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The only way I'd approve of an "Imperial Agents" book is if GW actually gave us something new to play with instead of just vomiting out the same crap they've been giving us since 2nd edition. Almost by definition, being stuffed in to an "Imperial Agents" book would preclude us getting anything new, as it has numerous times.

Grey Knights

1 fast attack choice only

4 total ranged weapon options (psilencer, psycannon, incinerator, storm bolter), with nothing reaching more than 24"

Everything tailored around deep strike, but 50% requirement really hurts this army badly.

I would honestly take the rulesets for Ministorum, Sisters of Battle, and Grey Knights, combine them all into "Defenders of the Imperium" faction.

There isn't enough variety in those 3 armies. Although Sisters and Ministorum are really good right now.

Rak'Gol or Megarachnids

I love my Space Marines but I would love to see a whole new Xenos introduced. Megarachnids are akin to Nids for unit prospects... but the 8 feet Lizard/reptilian 4 legged monsters with tails and mechanic limbs would make a great model.

 Melissia wrote:
The only way I'd approve of an "Imperial Agents" book is if GW actually gave us something new to play with instead of just vomiting out the same crap they've been giving us since 2nd edition. Almost by definition, being stuffed in to an "Imperial Agents" book would preclude us getting anything new, as it has numerous times.

Usually it means not just not getting anything new, but losing options.

An Imperial Agents format would be the most ideal for Sisters, if done properly, but it would absolutely have to be done properly, and with the intent of fleshing out its core subfactions as independent entities while encouraging fluidity, rather than cutting them down into bite-sized samples with little to no interplay developed.

I wish they'd just do an inquisition book, including grey knights, deathwatch, and SoB, plus the ecclesiarchy units and other things they had last edition.

It'd give them all more options and synergy, while being fluffy.

No, it wouldn't. It'd just be another excuse to ignore them and give them nothing.

The idea that a combination book done by Games Workshop would "expand" options for lesser known factions is ludicrous and has no basis in reality.

Think someone mentioned it before but Kroot Standalone army. Also Ork Klans.

My admech work a ton better once they got merged together. I'd love if imperial knights got mixed in with us as well, everything would flow smoother.

SilverAlien wrote:
My admech work a ton better once they got merged together.

That's a bad comparison; AdMech was one faction to begin with.

Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle, and Deathwatch are all dramatically different factions (Even Deathwatch and Grey Knights, in spite of being very very similar, are more different from each other than BA are from UM, and we all know for a fact that BA and UM are getting their own books).

Guard - more stuff on the various regiments out there.

Tau Auxiliaries - it would be nice to see some of the various species the Tau work with - more Kroot, Tarellian Dog Soldiers, etc, possibly a stripped down version of Guard for Geu'vasa.

Traitor Guard / members of other species beyond Space Marines falling to / being corrupted by Chaos - Tyranid Hive ships bent and warped, instead of stripping resources terraforming planets into cesspits of corruption, or given enough time possibly even Daemon worlds, Tau Ethereals unearthing dark secrets, and pulling entire septs towards dedicating Tzeench. so on and so forth.

I would like to see Cult Mech get transports. Skitarii need Skitarii HQs (Alpha Primes and the like) and transports. Perhaps something like a six-legged walker like an Onager on steroids. Skitarii need to be independent from Cult Mech again. I would really like Doctrina Imperatives restored for Skitarii as well. They can be in the same book, but they should be able to be run independently. I would also love for there to be a Dark Mechanicus option for both of these armies.

I would like Emperor's Children to get the same treatment that the Death Guard and Thousand Sons are getting their own books (hopefully, World Eaters and Khorne Daemonkin will be fused into a World Eaters Codex). Give them a Tactical Squad, Terminator Squad, a Cultist like variant, and some HQs like TS and DG received. They can go ahead and update the Khorne Berserkers as well.

I'd rather see factions consolidated. We have enough half-ass factions which are left to languish for several editions.

