments. In lore the reason will probably be something like to lessen the impact of losing the homeworld of an entire regiment, as all of the training will be standardized.
The real reason will probably be because GW doesn't want to keep track with different IG kits, like they have been failing to do for the last 10 years.

that and right now guard almsot enchourage the use of third party kits. if I was running GW, I'd be wanting to change THAT

Yeah, that's another reason to get rid of different regiments and unify it under a single identity.
GW offered all of these different regiments, but either never delivered on it or keep up with it. Which means that if you want to make something like, idk, praetorians, you have to rely on a 3rd party to get the look you want.
I would understand it if they did go this path, and they might release something satisfactory, but I would be saddened by the loss of flavor, as that was a big part of the IG; that its a vast and varied organisation where each regiment represents their world and have a different way of fighting.

**Future War Cultist**

This is a problem that's pretty unique to the IG. No other faction in any game GW make is this open to customization. Great for us, but not so great for them. Requires a huge range to support, and third parties can muscle in on your turf. They're probably going to do something about that.

**NH Gunsmith**

Brotherjulian wrote:
No worries, I heard all of the Tallarn regiments went to reinforce Baal.

I had no idea about that, way too cool! Finishing up my Tallarn army, and finishing up buying my Blood Angels army too. Can't wait to mix them in together every now and then.

**NenkotaMoon**

The problem with replacing regiments is that from what the index is showing, there doesn't seem to be that intention from GW to do so.

**CthuluIsSpy**

NenkotaMoon wrote:
The problem with replacing regiments is that from what the index is showing, there doesn't seem to be that intention from GW to do so.

The Index is just support for existing armies. The true 8th ed codices will probably be much different.

**NenkotaMoon**

Like I said still, it doesn't intake new direction, so I'm gonna say no.

**Yodhrin**

BrianDavion wrote:
wonder if GW's planning on eventually doing a new guard regiment, and claiming it's a universal kit, to dischourage people from shopping around for minis at 3rd party places

If they think we're that thick they can away and gargle Nurgle's leftover bathwater.

As to the topic - yet another reason to ignore the garbo new fluff.

**Future War Cultist**

What if they focus the spotlight on the Scions more? I think they should do this anyway. If the marines are now getting hover tanks and the like, then I think the Scions could get conventional bikes and such.

My gut feeling though is that they'll make a new regiment in plastic and push that forward whilst quietly retiring the others whilst allowing people who have said regiments to carry on using them.