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 Melissia wrote:

 Mulletdude wrote:
Stormravens are pretty dang good vs Orks, as they have no reliable shooting that can deal with them.

Anyone tried to assault them with stormboyz yet?

Dakkajets are pretty decent at shooting other flyers down. I've seen a few Kopters with Kill saws go nuts on some as well, but they mainly just weakened them down.

30 stormboyz should be lucky if they give 2-3 wounds to a single stormraven (usually a couple only), they hit on 4+ and wound on 6+, stormraven save at 3+ so the chance to really hurt it is very low. Orks have no really a viable way to deal with multiple stormravens or flyers like that. Dakkajet with 5+ to hit and wound? they do nothing serious.

 blackmage wrote:
30 stormboyz should be lucky if they give 2-3 wounds to a single stormraven (usually a couple only), they hit on 4+ and wound on 6+, stormraven save at 3+ so the chance to really hurt it is very low. Orks have no really a viable way to deal with multiple stormravens or flyers like that. Dakkajet with 5+ to hit and wound? they do nothing serious.

Stormboy still can get a PK nob can't they? Also a 3+ hit, their hard to hit rule only affects the shooting phase.

 ZebioLizard2 wrote:

 blackmage wrote:
30 stormboyz should be lucky if they give 2-3 wounds to a single stormraven (usually a couple only), they hit on 4+ and wound on 6+, stormraven save at 3+ so the chance to really hurt it is very low. Orks have no really a viable way to deal with multiple stormravens or flyers like that. Dakkajet with 5+ to hit and wound? they do nothing serious.

Stormboy still can get a PK nob can't they? Also a 3+ hit, their hard to hit rule only affects the shooting phase.

Here's the maths:
1 Stormraven is equivilent to about 5 units of Stormboyz with a PK Nob, each unit of Stormboyz does about 2.5 wounds each so the 5 units together would do 12.5 wounds to the Stormraven. That isn't too bad but one must remember the Stormraven will be putting out a lot of shots on those Stormboyz before they can get close.

As cc units go, Stormboyz aren't a bad unit and they certainly aren't a bad cc unit for taking down flyers, but I would still think Stormravens would beat Stormboyz in a pure army fight.

Its only the opening ITC results so I am not going to say this is definitive proof of me being right yet again but it at least supports my position.

GW fethed Orkz for yet another edition.

Got a couple games in today.

World eaters v guillimans UM WE win yay

Thousand Sons v tyranids TS win

One more victory for Katherine's Sisters of Battle.

Sisters v. Deathwatch.

Also I witnessed Necrons v. Legion of the Damned a while ago. [I think the Necrons won, unless the Legion pulled off a clutch victory]

Orks vs elder - winner: elder
space wolves vs death guard - winner: death guard
space wolves vs tau - winner space wolves

My last three games

Blood Angels vs Orks - Orks Victory
Blood Angels vs Salamanders - Blood Angels Victory
Blood Angels vs Necrons - Necrons Victory

I played another game today.

Craftworld Eldar vs Tau ------> Craftworld Eldar wins

Updated.

Also added three games I played today: my WE VS his Orks. I won two and lost one. loving WE right now.

4-1 as Imperial Guard.

Victorious against:

Blood Angels
Ultramarines
Chaos Marines x2

Loss against:

Custodes

Of games that I've seen in the local group:

SM 3-1
Necrons 1-0
Orkz 1-2
Death Guard 0-1
Tau 0-1

More to come!

Craftworld Eldar against Tau - Eldar win.

Blood Angels vs Tyranids - Blood Angels Victory

MVP was Furioso Dread w/ Fists. He killed a unit of Hormaguants, a Brood Lord, and 2 Carnifexes.

My record for 8th so far is 2-2. All while playing my Dark Angels.
Game 1: DA vs. Aeldari Craftworlds: DA victory
Game 2: DA vs. DA: My DA loss
Game 3: DA vs. Tyranids: DA victory
Game 4: DA vs. Orks: DA loss

Game 3 hardly counts, as I only won due to a lucky Sieze the Initiative roll. I'd have been crushed very quickly otherwise.

