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Wait a month or two and their will be a start collecting primaris bundle that will include the captain model for essentially free.

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I really wish the gaming industry would stop marking up HQ models as if rules make them cost more to produce. This guy should cost $5-10 at most. It's pretty sad that the much older Space Marine Commander kit is costs as much or is cheaper than these new mono-pose kits and has a far greater value. I'd just wait until they make a Primaris Veterans kit and kitbash yourself a captain out of that.

The thing is, it costs them about the same amount to produce a plastic HQ as a small infantry kit, since the plastic itself is virtually free and most of the cost is in preparing the molds and developing the model, but they're going to sell far fewer HQ's than they will basic troops, so they charge more.

 Inquisitor Lord Katherine wrote:

 TheCustomLime wrote:
I really wish the gaming industry would stop marking up HQ models as if rules make them cost more to produce. This guy should cost $5-10 at most. It's pretty sad that the much older Space Marine Commander kit is costs as much or is cheaper than these new mono-pose kits and has a far greater value. I'd just wait until they make a Primaris Veterans kit and kitbash yourself a captain out of that.

The thing is, it costs them about the same amount to produce a plastic HQ as a small infantry kit, since the plastic itself is virtually free and most of the cost is in preparing the molds and developing the model, but they're going to sell far fewer HQ's than they will basic troops, so they charge more.

Which is why I think HQ models should be made of metal/resin so you don't get silliness like this. But I see where you are coming from. I would not expect this model to be $4 or whatever but $35 is really pushing it. Especially since the kit is so limited.

It should be $15 US dollars, just like many fantasy character kits still are. Who cares if it's one large sprue, a pair of smaller ones, or just a single smaller one. They are all monopose models with a couple of options for a head and weapons. If they can still sell the standard captain with loads more plastic for less than $25, then the Primaris characters could easily be 20 or less.

Hell, the new easy build Intercessors, Plague Marines, and Reivers are all priced at 15, for god's sake, for three models each, and First Strike is a whole 5 bucks more.

$35 for each of the single SM characters seems a bit ridiculous - partially because of the high price point, but mostly I'm a little surprise by how little you get in a kit so expensive. a single gun, with 1 cosmetic bit alteration? One bare head and one helmeted head? What a ridiculous waste of space on those 2 sprues. They could have thrown in a few extra weapons easily, like a boltstorm gauntlet, and at least some purity seals or other bling to dress him up.

Very poor value for the money.

agreed, they SHOULD have given us more options,

Umbros wrote:


Yes the hero models are expensive - they are that way because they are a luxury purchase (compared to troops choices, for example) which you are likely to buy only one of at most.

However GW have been working very hard to provide lots of affordable products for the market.
Prices haven't been going up - for once.

How many fething lies are you going to put into one post?

Mitochondria wrote:

Umbros wrote:


Yes the hero models are expensive - they are that way because they are a luxury purchase (compared to troops choices, for example) which you are likely to buy only one of at most.

However GW have been working very hard to provide lots of affordable products for the market.
Prices haven't been going up - for once.

How many fething lies are you going to put into one post?

he's not entirely wrong, GW does set a premium on HQs because you typically only buy 1. (we can argue over if thats RIGHT, but thats the case) and yes, GW HAS been trying to provide cheaper alternatives hence the "three tier starter sets" has anything gone up in price since 8th edition launched?

BrianDavion wrote:
has anything gone up in price since 8th edition launched?

Randomly selected boxes of things that have not been updated for years have gone up by about £4 each. Guardians and Windriders are on that list.

It's NOT a question of "Will they" - previous experience has shown that they will, and have, and continue to do so.

But rather a question of "how much"?

They've already got you over their barrel.

Hence why you just don't buy the HQ models. I haven't bought one since 4th edition which is the Necrons Lord and Destroyer Lord (though I did splurge on a Tyberos model at one point). I mostly do that because I'm a hater of bling and capes and stuff.

Seriously, vote with your wallet.

 chromedog wrote:
They've already got you over their barrel.

"Pucker up, Buttercup"

 Ouze wrote:
$35 for each of the single SM characters seems a bit ridiculous - partially because of the high price point, but mostly I'm a little surprise by how little you get in a kit so expensive. a single gun, with 1 cosmetic bit alteration? One bare head and one helmeted head? What a ridiculous waste of space on those 2 sprues. They could have thrown in a few extra weapons easily, like a boltstorm gauntlet, and at least some purity seals or other bling to dress him up.

