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Made in es
Power-Hungry Cultist of Tzeentch




Spain

This model has a specific clarification on the latest Chaos FAQ, but I still have some serious doubts concerning the three optional blue horrorso
· Do the three horros go on their own bases (as it is shown on GW box) or inside the chariot? (I think this confussion comes with the AOS rules, since the model can be used in both games)
· If the horrors go on their own bases, do they need to stay in coherency with the chariot? Since the movement value is different, does this mean that the chariot must move only 6"?
· If the horrors go in the chariot, does this mean that the Herald now has three extra wounds? Do the blue horrors receive the damage before the Herald of Tzeentch does or are they part of the chariot the same way the Screamers are?
· Do the horrors attack? Or their only function is to activate the irritating chant?
· If the blue horrors can be targeted and killed... do you need to lose all three of them to lose Irritating Chant?

Honestly, lot of doubts regarding this unit and FAQ only addressed a few of them (like the Herald still being considered a character that cannot be targeted with the extra wounds)

Thanks in advance for the answers!
   
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald





I' don't see any clarification on the FAQ about this
   
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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

As far as I can tell, they're just an upgrade and not really any different than a hunter-killer missile on a Rhino.

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Gun Mage





Yeah, I think they just give it that extra ability. They don't go on separate bases, change stats, do attacks, or anything like that.
   
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Been Around the Block




Then I would add to that, what is the point cost for the upgrade?

Is it 15 points? Seems pretty pricey if all you get is Chant for that.
   
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Lieutenant General





Florence, KY

AverageBoss wrote:
Then I would add to that, what is the point cost for the upgrade?

Is it 15 points? Seems pretty pricey if all you get is Chant for that.

Why are you using the price of three Blue Horrors in the Horrors unit as the price of the upgrade?

'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Dakka Veteran




 Ghaz wrote:
AverageBoss wrote:
Then I would add to that, what is the point cost for the upgrade?

Is it 15 points? Seems pretty pricey if all you get is Chant for that.

Why are you using the price of three Blue Horrors in the Horrors unit as the price of the upgrade?

I think because it's the closest thing to matching the wargear upgrade description.

IMO, until GW releases a faq about it, it is not a legal choice as we can't pay appropriate points for it.

I would have almost be tempted to say it's free as the header for model costs indicate that wargear is included, but we have counter examples with the icons having a points cost, and therefore that wargear is not included in the models cost despite the header.
   
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Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

There is no points cost for the upgrade. All Daemon units except for Princes are listed as "Including Wargear" in their points cost.

   
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Been Around the Block




 Galef wrote:
There is no points cost for the upgrade. All Daemon units except for Princes are listed as "Including Wargear" in their points cost.


That would only be your basic wargear. Otherwise there would be no point to the Other Wargear box that gives point values for Icons, Instruments (which are free for Heretic Astartes but 10 points for Demon units), Rod of Sorcery, and Staff of Change.
   
 
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