 MarsNZ wrote:
I'd rather see factions consolidated. We have enough half-ass factions which are left to languish for several editions.

Therefor they should be consolidated so they can languish even more?

 Melissia wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:
My admech work a ton better once they got merged together.

That's a bad comparison; AdMech was one faction to begin with.

Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle, and Deathwatch are all dramatically different factions (Even Deathwatch and Grey Knights, in spite of being very very similar, are more different from each other than BA are from UM, and we all know for a fact that BA and UM are getting their own books).

Yeap the DW and Grey Knights are the only Space Marines that should have their own books in my opinion.

Exodites. In the fluff they are supposed to be more numerous than all the craftworlds combined. About time we have rules for them again.

Units that Exodites invented or use:

War Walkers
Scout Walkers
Jetbikes
DragonKnights
Rangers
WorldSeers
ANY Knight Titan (these were a response to the Knight Titans of the Knight worlds who were in direct contention)
Megadons/Carnasaurs


SQUATS
They did not all die. Many many squat homewords were not in the center of the the squat empire but actually deep within the realm of the Imperium as per the fluff. Sure they may be decimated, but even more reason for them to show up now alongside the emperors forces.

Chaos Eldar: And not just slaaneshi units but actual models/units from the corrupted crone worlds. Heck even Chaos Squats~! Many of their homeworlds were swallowd in the warp. No nids got them!

Finally Harlequins.
How about the Great Harlequins, Acolyte Seers, Benathai Familiars, Harlequin Dreadnoughts, The MockingBird vyper variant, Mimes and Master Mimes.

I'd rather have more books period, than less. Especially if they're able to develop them in unison and release them in rapid succession like they're doing right now.

 Melissia wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:
I'd rather see factions consolidated. We have enough half-ass factions which are left to languish for several editions.

Therefor they should be consolidated so they can languish even more?

Kinda of my thought. Consolidating factions just leads to one section of that faction getting all the focus and then they can say that the faction as a whole is getting some coverage.

 admironheart wrote:
Exodites. In the fluff they are supposed to be more numerous than all the craftworlds combined. About time we have rules for them again.

Units that Exodites invented or use:

War Walkers
Scout Walkers
Jetbikes
DragonKnights
Rangers
WorldSeers
ANY Knight Titan (these were a response to the Knight Titans of the Knight worlds who were in direct contention)
Megadons/Carnasaurs


SQUATS
They did not all die. Many many squat homewords were not in the center of the the squat empire but actually deep within the realm of the Imperium as per the fluff. Sure they may be decimated, but even more reason for them to show up now alongside the emperors forces.

Chaos Eldar: And not just slaaneshi units but actual models/units from the corrupted crone worlds. Heck even Chaos Squats~! Many of their homeworlds were swallowd in the warp. No nids got them!

Finally Harlequins.
How about the Great Harlequins, Acolyte Seers, Benathai Familiars, Harlequin Dreadnoughts, The MockingBird vyper variant, Mimes and Master Mimes.

Wait a second. I have a crazy idea. In one of the recent releases there was a picture showing types of Eldar and there was a mysterious Eldar sub-type scratched out. What if that is chaos elves? With the Tau in the warp during the 4th sphere it's pretty obvious that there will be a chaos Tau release at some point. What if when GW said that 8th focusing on chaos it didn't just mean IoM vs Chaos but chaos opponents for everyone?

GW loves it's themed dual releases. Well we know from Atia the Tau are getting something so what if the next month we get Chaos Tau? Next year will likely be a big xenos year if rumors are to be believed. Chaos eldar would be cool to see too even if I wouldn't collect them.

I swear if this happens and chaos players start moaning about not having enough I'm going to flip.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:
I'd rather see factions consolidated. We have enough half-ass factions which are left to languish for several editions.

Therefor they should be consolidated so they can languish even more?

Kinda of my thought. Consolidating factions just leads to one section of that faction getting all the focus and then they can say that the faction as a whole is getting some coverage.

