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Personally Mordians and Praetorians are what I'd like to see in plastic. I don't like Vostroyans. It is a shame that Valhallans dont have plastic, they were actually the first guard regiment created by GW.

I'd much rather see something akin to this become the standard fare for Guard.

http://orig05.deviantart.net/5231/f/2009/012/0/d/imperial_guard_stormtrooper_by_robban_o.jpg

Or something like that, I quite like the new Scions, but I wouldn't spit on something tacticool, either

 Bobthehero wrote:


Or something like that, I quite like the new Scions, but I wouldn't spit on something tacticool, either

The whole point that I've tried to drive home, in regards to a "new Imperial Army" is that we'd likely see an entire range revamp from the ground up.

New infantry, new heavy weapons, maybe even a new set-up for how our officers and their ilk are designed to function.

I think that the Scions, as a faction, could be left with the more ornate look to tie them as kind of a halfway point between the Officio Prefectus and the Astra Militarum at large.

The whole point that I've tried to drive home, in regards to a "new Imperial Army" is that we'd likely see an entire range revamp from the ground up.

New infantry, new heavy weapons, maybe even a new set-up for how our officers and their ilk are designed to function.

I think that the Scions, as a faction, could be left with the more ornate look to tie them as kind of a halfway point between the Officio Prefectus and the Astra Militarum at large.

I sure hope you're right! Would for sure get me fully committed to a guard army again; just can't stomach to paint any more Cadian bobble-heads from the current range.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:


Or something like that, I quite like the new Scions, but I wouldn't spit on something tacticool, either

The whole point that I've tried to drive home, in regards to a "new Imperial Army" is that we'd likely see an entire range revamp from the ground up.

New infantry, new heavy weapons, maybe even a new set-up for how our officers and their ilk are designed to function.

I think that the Scions, as a faction, could be left with the more ornate look to tie them as kind of a halfway point between the Officio Prefectus and the Astra Militarum at large.

I can't stomach that pic, looks too much like a Scion.

I want rules for creating your own regiment, including custom characters. I have modeled my guard on Cadians with custom heads and some weapons, but I have to run them as Cadians by the rules.

Also, they need to pick at least a few regiments and offer new plastic kits. IG has received so little attention there is no need to start over from scratch. Plenty of room to grow as is.

 NenkotaMoon wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Bobthehero wrote:

Or something like that, I quite like the new Scions, but I wouldn't spit on something tacticool, either

The whole point that I've tried to drive home, in regards to a "new Imperial Army" is that we'd likely see an entire range revamp from the ground up.

New infantry, new heavy weapons, maybe even a new set-up for how our officers and their ilk are designed to function.

I think that the Scions, as a faction, could be left with the more ornate look to tie them as kind of a halfway point between the Officio Prefectus and the Astra Militarum at large.

I can't stomach that pic, looks too much like a Scion.

It is, but remove the faceplate, the tubing and tweak the backpack a bit, and it would make for a very fine Guardsman, I think.

Eh, too busy if you ask me. I like the relatively simple uniforms that standard guardsmen tend to have.

 ross-128 wrote:
Eh, too busy if you ask me. I like the relatively simple uniforms that standard guardsmen tend to have.

Same, way too busy and too digging into the Scion look, a look I don't care for.

 Future War Cultist wrote:
Catch 22. The IG aren't supported as well as they could be miniature wise and so don't sell well. This prompts gw to think that people aren't interested in them and thus pull back on fully supporting them. That's my theory anyway.

And I think it'll be an all new regiment.

This is correct. Its the same for Sisters of Battle, Dark Eldar & many other armies. It should come as no surprise to anyone, that when entire armies are ignored for decades that they will not be popular as space marines. Supposedly the "New GW" is different, but that remains to be seen. Almost every release has been space marines. For an IP that is as vast & interesting as 40K is, GW goes out of its way to ignore most of the setting.

Edit: Also, choosing Catachans as one of the primary regiments to stock in stores? Who's brilliant idea was that? I love Catachans don't get me wrong, but "imo" they are the hardest army to paint in all of 40k. All skin, human so naturally everyone is going to be more critical of the paint job because they reference real life, need to add things like scars/tattoos. Its an absolute nightmare for new players getting into the hobby. I was interested in Catachan & chose Steel Legion instead largely because of how easy it is to paint them. Almost all trench coat, no skin.

Maybe it's time for forge world to step up to the mark. A lot of the things they make have now transferred to plastic. They should look for a new line. I think they could make models for those classic regiments who can't be supported in plastic. They kind of already do for the Tallarns, though not enough to make a full army. Not to mention extra Cadian bits. And the resin would probably work out even better for them detail wise.

Imagine forge world quality Catachans, Tallarns, Vahallans and Mordians in addition to the death korps and Elysians? It would be beautiful!

But again, if there could be only one plastic regiment I'd vote vostroyians. They're probably the most 40kish IG there is. I was blown away by them when they were first released. The only thing stopping me collecting them is the incomplete metal range. You can keep the cadians in plastic because they have an (almost) full range. Just push them gently into the background like old marines.

 MarsNZ wrote:

 Strg Alt wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
Human bombs aren't coming back. Get over it.