Last fridays games

Emperors children vs imperium= EC win
3 full kitted noise marine squads and a deredeo packs a lot of dakka. I went up against a vanilla marine with some primaris support. The plasma squad nearly one shot my contemptor with only 3 of their guns, Primaris lt got insta gibbed by chaos lord in combat. Game basically came down to if his deep striking terminators managed a charge or not on turn 3.

on the other table
Khorne (lead by angrath) vs eldar= eldar win

Well I finally played my first 8th edition games. Me and my opponent have Space Wolves and Tau. First 2 games I was space wolves. I won both games. Then the next 2 games I was tau and my opponent was space wolves. I lost both games

Summary
Space wolves 4 wins.
Tau 4 losses.

Tau v harlequins, Tau win
Also had two team games that ended in a draw, wish I could have finished them to see where things stand...

 djones520 wrote:

Spoiler:

 Quickjager wrote:

 Marmatag wrote:
Some of these I've played in, some I've spectated. Personally I have done incredibly well in 8th edition, believe it or not. 4/4!

Blood Angels vs Orks; Blood Angels; BA went first
Grey Knights vs Daemons; Grey Knights; GK went first
Ultramarines vs Blood Angels; Ultramarines; BA went first
Ultramarines vs Daemons; Ultramarines; UM went first
Imperial Guard vs Imperial Guard; Imperial Guard; Winner went first
Imperial Guard vs Orks; Imperial Guard; Guard went first
Necrons vs Genestealers; Necrons; Necrons went first.
Dark Angels vs Harlequins; Dark Angels; Dark Angels went first
Dark Angels vs Orks; Orks; Dark Angels went first
Eldar vs Ultramarines; Eldar; Don't know who went first.
Ministorum vs Ultramarines; Ministorum; Don't know who went first.

I'm sure there are a couple i'm forgetting. I've watched quite a few.

There is a guard player at my shop who is just stomping all over people. I want to catch more of his games.

This one?

EDIT: Nvm misread.


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But the random naming conventions for tourney results are annoying me slowly. I saw one where a guy was put down as Militarum Tempestus,, which we all know as IG now. There were a couple others which annoyed me as well.

Yeah, last tournament we had a guy play an Ultramarine army, with the only Ultramarine in it being Guilliman. With the ability to include as many as 6-7 different factions in a single army (looking at you Imperium), it's going to be really hard to just call them a single name.

I mean, the way I'd do it would be to classify them based on the main (ignoring Chaos, Imperium & Aeldari [& Tyranid on GSC units] unless that's the only keyword binding the force together) Faction Keyword shared across the whole army.
So if everyone is a Heretic Astarte, I'd use Heretic Astartes - unless they're one of the 4 subfactions with their own unique units or rules (same for Space Marines, except maybe for Salamanders, Raven Guard, White Scars and both the Imperial & Crimson Fists - or at least until they get their own special rules).

Really it'd be the best way to do it if people want to continue defining tournament results by faction.

Only managed 3 games so far.

Ravenwing vs orks. Ork win, damn they can hit hard with deffdreads, my fault though, bad movement on my behalf.

Deathwing vs death guard: mega easy win, knights are horrific now, knight champion is a beast and good old bobliel with th/ss still rocks

Deathwing vs eldar: hard as hell, but just scrapped a win.

All in all I can see ravenwing took a nerf, which is fine by me, hey we're crazy good in 7th, deathwing took a big buff to me (so many wounds)

Grey Knights vs. AdMech (W)
Grey Knights vs. Heretic Astartes (W)
Grey Knights vs. Crimson Fists (L)
Grey Knights vs. Thousand Sons (W)
Grey Knights vs. Death Guard (W)

So far these are my results (I play solely non-primaris SM's)
Winning army is in Bold.