Or just leads them to do absolutely nothing to update anyone in the consolidated faction.

See: 7th edition Codex: Imperial Agents, of which there was basically no updates whatsoever, and even the associated characters released with it were actually their own thing and could be taken by anyone and not just imperial agents.

 Melissia wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Melissia wrote:

 MarsNZ wrote:
I'd rather see factions consolidated. We have enough half-ass factions which are left to languish for several editions.

Therefor they should be consolidated so they can languish even more?

Kinda of my thought. Consolidating factions just leads to one section of that faction getting all the focus and then they can say that the faction as a whole is getting some coverage.

Or just leads them to do absolutely nothing to update anyone in the consolidated faction.

See: 7th edition Codex: Imperial Agents, of which there was basically no updates whatsoever, and even the associated characters released with it were actually their own thing and could be taken by anyone and not just imperial agents.

Hey, the Deathwatch models were new! Of course, they were also in their own codex, but still! And the Grey Knight models are fairly new too!

(And there isn't any reason whatsoever as to why that might be...)

But really, the Assassin models are quite new as well. It is really the Sisters (Jesus H Christ they better be one of the first 10 codexes with a big model release to boot) and Inquisition that are based on ancient models.

New models yes, but not really new rules, outside of deathwatch.

Wow there is a lot of Kroot love our there and I agree we need a full release for them. I personally want to see a completely new xenos race first, but if that is not doable then Kroot is my first preference and then Demiurg. I could even see some interesting Vespid Auxiliaries sub-types but I think they would be better as direct Tau codex release they don't have quite the variety for a full line.

Also the Necron players are not forgotten by me at least. I always wanted to see a new sub-faction of Necron that took them more back to the old school lore. I don't like newcron lore. I want a mindless swarm of killers ruled over by uncaring star gods and maybe a few of the highest nobles can have quasi-independent personalities just so the star gods don't go insane trying to tell them all apart. Their model line would go back to the space terminators look a little more and look really crazy like the flayed one virus hit them hard. I would also lie to see more C'tan out there. A lot of people accuse the C'tan of being boring, but that's just GW not fleshing them out. Who says the C'tan can't create smaller c'tan to fight along side the Necron?

Also I want to see more Tau vehicles. It's been ages since we've gotten a new tank. In some far future update I would love to see a next generation Tau tank [based off the currently new 4th generation line of tanks being made] and a cool hover-flyer that is like a modern day helicopter gunship.

Also I know I get a lot of flack for this even form my fellow Tau but I've seen other companies do "transforming" models that come with both versions in the box and can be swapped on the field. That would be sooo cool to get a transforming mecha. It's one of the classic giant robot tropes and we don't have it. :( Also a generic stealth commander. Also when will the XV22 get out of prototype? Also can we get a sprue that has some cyclonic ion blasters and airbursting frags just so we don't have to kitbash or look online for them. I could go on and on about what the Tau could get for a million years, but for now I'll leave it here with these as the things I want the most. I want to see some more suits in the ghostkeel or smaller size range for awhile now. Finally since its basically obligatory a giant robot at some point in the future.

Imagine a slightly more Tau-ified version of this as a helicopter gunship vehicle on the tabletop.

I definatly would love to see sisters, I'd like to see them completely come out of no where. and just blind side us with a massive sisters release. one that just leaves everyone's jaws on the ground with how amazing the moels look, amazing rules etc. something that makes everysisters fan say "ohh wow this was actually worth the wait!"

Sadly I suspect sisters will end up using the index till 10th edition :(

BrianDavion wrote:
I definatly would love to see sisters, I'd like to see them completely come out of no where. and just blind side us with a massive sisters release. one that just leaves everyone's jaws on the ground with how amazing the moels look, amazing rules etc. something that makes everysisters fan say "ohh wow this was actually worth the wait!"