Very poor value for the money.

No, you don't understand. You can also change the sword for a pointing arm too! Such extra added value! You can also switch which way you put on the shoulderpads! That's at least 8 different variations! Wow, think of all of the possibilities! And if you pay more you can also put on different shoulders! Frankly, I think GW is giving us a steal.

 TheCustomLime wrote:

 Ouze wrote:
$35 for each of the single SM characters seems a bit ridiculous - partially because of the high price point, but mostly I'm a little surprise by how little you get in a kit so expensive. a single gun, with 1 cosmetic bit alteration? One bare head and one helmeted head? What a ridiculous waste of space on those 2 sprues. They could have thrown in a few extra weapons easily, like a boltstorm gauntlet, and at least some purity seals or other bling to dress him up.

Very poor value for the money.

No, you don't understand. You can also change the sword for a pointing arm too! Such extra added value! You can also switch which way you put on the shoulderpads! That's at least 8 different variations! Wow, think of all of the possibilities! And if you pay more you can also put on different shoulders! Frankly, I think GW is giving us a steal.

you owe me a new monitor, I spat Pepsi on mine, you bastard

I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Look at this gullible white knight fanboy everyone!

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

I know you think GWS is pretty, but she won't sleep with you no matter how much you defend her on the internet


Calling something a "luxury" product isn't some magical spackle that covers up every issue with pointing out the lack of value in a product. As I said, my beef isn't necessarily with the price point per se, so much as how little they give you for said $35. It's a really poor value IMO.

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Let me explain the failure of logic you have presented, through the medium of analogy:

> Billionaires like to live in large houses
> Such houses cost millions of pounds
> Billionaire goes to an estate agent and is offered a house for £15,000,000
> £15,000,000 is well within his budget, and is lower than the price point he was expecting
> On investigation, this house is a 2 bed 1 bath terraced house in an impoverished area of London.
> "Oh, I'm sorry houses cost money. Maybe you should try living in a cardboard box."

The Billionaire is not going to buy that house, not because it is too expensive, but because the value for money is terrible.

Same damn thing here.

 Selym wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Let me explain the failure of logic you have presented, through the medium of analogy:

> Billionaires like to live in large houses
> Such houses cost millions of pounds
> Billionaire goes to an estate agent and is offered a house for £15,000,000
> £15,000,000 is well within his budget, and is lower than the price point he was expecting
> On investigation, this house is a 2 bed 1 bath terraced house in an impoverished area of London.
> "Oh, I'm sorry houses cost money. Maybe you should try living in a cardboard box."

The Billionaire is not going to buy that house, not because it is too expensive, but because the value for money is terrible.

Same damn thing here.

You're right. A luxary item that is $20 over priced is the sam exact thing as a house that is several million dollars over priced /sarcasm


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Mitochondria wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Look at this gullible white knight fanboy everyone!

GW could be giving free gold away to everyone and you'd still think GW is extorting players for money

 Selym wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Let me explain the failure of logic you have presented, through the medium of analogy:

> Billionaires like to live in large houses
> Such houses cost millions of pounds
> Billionaire goes to an estate agent and is offered a house for £15,000,000
> £15,000,000 is well within his budget, and is lower than the price point he was expecting
> On investigation, this house is a 2 bed 1 bath terraced house in an impoverished area of London.
> "Oh, I'm sorry houses cost money. Maybe you should try living in a cardboard box."

The Billionaire is not going to buy that house, not because it is too expensive, but because the value for money is terrible.

Same damn thing here.

... clearly you're never been to Vancouver

BrianDavion wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Let me explain the failure of logic you have presented, through the medium of analogy:

> Billionaires like to live in large houses
> Such houses cost millions of pounds
> Billionaire goes to an estate agent and is offered a house for £15,000,000
> £15,000,000 is well within his budget, and is lower than the price point he was expecting
> On investigation, this house is a 2 bed 1 bath terraced house in an impoverished area of London.
> "Oh, I'm sorry houses cost money. Maybe you should try living in a cardboard box."

The Billionaire is not going to buy that house, not because it is too expensive, but because the value for money is terrible.

Same damn thing here.

