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Sorry if this is the wrong spot, but just coming back after 3 editions out of the game and I was wondering if havocs are worth it over other heavy support? Building up a nurgle army and I have a box of normal CSM and 8 IG missle launchers so I was wondering if it'd be worth it to convert them into havocs or maybe plague marines

I'd make them havocs. The current havoc kit is finecast crap that only gives you 1 HB, 1ML, 1 AC, and 1 LC. For plague marines just buy the Dark Imperium ones.

You might also want to wait until the deathguard codex comes out, and see if they can even take Havocks/see how good Marines are for them etc.

jcd386 wrote:
You might also want to wait until the deathguard codex comes out, and see if they can even take Havocks/see how good Marines are for them etc.

this, right now death guard actually can't take havocs IIRC. presumaly they'll get some sort of "totally not havoc" kit.

 BewareOfTom wrote:
Sorry if this is the wrong spot, but just coming back after 3 editions out of the game and I was wondering if havocs are worth it over other heavy support? Building up a nurgle army and I have a box of normal CSM and 8 IG missle launchers so I was wondering if it'd be worth it to convert them into havocs or maybe plague marines

I'd wait for the proper codex. Also missile launchers are extremely point heavy and... not very good. A lascannon is the same cost and more effective against most targets, including many types of infantry.

I actually like missile launchers but yeah you do want some las in the last somewhere.

BrianDavion wrote:

jcd386 wrote:
You might also want to wait until the deathguard codex comes out, and see if they can even take Havocks/see how good Marines are for them etc.

this, right now death guard actually can't take havocs IIRC. presumaly they'll get some sort of "totally not havoc" kit.

Possibly, but possibly not. Thousand Sons can't take Havocs and we didn't get any equivalent replacement, unless you count going out of faction for Exalted Flamers.

Voss wrote:

I'd wait for the proper codex. Also missile launchers are extremely point heavy and... not very good. A lascannon is the same cost and more effective against most targets, including many types of infantry.

I did analysis on havoc weaponry and my conclusion was that missile launcher is all around best choice. It is same price as lascannon and inferior to it against heavy targets, but not by much. The best part about missile launcher is ability to use frag if needed, allowing the squad to work as anti-horde. My opinion is that Missile launcher is best choice for TAC list.
Autocannon would be IMO best choice if it had AP -2 but cant have everything

Very heavy vehicles are easier to handle in CC or with meltaguns, Lascannons are sub par to those. And this is mostly because their damage output is very random. Also CCing those heavy vehicles is recommended as most of them cannot flee cc and shoot during the same turn.