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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 19:53:39
Subject: Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Been Around the Block
Doylestown, PA
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I see there is 2 Daemon Princes. Both are the same price (146/170 wings) but have different stats.
Page 21 - Daemon Prince
Faction Keywords = Chaos, Heretic Astartes, <Legion> (& Daemonic Allegiance)
Keywords = Character, Monster, Daemon, Daemon Prince
Power Level 10
Wounds 8
Leadership 10
5+ Invulnerable Save
Death to False Emperor
Dark Heretic Discipline
Page 105 - Daemon Prince of Chaos
Factions Keywords = Chaos, Daemon (& Daemonic Allegiance)
Keywords = Character, Monster, Daemon Prince of Chaos
Power Level 11
Wounds 10
Leadership 9
No Invulnerable save
Daemonic, Daemonic Ritual
Chaos Daemon Discipline
I have the kit and not sure which to build, working on Nurgle army.
Is one better then the other?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 20:00:48
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Lieutenant General
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The first will most likely synergize better with Chaos Space Marine while the second will most likely synergize better with Chaos Daemons.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/04 20:01:06
'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 20:09:43
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Ferocious Black Templar Castellan
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The second one does have a 5+ invulnerable save by virtue of being Demonic, and now also has 8 wounds due to the recent FAQ.
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For thirteen years I had a dog with fur the darkest black. For thirteen years he was my friend, oh how I want him back. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 20:11:07
Subject: Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
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MightyQue wrote:I see there is 2 Daemon Princes. Both are the same price (146/170 wings) but have different stats.
Page 21 - Daemon Prince
Faction Keywords = Chaos, Heretic Astartes, <Legion> (& Daemonic Allegiance)
Keywords = Character, Monster, Daemon, Daemon Prince
Power Level 10
Wounds 8
Leadership 10
5+ Invulnerable Save
Death to False Emperor
Dark Heretic Discipline
Page 105 - Daemon Prince of Chaos
Factions Keywords = Chaos, Daemon (& Daemonic Allegiance)
Keywords = Character, Monster, Daemon Prince of Chaos
Power Level 11
Wounds 10
Leadership 9
No Invulnerable save
Daemonic, Daemonic Ritual
Chaos Daemon Discipline
I have the kit and not sure which to build, working on Nurgle army.
Is one better then the other?
You seem to have missed something important; The 'Daemonic' special rule gives a 5++, so both types of prince do have an invuln. Also, the Daemon Prince of Chaos got FAQed down to 8 wounds.
Generally, I think the Daemon Prince of Chaos is a much better choice, though that is dependent on what you are using it for. The CSM version buffs both Chaos Marines AND Daemons, as long as the Daemons match their god alignment, but the Chaos version only buffs Daemons. However, the Chaos version gets the various Daemon abilities - a 4+ invuln, 5+ FNP, autofirsthit, or souped up Furious Charge.
So are you gonna use it as a tanky beatstick, or as a semi-good beatstick that also buffs your army?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 20:26:02
Subject: Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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also if the Daemon Prince of Chaos is your warlord and dedicated to Nurgle, it has 8 wounds, 5+ Invuln, 5+ FNP and 6+ FNP, all cumulative
Sucks about the FAQ though
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 20:27:50
Subject: Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Here are your two options: take the Daemon version, take advantage of daemon allignment rules and get re-rolls for your Daemon units or take the Heretic Astartes version, lose out on the Daemonic allignment rule but gain re-rolls for your CSM units.
So here are the questions:
Are you taking any Heretic Astartes units? If no take the Daemon version, if yes move to the next question.
Are you taking multiple Lords/Apostles anyway? If yes take the Daemon version, if no then move to next question (but why aren't you taking multiple Lords?).
Do you need the re-rolls to hit? If yes take the Heretic Astartes version, if no then you are lying to yourself. Automatically Appended Next Post:
Why? Now the Daemon version can't be targeted when bubble wrapped/behind chaff.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/04 20:28:35
Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 21:30:06
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Been Around the Block
Doylestown, PA
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Where is the FAQ, not seeing it on GW Site ?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 21:46:21
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Potent Possessed Daemonvessel
Why Aye Ya Canny Dakkanaughts!
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Ghorros wrote:The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
Marmatag wrote:All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/04 21:47:03
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/07/05 03:07:45
Subject: Re:Daemon Prince / Daemon Prince of Chaos
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Been Around the Block
Doylestown, PA
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Thanks
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