General's Handbook 2017 Announced

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**BunkhouseBuster**

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/06/26/generals-handbook-2017-june26gw-homepage-post-3/

Warhammer Community wrote:For open play, the multiplayer rules have been massively expanded, and now include Triumph & Treachery – devious rules for mid-game betrayals.

Narrative players are about to get really spoilt. With Path to Glory soon to become its own stand-alone expansion, this section has been freed up for a huge amount of new content in the 2017 edition. Highlights include rules for siege warfare in the Mortal Realms and Time of War battlefield rules for locations in every realm (even the one’s we haven’t been to yet!).

Matched play is set to get plenty of updates too. These include new Battleplans, new rules of one, and updated points for units in every faction in the Mortal Realms.

Perhaps most excitingly of all are the new Allegiance Abilities. These are much expanded from those four Grand Alliance army-traits from the previous General’s Handbook. The new book will cover Allegiance Abilities for the likes of Fyreslayers, seraphon, Slaaneshi hosts, Nighthaunts and over a dozen others.

Tah-dah! It's coming soon! New points updates from Matched Play, Siege Warfare for Narrative Play (cool!) and expanded Allegiance Abilities for the armies lacking a new Battletome.

I hope Dispossessed get their own Alleigance Abilities. If that is the case, I will just take a complete break from 40K for AoS.

**NinthMusketeer**

So excited for Slaanesh allegiance and hopefully not-broken point costs!

**amazingturtles**

Nifty! i have hopes.

and the people predicting that path to glory getting its own book to make space in the ghb were right, it seems like.

**Ghaz**

amazingturtles wrote:
Nifty! i have hopes.

and the people predicting that path to glory getting its own book to make space in the ghb were right, it seems like.

It wasn't so much of a prediction, but an announcement that GW made last week.

**auticus**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
So excited for Slaanesh allegiance and hopefully not-broken point costs!

If the SCGT alternate point costs are a reflection, some of the busted items are looked at, but things like kunnin rukk are still bent.

**ERJAK**

auticus wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
So excited for Slaanesh allegiance and hopefully not-broken point costs!

If the SCGT alternate point costs are a reflection, some of the busted items are looked at, but things like kunnin rukk are still bent.

The SCGT points costs are an incredibly small sample of the overall point cost changes, I don't think you can extrapolate anything meaningful out of them.

**EnTyme**

auticus wrote:
NinthMusketeer wrote:
So excited for Slaanesh allegiance and hopefully not-broken point costs!

If the SCGT alternate point costs are a reflection, some of the busted items are looked at, but things like kunnin rukk are still bent.

It would be tough to cost that formation appropriately with its current requirements. They need to rethink that formation as a whole. The issue with Kunnin Rukk was never its points cost but rather the fact that Arrer Boyz could be included. Not everything can be fixed with points alone.

**motski**

Good to hear there will be new allegiance abilities. It's going to be interesting what the new rules of one are.

**auticus**

You could fix it if you made the formations multipliers of units.

Kunnin rukk archers have 2 issues

1) they are too cheap period even without the formation.
2) the formation effectively doubles their capability, and should thus double the unit's cost.

**Bottle**

I can't wait for this! Looking forward the most to the new Battleplans for Matched and then Narrative. I know my Hurricanum is going up in points so I hope some of my naff units like the Steamtank, Knights and Archers are going down.

**Valander**

Yup. Day one buy (maybe even preorder, though I usually don't do that) for me. Sounds like pulling out the Path to Glory stuff was good to make room for other content, while keeping the size down so the price didn't go crazy.

**Dakka Flakka Flame**

I wonder if they'll condense some of the tiny factions into larger factions? Or is that more likely to be done in Battletomes than in the GHB?

I just got a Start Collecting Malignants box because I thought they looked cool, then to my surprise found out the box actually wasn't all the same faction.

(I'm not super worried about it, since they look cool regardless.)

**Baron Klatz**

I think that's a battletome thing. I expect that to happen when the high aelves and dark aelves get their tome and get organised into four sub-factions each as are on the AoS app.

