Using Intercessors as Tactical Squad

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**macexor**

Could I use Primaris marines from the CSM/SM box as normal marines?

**jcd386**

Yes, assuming you figure out ways to model them with the right wrappings etc.

And i wouldn't have any other actual primaris in the army unless you somehow made it really clear that's what they were, especially intercessors.

**AnomanderRake**

No.

(I really wouldn't. Different guns, different bodies, different statlines.)

**Lance845**

Wrong base size. Wrong height. Wrong weapons.

Its like someone saying "anyone mind if i use tyranid warriors for hormagaunts?"

**FinkleLord**

Lance845 wrote:
Wrong base size. Wrong height. Wrong weapons.

Its like someone saying "anyone mind if i use tyranid warriors for hormagaunts?"

I wouldn't go that far lol The Tactical Marines and Primaris Marines are at least both on 32mm. Height wise they aren't that much bigger compared to the newer marines (look at the Deathwatch marines). But yes guns are different.

Would I interchange them? No not for the time. Maybe in a few years when more models come out and maybe Tacticals get a new model line.

**jcd386**

As always the rule of cool helps in these conversion situations. If you model them right, and they are on the right bases, and it's not confusing for your opponent, it should be okay.

I personally wouldn't bother as i like the normal marine models just fine, but i wouldn't tell you you can't play the army, even in the most competitive of setting as long as it was clear what was what.

**Insectum7**

Lance845 wrote:
Wrong base size. Wrong height. Wrong weapons.

Its like someone saying "anyone mind if i use tyranid warriors for hormagaunts?"

Except they look exactly the same just 20% bigger.
. . .
It's totally fine. People have been doing "truescale" marine conversions for a while now, and it amounts to about the same thing.

**Skinnereal**

If the only Primaris models you use are in that squad, and it's obvious, because of WYSIWYG, do it.
I was going to use Primaris models for lieutenants, etc, but there are Primaris versions of them in the codex. I'd maybe use older helmets, and tone down their bigness a bit.

**Formosa**

Yeah go ahead, just make sure you dont take any actual primaris marines, as it would get confusing what is what for your opponent.

I mean they are both marines, both have bolters, plasma guns (missing heavies at the mo) etc. its just a size difference, so no issues.

**macexor**

Didn't know there is such a difference in seize. On pictures they look similar.

**Elbows**

Yep, that's fine. Truescale marines have been around for a while. As long as they have the same weapons, you're fine.

**Tycho**

Didn't know there is such a difference in seize. On pictures they look similar.

There really isn't *that* much of a difference. Comparing this to using Warriors for 'gaunts is pretty dramatic imo.

OP - Like others have said, go for it. Just be sure you're clear about what's what and that you don't take any actual Primaris marines in your list (to avoid confusion).

**Unit1126PLL**

I'm just wondering what special weapon/heavy weapons will look like.

"Ahahaha Billy you look so silly"
"Shut up carl"
"But that plasma gun is so smol! Like a puppy!"
"SHUT UP CARL"

" 'ey Carl, come get a load of Freddie's lascannon!"
"Yeah, ain't even as tall as he is!"
"More like a lasgun amirite lads?"
"Conscript Freddie, don't forget your lasgun!"

**MechaEmperor7000**

That would actually be an interesting conversion; a marine holding a lascannon like a Barrett M82 rifle.

Gears in my head are turning.

**jeff white**

In my opinion, the numarines should have been issued simply as new marine models, along with 8th edition updating ALL marines to two wounds per.

If you swap for appropriate weapons, and imho swap out the helmets (as suggested above), then I feel that these numarines will have filled the role that they should have from the beginning.
Except, of course, for having one wound each.

And, who is saying that these marines didn't come from a world where people grow exceptionally tall?

**thegreatchimp**

Do it. Folks have effectively been doing it for years already with truescale marines.

On the subject, I don't know what's with this talk of them being of a similar size to regular marines. They absolutely aren't. No more than a pony is of a similar size to a horse

**ChargerIIC**

You can, but bear in mind that you'll have to do some conversion work for the weapons. People have been apparently using 'Truescale' marines for years so I doubt you'll get much flak for them.

**Slayer-Fan123**

Honestly I am planning to do the opposite, and use Tactical Marines as Intercessors via Boarding Shields from FW to represent tgat extra wound.

Not sure which type of Bolter I'm going with yet.

**Fourkillmaster**

thegreatchimp wrote:
Do it. Folks have effectively been doing it for years already with truescale marines.

On the subject, I don't know what's with this talk of them being of a similar size to regular marines. They absolutely aren't. No more than a pony is of a similar size to a horse

Yes the size difference is BIG If I were you I would just change the heads to the older Mk helmets to avoid confusion.

http://i.imgur.com/RNSTb0U.jpg

**Talizvar**

You may run contrary to WYSIWYG which usually makes people say "no" to your best made plans.

"Rule of cool" may make people happier.

Letter of the law, the models should be used as they are presented / sold BUT they always say "if your opponent agrees." you may have to put him in a headlock.

**broxus**

Yes it would be perfectly fine so long as you don't have both in your list that would confuse people. If you used them as veterans or something else it would be cool also. Anyone who wouldn't let you play with them are likely not worth playing. The new models look crazy good and so similar I can't imagine any issues.

**nekooni**

I'd be fine with it, just make sure you only ever use one type of model on the table to represent one type of model in the rulebook.

If you start going "well THIS guy is a Lieutnant and THAT guy - who looks like his twin - is a Primaris Psyker", then no, that's not.

And if you're proxying anything, please make sure that everything is still easily identifiable to your opponent.

"Lascannons are lascannons, but this lascannon over there, that's a missile launcher" - no. But if that one ML is represented by the only multimelta guy that's not great but OK.