Sadly I suspect sisters will end up using the index till 10th edition :(

If they got a release the size of the Primaris Marines, I think they would sell like hotcakes. And since the new CEO of GW seems to actually like money, perhaps that will actually happen. It has been implied that nearly every faction will see some sort of release, which is why I hate that Sisters got lumped in with Agents. They could give us a plastic Servitor and be covered with that statement.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

BrianDavion wrote:
I definatly would love to see sisters, I'd like to see them completely come out of no where. and just blind side us with a massive sisters release. one that just leaves everyone's jaws on the ground with how amazing the moels look, amazing rules etc. something that makes everysisters fan say "ohh wow this was actually worth the wait!"

Sadly I suspect sisters will end up using the index till 10th edition :(

If they got a release the size of the Primaris Marines, I think they would sell like hotcakes. And since the new CEO of GW seems to actually like money, perhaps that will actually happen. It has been implied that nearly every faction will see some sort of release, which is why I hate that Sisters got lumped in with Agents. They could give us a plastic Servitor and be covered with that statement.

ohh I agree, a sisters release on par with Primaris Marines would be big. and I think well received.

SilverAlien wrote:
I wish they'd just do an inquisition book, including grey knights, deathwatch, and SoB, plus the ecclesiarchy units and other things they had last edition.

It'd give them all more options and synergy, while being fluffy.

Do you know how many Sisters have been sacrificed by the Grey Knights.... i really want nothing to do with them in all honesty.

Chaos Eldar = Slaanesh

For the dark eldar I really really want to see a big unit. I want to see well one of two things.

1. The boring version a "dark wraith knight"
2. The fun version is a giant walking flesh golem stitched together combined with unholy pain generating tech to create a huge dark eldar themed large unit. The bodies that it is composed of are still alive and from recent captures because of course it's humiliating and painful being shot by your own friends. Which means extra nutritious for the DE.

I want to see more units for all of their cults so more wych units, heamonuclous, and kabals ect or even entirely new ones. A cool idea would be "the faceless" another heamonclous invention of Dr Von Gamgee Krunkler. These were the prototypes to the flesh golem above and are simply failed specimens. No matter their face has wiped clean and all they can do is make vague suffering sounds, a mind control implant forcefully and painfully inserted into heir spine (and with the bonus of turning spinal fluid into poison for claws), and then send in mass waves at the enemy.

 Melissia wrote:

SilverAlien wrote:
My admech work a ton better once they got merged together.

That's a bad comparison; AdMech was one faction to begin with.

Grey Knights, Sisters of Battle, and Deathwatch are all dramatically different factions (Even Deathwatch and Grey Knights, in spite of being very very similar, are more different from each other than BA are from UM, and we all know for a fact that BA and UM are getting their own books).

Well yes, but that's actually good and alleviates some of the problems. When they were two factions, cult mech had lots of heavy firepower, good HQs and tough MW models, but no air support or cheap bodies. The fac they were so radically different meant they complemented each other when merged.

If say SoB and grey knights had some HQs and abilities that could cross over and provide each other buffs (like admech now do) they would actually complement each other fairly nicely. SoB would give grey knights some cheaper bodies, focused on ranged combat with good mobility. Grey knights gives the sisters some additional heavy support/tank/flyer options and tough deep strike units, not to mention a a lot of strong melee units plus psyker support.

SilverAlien wrote:
If say SoB and grey knights had some HQs and abilities that could cross over and provide each other buffs

Why are you complaining about conscripts in 9 billion threads if you can take conscripts yourself?

What, don't you want to take units from a completely different faction in order to make your army better?

If you think Manticores are better than Whirlwinds, why not take Manticores? And you can put some conscripts in front of them to make them even better! It's a win-win! Hell, the same could apply to your AdMech! Just take some conscripts and use them to coat your shooty units to protect you from assault! You can even paint them the same colors as your AdMech, for extra fun!

After all, they're both Imperium so what's stopping you? Just shove it all in. What, doesn't that sound great to you?

Yeah, I didn't think so.