Jesus Christ! Human bombs are the weapons of terrorists which are showcased in the news on a monthly basis. It´s appalling that somebody would even think about this as a feature in a tabletop game.

Really? There's a faction that exists by abducting, enslaving and sadistic torture and you're going to get triggered by a suicide bomber? You know what else is in the news constantly? Air strikes on civilians. Is the existence of flyers in the game `problematic` as well?

On the topic at hand: Guardswomen. The meat grinder is an equal opportunity employer and this has never been properly reflected in the model line. Don't bling them out like every other ridiculous new release. Don't make them sluzzy fantasy soldier girls.

40K is a wargame with emphasis on game. There is no blood, mutilations or deaths invioved. Models are simply removed from play and are ready to go for the next battle which are fought between two military forces.
Suicide bombers on the other hand are not deployed by the military. They are used against civilians to sow terror and would drag the carefree gaming experience with their very existence into the mud.
Do you really think GW would sell models of bearded human bombs with wicked smiles on their faces? I guess not. Would mommy buy them for little Timmy? Nope! GW will never sell such stupid gak.
And if they did which Imperial Guard regiment should deploy them? It´an utterly barabric tactic.

This human bomb topic can also be applied to all other alien races. Would it be okay, if grots were deployed as human bombs? No, they are still humanoids and as such can be related to. In 3rd grots were used to clear minefields by running into them. This might sound at first like a hilarious Tom & Jerry or Road Runner cartoon but when you see this scene in John Rambo (2008) you are appalled by it. Nobody was surprised when GW deleted this special rule in the following ork codex.

The Dark Eldar models just fight like all other models on the battlefield. The aforementioned atrocities are only hinted at in the codex. You don´t see any illustrations in the book that depict these horrible scenes either. Remember, this game is for twelve year olds. But these space pirates would cross the line, if you are modelling them to show off scenes of executions, rape, mutilations, torture and other vile stuff. Nobody would play against you with such a ghastly collection of minis. Other horrible stuff would be Imperial Guard covered in swastikas. This is simply a no-go.

The rules don´t allow flyers to crash into towers and as such they are fine.

Air strikes are a common military tactic against military targets. They are only the center of public outrage when used against civilians and these incidents are pretty uncommon today. Terrorists don´t have access to expensive military hardware and as such airstrikes don´t pose a problem at all as they don´t have a bad reputation.
No civilians are bombed in 40K. Again, GW would never allow such a thing to happen on the tabletop.

I would like to see what this is:



From the rumour engine today.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/26/rumour-engine-july-26th-2017/

Primaris lasgun, that is S4.

 Aenarian wrote:
I would like to see what this is:



From the rumour engine today.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/26/rumour-engine-july-26th-2017/

It's this:


This art's been floating around for a bit from the most recent Imperial Knights book.

 Aenarian wrote:
I would like to see what this is:



From the rumour engine today.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/26/rumour-engine-july-26th-2017/

A Lascannon gun.

A man can dream that it's not a darn lascannon for the Space Marines, can't he?

Yes, you are permitted to dream, as long as you ignore the fact that it is likely for a new kind of Space Marine that has Lasguns.

No kidding. It'll be Space Marine, and they'll have "The Hottest Shot" lasguns at Rapid Fire d3 Str 5 AP0 D2.

 Unit1126PLL wrote:
No kidding. It'll be Space Marine, and they'll have "The Hottest Shot" lasguns at Rapid Fire d3 Str 5 AP0 D2.

Clearly if it's based on hot-shots, the Space Marine version would also be AP-3 and a 36" range.

I sincerely hope that's the first glimpse of a new regiment. It seems to be a remake of the classic Ryza pattern lasgun.

A new regiment when they barely support the ones they have now.

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aenarian wrote:
I would like to see what this is:

https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/July26RumourEngine.jpg

From the rumour engine today.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/26/rumour-engine-july-26th-2017/

It's this:
https://regimentalstandard.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/winter.jpg?w=760

This art's been floating around for a bit from the most recent Imperial Knights book.

Smells like Primaris Guard(tm) for me !

 NenkotaMoon wrote:
A new regiment when they barely support the ones they have now.

They're Primaris Guardsmen. They're super well trained, and have genetic manipulation and cybernetics to make themselves larger. They also wear heavier armor than regular humans normally do. I hear they're going to be organized into regiments of a thousand strong.

 AtoMaki wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Aenarian wrote:
I would like to see what this is:

https://17890-presscdn-0-51-pagely.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/07/July26RumourEngine.jpg

From the rumour engine today.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/07/26/rumour-engine-july-26th-2017/

It's this:
https://regimentalstandard.files.wordpress.com/2016/11/winter.jpg?w=760

This art's been floating around for a bit from the most recent Imperial Knights book.

Smells like Primaris Guard(tm) for me !

They look like Cadians done right! I'd be cool with them!

EDIT: having said that, I wa hoping they'd go further.

Am I the only only that gets a Scion/Kasrkin feel from those guys?

Possibly yes.

I could see that, though I'd be VERY surprised, since they redid Tempestus like, yesterday.

Vox casters that make orders unlimited range if the receiving unit has one as well. If they can communicate with a ship in orbit they can surely give orders anywhere on the relatively small battlefield represented by a 6x4.