Marines v Guard (tanks)
Marines v Tau
Marines v Guard (mixed tanks and infantry)
Marines v Demons
Marines v Chaos (Khorne)
Marines v Dark Eldar
Marines v Guard (tanks)
Marines v Primaris

So I'm 8-0 so far in 8th but a number of these were very close games

Of the games I have observed the results I can give you are

Death Guard v Primaris
Necrons v Primaris
Space Wolves v Primaris
Dark Eldar v Chaos (Nurgle)
Guard v Chaos
Chaos (Khorne) v Tau
Mechanicus v Guard (mixed tanks and infantry)
Orks v Chaos (unaligned)

(edit) almost forgot a game between a couple mates I watched the other day.

Death Guard v Dark Angels

This is just a fraction of what has been played in my local meta so far but these are what I have actually watched play out and know the results of.

Out of curiosity, has anyone seen a wholly or almost exclusively Primaris army actually do well?
I have seen them played a number of times now and I have yet to see them perform well as a force without some kind of large scale help from another faction.
I think this is a symptom of their lack of options as of right now but it occurred to me that I have yet to see a predominantly Primaris army win a game.

Nice winstreak. What's your marine army like?

And here come the skilled SM players to hold the newbs and waac-ers to account!

 Melissia wrote:
Nice winstreak. What's your marine army like?

Thanks,
I'm under no illusions though that it will soon be shattered. We have some very good players and strong armies in the group, I think I've just been lucky in a good 3 or 4 of those games.
I have played Guilliman once and what saved me that game was him getting up with 6 wounds, after being slain on turn 3.
I have moved to very aggressive lists in 8th and am mainly using it to play with a lot of stuff that never really saw much game time.
looking at things like Terminators and L/Rs in large numbers and vanguard vets, a number of times being led by Marneus Calgar.
Essentially using a single or 2 L/Rs to push up the field quickly and using the new ability to just chose when to bring in D/S Terminators or vanguard vets to get in and surround my opponent very quickly and pin them back in their half of the board asap while cheap tacticals jump onto objectives behind the main assaulting force. I think the main thing I have found is that if you can get your charges in first and make that multiple charges (ie. 4 or 5 minimum) you can really cripple your opponents ability to hit back in the following turn.
Even with this strategy though I have on a couple of occasions found myself clinging on to an objective with a handful of models to win me a game by a point or two (this was specifically the case against the Guard tank spam and the Khorne player). I will have another 4 games minimum played this week so we'll see how my record holds up.

(edit) Oh and Venerable Dreads with 2+ to hit for BS and WS have proven to be very good so far for me although you really have to make clever use of cover (especially LOS blocking terrain) to get them forward for max effect.

I'm a bit drunk at the moment (but not enough to trust myself to record the new results), I'll try to get the new results posted in the morning.

Played in a tournament. Undefeated lists were T'au, T'au, and AM.

These games are not all me - includes a couple friends.

Grey Knights vs AM - AM victory
Grey Knights vs AM - AM victory
Blood Angels vs AM - AM victory
Grey Knights vs T'au - T'au victory
Grey Knights vs T'au - Grey Knights victory
T'au vs Genestealers - T'au victory
T'au vs Dark Angels - T'au victory
Grey Knights vs Necrons - Grey Knights victory
Chaos Space Marines vs Necrons - Chaos Space Marines victory

The new Forgeworld riptide is the ultimate cheese. You don't need a riptide wing. Now you have 3 FA slots + 1 HQ, the new Riptide Wing.

GK v. Imperial Knight - GK victory
GK v. Necrons - GK victory
GK v. IG - IG victory
GK v. Ultramrine - Draw

 Quickjager wrote:
GK v. Imperial Knight - GK victory
GK v. Necrons - GK victory
GK v. IG - IG victory
GK v. Ultramrine - Draw

Curious about the lists and point value in your GK Knight battle.