**NinthMusketeer**

High & Dark Aelves will never get a battletome because High & Dark Aelves do not and have never existed in AoS. At all. There are Aelves of various cultures and professions, and like humans or duardin there are some of better moral standing than others. There is no racial distinction.

**terry**

NinthMusketeer wrote:
So excited for Slaanesh allegiance and hopefully not-broken point costs!

I'm less excited, because I fear this will mean a slaanesh battle tome is further away then I wanted.

**Baron Klatz**

NinthMusketeer730446 9455778 90f12b2ac611d905c7a0947bb2b7b1bd.png wrote:High & Dark Aelves will never get a battletome because High & Dark Aelves do not and have never existed in AoS. At all. There are Aelves of various cultures and professions, and like humans or duardin there are some of better moral standing than others. There is no racial distinction.

I find that a bit pessimistic, if high borne and exile aelves aren't considered opposites anymore then they can still gain a battletome, it'll just likely combine them then.

**auticus**

I doubt they'll be combined. Battletomes are sub sections of an overall race.

**MongooseMatt**

This caught my attention a bit!

We all knew it was coming and I wonder if many of you thought, like me, it was going to be 'just' an update to tweak a few things and keep everything current.

However, looking at the content thus far, I wonder if a new thing might be possible (and this applies to 40k, with the Chapter Approved book)... Every year, we don't just get an update but a revitalisation of the game. I mean, just looking at some of the things included (Allegiance abilities, siege rules, Time of War sheets), that is going to get me back into the game in a big way!

Just need a new set of campaign books now...

**EnTyme**

I fully expect to see tweaks to the various rulesets, maybe even to the core rules, each year.

**Future War Cultist**

I'm super excited about this! I knew it was coming but it's nice to have it confirmed.

So I understand, are they expanding the Allegiance abilities beyond simple Grand Faction abilities? Will the GA abilities remain for allied multi-faction forces? So many questions. I can't wait to find out!

**auticus**

EnTyme wrote:
I fully expect to see tweaks to the various rulesets, maybe even to the core rules, each year.

Per their Warhammer facebook, someone asked if core rules were being changed (they requested the shooting into/out of combat to be changed) and the AOS Account replied there were no core rule changes in the new GHB. Looks like its just points, though perhaps matched play had some tweaks which would affect the core rules.

**earogs29**

Isn't there also supposed to be changes to the rules of one?

**SGrimhart**

All I have to say is SIEGE WARFARE!!!!!! I am so excited for this. We have been playing a seige game at my lgs and been using modified rules for it, so I am stoked to see how AoS puts these rules into effect.

**FrozenDwarf**

Well even tough nighthaunt is still severly lacking models and even more so now that hexwraiths is no longer avalible, i hope my frozty ghosts will be better in ghb2.

**Sal4m4nd3r**

I would really like to see the 40k rule of chargers strike first worked in. Also, if a bunch (or all sub factions) are getting allegiance abilities and artifacts, what point is there for new battletomes..?

**terry**

Sal4m4nd3r wrote:
I would really like to see the 40k rule of chargers strike first worked in. Also, if a bunch (or all sub factions) are getting allegiance abilities and artifacts, what point is there for new battletomes..?

New models, battalions, spells etc

**NinthMusketeer**

FrozenDwarf wrote:
Well even tough nighthaunt is still severly lacking models and even more so now that hexwraiths is no longer avalible, i hope my frozty ghosts will be better in ghb2.

We know skeleton warriors are being reboxed, so presumably black knights are too. Hexwraiths arent going anywhere.

**Mesokhornee**

Personally i cant wait to see peoples reactions when skyfires etc get their points raised to some absurd level and then people realize i can still nuke out almost any unit/hero/monster in 1 turn without them

**NinthMusketeer**

Any random artillery/shooting army can do that.

**Bottle**

Reading the new white dwarf today and there is a deck of cards for 40k open play coming (not maelstrom). I read the descriptions of those previewed and it looked like a real blast (I think I will get it).

It made me think that for AoS, up until now I only saw Open Play as good for multiplayer games (or for total beginners). I hope that the GHBII can have some fun 2 player Open Play rules like these cards for 40k.