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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard






Peoria IL

http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/07/new-plague-marine-datasheet-revealed.html?m=1

Sadly the more clear one is error ridden

Ok. Lol. This is clearly from the quick play kit and was not proofread. Errors...
1) Heavy bolt pistols have -1AP combat blades don't
2) This unit has no transport and can't infiltrate or late deploy
3) Ultramarines only? So now Guilliman made his own Nightlords?!

Though... shut off overwatch and -1 to rolls is awesome. Tau/Guard hunters (devil)

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on the forum. Obviously

Pretty sure combat blades aren't supposed to have a modifier, and that the ultramarine keyword is just a simplication for the purposes of quick play. They are not errors. Ditto for the lack of a transport option or infilrate.

Heavy Bolt pistols are meant to have the modifier, as they are heavy bolt pistols. If they didn't have the modifier, they'd just be bolt pistols.
The combat blades with the -1 modifier is an error.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/13 16:18:31


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Transport options are not on the units cards

its on the transports them selves iirc.

Regardless of errors its very inconsistent one way or another.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Peoria IL

I know transport options aren't on the datacards (seriously), my point is that everything has pointed to this being an ambush unit and as of right now it's datacard gives it no way to "not deep strike" nor can it forward deploy nor do we know of a scout like transport option for it (hoping it's not just supposed to ride in the Primaris Bradley Fighting Hover Vehicle).

I'm assuming, maybe errantly, that it'll get some sort of datasheet ability that will let it do the 9" approach deploy. Maybe not.

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Honestly I've only been seeing them as a Force multiplier like so much else in the Primaris subsection. The only thing that hints at them being scouts is assumptions based on their armor, but the fluff is them being a terror troop, correct? Sprinkle some in with your other units and let their abilities do the punching while your actual units deal damage. We will get transports in the codex most likely and all they would need is a ten man transport for an Intercessor, Riever squad, Lieutenant and Captain and you suddenly got an annoying bunch of mutual buff units that you shouldn't take because of points costs and complicated gimmicks. But I mean, it could be a thing that almost works.
   
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 SharkoutofWata wrote:
Honestly I've only been seeing them as a Force multiplier like so much else in the Primaris subsection. The only thing that hints at them being scouts is assumptions based on their armor, but the fluff is them being a terror troop, correct? Sprinkle some in with your other units and let their abilities do the punching while your actual units deal damage. We will get transports in the codex most likely and all they would need is a ten man transport for an Intercessor, Riever squad, Lieutenant and Captain and you suddenly got an annoying bunch of mutual buff units that you shouldn't take because of points costs and complicated gimmicks. But I mean, it could be a thing that almost works.


Good points all around

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Note: Records since 2010, lists kept current (W-D-L) Blue DP Crusade 126-11-6 Biel-Tan Aspect Waves 2-0-2 Looted Green Horde smash your face in 32-7-8 Broadside/Shield Drone/Kroot blitz goodness 23-3-4 Grey Hunters galore 17-5-5 Khan Bikes Win 63-1-1 Tanith with Pardus Armor 11-0-0 Crimson Tide 59-4-0 Green/Raven/Deathwing 18-0-0 Jumping GK force with Inq. 4-0-0 BTemplars w LRs 7-1-2 IH Legion with Automata 8-0-0 RG Legion w Adepticon medal 6-0-0 Primaris and Little Buddies 7-0-0

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One Page 40k Ruleset for Game Beginners 
   
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Given these rules are literally just for usage in the 1-2 weeks between this release and the new codex, I doubt they worried about getting everything totally correct, and probably just kept things simple.
   
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 Lobukia wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/07/new-plague-marine-datasheet-revealed.html?m=1

Sadly the more clear one is error ridden

Ok. Lol. This is clearly from the quick play kit and was not proofread. Errors...
1) Heavy bolt pistols have -1AP combat blades don't
2) This unit has no transport and can't infiltrate or late deploy
3) Ultramarines only? So now Guilliman made his own Nightlords?!

Though... shut off overwatch and -1 to rolls is awesome. Tau/Guard hunters (devil)

What do you guys mean the heavy bolt pistol have -1 ap? The sheet I saw from the 3 man box has 0 AP for them. They were literally identical to a bolt pistol.

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Hmm, Ultramarines only. That's going to be a fun surprise for some of the people who bought these.

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on the forum. Obviously

 MrMoustaffa wrote:
 Lobukia wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.com/2017/07/new-plague-marine-datasheet-revealed.html?m=1

Sadly the more clear one is error ridden

Ok. Lol. This is clearly from the quick play kit and was not proofread. Errors...
1) Heavy bolt pistols have -1AP combat blades don't
2) This unit has no transport and can't infiltrate or late deploy
3) Ultramarines only? So now Guilliman made his own Nightlords?!

Though... shut off overwatch and -1 to rolls is awesome. Tau/Guard hunters (devil)

What do you guys mean the heavy bolt pistol have -1 ap? The sheet I saw from the 3 man box has 0 AP for them. They were literally identical to a bolt pistol.


There's another sheet where the heavy bolter pistols have -1 ap. Which is probably the right version, because other wise they'd just be bolt pistols.

What I have
~4100
~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

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 Egyptian Space Zombie wrote:
Hmm, Ultramarines only. That's going to be a fun surprise for some of the people who bought these.


I'm guessing a few ignore that restriction on there use.

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the ultramarines thing is assumed to be a simplication as these quickbuild things are for newbies I'd not over think it

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BrianDavion wrote:
I'd not over think it


I think that's the jervis design ethors heh

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BrianDavion wrote:
the ultramarines thing is assumed to be a simplication as these quickbuild things are for newbies I'd not over think it
Tell that to the new primarus librarian kit with ONLY smurf decals.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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on the forum. Obviously

 Desubot wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
the ultramarines thing is assumed to be a simplication as these quickbuild things are for newbies I'd not over think it
Tell that to the new primarus librarian kit with ONLY smurf decals.



Is it really built into the model though?
Also, is it a starter model?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2017/07/13 19:24:55


What I have
~4100
~1660

Westwood lives in death!
Peace through power!

A longbeard when it comes to Necrons and WHFB. Grumble Grumble

 
   
Made in us
Legendary Master of the Chapter






 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Desubot wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
the ultramarines thing is assumed to be a simplication as these quickbuild things are for newbies I'd not over think it
Tell that to the new primarus librarian kit with ONLY smurf decals.



Is it really built into the model though?
Also, is it a starter model?


Na. But i am salty

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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 Desubot wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
the ultramarines thing is assumed to be a simplication as these quickbuild things are for newbies I'd not over think it
Tell that to the new primarus librarian kit with ONLY smurf decals.


Have you not noticed that regular Marines only come with Ultramarine decals now?
   
 
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