... clearly you're never been to Vancouver

I don't need to I live in San Diego

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Let me explain the failure of logic you have presented, through the medium of analogy:

> Billionaires like to live in large houses
> Such houses cost millions of pounds
> Billionaire goes to an estate agent and is offered a house for £15,000,000
> £15,000,000 is well within his budget, and is lower than the price point he was expecting
> On investigation, this house is a 2 bed 1 bath terraced house in an impoverished area of London.
> "Oh, I'm sorry houses cost money. Maybe you should try living in a cardboard box."

The Billionaire is not going to buy that house, not because it is too expensive, but because the value for money is terrible.

Same damn thing here.

You're right. A luxary item that is $20 over priced is the sam exact thing as a house that is several million dollars over priced /sarcasm

"Hey, look! This is idiot thinks that I'm wrong, but he's wrong because he didn't use exactly the same numbers as I was talking about!!!!!11!!"

Really? You think the argument is irrelevant because I used a different scale to better point out your flawed argument?

Fething white knights.

 Selym wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Selym wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
I'm sorry that your luxury hobby costs money guys. If you can't afford 35 USD then maybe you should look at cheaper hobbies like having a pet rock

Let me explain the failure of logic you have presented, through the medium of analogy:

> Billionaires like to live in large houses
> Such houses cost millions of pounds
> Billionaire goes to an estate agent and is offered a house for £15,000,000
> £15,000,000 is well within his budget, and is lower than the price point he was expecting
> On investigation, this house is a 2 bed 1 bath terraced house in an impoverished area of London.
> "Oh, I'm sorry houses cost money. Maybe you should try living in a cardboard box."

The Billionaire is not going to buy that house, not because it is too expensive, but because the value for money is terrible.

Same damn thing here.

You're right. A luxary item that is $20 over priced is the sam exact thing as a house that is several million dollars over priced /sarcasm

"Hey, look! This is idiot thinks that I'm wrong, but he's wrong because he didn't use exactly the same numbers as I was talking about!!!!!11!!"

Really? You think the argument is irrelevant because I used a different scale to better point out your flawed argument?

Fething white knights.

CrownAxe is one of the last people I would call a White Knight on this forum. They simply disagree with you and are actually correct, anyway.

No chance in hell I would buy that for that price.

I can buy a Land Raider on Ebay for less.

I think we've engaged enough on the "pay up or get a pet rock" point of view, let's leave it by the wayside now thanks

 chromedog wrote:
It's NOT a question of "Will they" - previous experience has shown that they will, and have, and continue to do so.

But rather a question of "how much"?

They've already got you over their barrel.

Would of been true in the early 2000 but these days they arnt the only game in town.

Not going to buy it. I never understood Marines with brooms on their head.
Silly Caesar Smurfs.

I don't mind the price that much. I have a decent amount of disposable income to spend on this hobby and the miniatures are becoming better and better.

I dunno I find the price on the HQs to be a bit over the top, but pretending like we're still in the worst days of GW is nonsense. Dark Imperium is a tremendous value. The new starter kits are decent (though I'm pretty cheesed about the 3 man squad one). The start collecting kits are good values.

Darkagl1 wrote:
I dunno I find the price on the HQs to be a bit over the top, but pretending like we're still in the worst days of GW is nonsense. Dark Imperium is a tremendous value. The new starter kits are decent (though I'm pretty cheesed about the 3 man squad one). The start collecting kits are good values.

Yeah I agree. As long as they make boxes with tremendous value like Dark Imperium, the Start Collecting boxes etc. the basis for most armies is pretty doable. You pay a bit more for single models that sell less and that have more detail.

Okay, I have spent years getting GW models and feeling the various release costs.
The Captain gave me serious pause.
Possibly a "what the heck??" moment.
$60 Canadian for that wee little model.


Or get a "Death Dealer" 1/10th scale model for pretty much the same price at Mega Hobby?

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10463529/20/2
https://www.megahobby.com/products/frazetta-death-dealer-warrior-w-horse-1-10-moebius.html
About 25cm tall.

I do not even want to get into tanks I see out there with photo-etch parts, turned barrels, and resin detail elements for less.

All I can say, is that it makes GW pretty bold with their new model pricing when they think they have a captive audience in the 40k ecosystem and it is new models.
A scale change absolutely ensures their old product is not competing with the new.
I swear every time they make a new mold some accountant says "ouch!" and wants the tooling break-even point within a month and adjusts model pricing accordingly.

Like many others have said, I would give that guy a pass.
I think I would buy a Lord of Skulls (locally around $140) before getting that guy just for the size / detail / value difference.