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**Pariah-Miniatures**

gendoikari87 wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2017/09/new-40k-faction-live-qa-reveals.html

Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)

I dont want to believe GW would shoot themselves in the foot that hard.

**gendoikari87**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2017/09/new-40k-faction-live-qa-reveals.html

Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)

I dont want to believe GW would shoot themselves in the foot that hard.

i mean it took them a quarter century to add the steampunk cybermen army to their roster of armies...... and they added the anime fan special foces before them....

**Kanluwen**

Would be nice if someone would just copy/paste things over rather than send people to a clickbait site.

**Dudeface**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2017/09/new-40k-faction-live-qa-reveals.html

Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)

I dont want to believe GW would shoot themselves in the foot that hard.

It's hardly shooting themselves in the foot, just find or give extra mechanics to allow increased movement.

There is no need for a transport no matter how odd it is that they don't have one.

Given that there isn't an additional release with the book, I am however surprised we're expected to use the same hq up to 3 times minimum. If you include the big guy himself then you're forced into mars which may suck.

**BrookM**

Kanluwen wrote:
Would be nice if someone would just copy/paste things over rather than send people to a clickbait site.

Here you go, you owe me now, that site makes me want to vomit.

General Q&A
There will not be Ynarri rules in Codex: Craftworlds.
Vehicle Design Rules – Initially variants of land raider, then possibly expanding to other vehicles.
VDR will only be available for open play initially.
VDR – Will not be Imperium only.
All announced codexes will be out by November.
Specific updated 30k rules manual coming, but we do not have a date yet.
Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)
Necromunda – Bespoke rules for the gangs and world. No planned cross compatibility with major 40k factions (unlike Shadow Wars: Armageddon).
No Forge World faction rules will be in the upcoming Chapter Approved book.
“Plastic sisters would be great”. GW simply replied “Someday”.
Sly Marbo – “Maybe” with a smile. (Interpretation – likely rules in Imperial Guard codex).
Regimental rules will be included in the new Imperial Guard Book.
Looking hard at Necromunda backstory / lore to bring in additional models and factions (Arbites, lord’s guards, etc).
Warzones will be coming out after all codexes are done to tell additional stories.
The 40k list building app will be coming out after paint app.
More Warhammer Quest stuff will be “coming soon”.
There’s a possibility of more Shadow War stuff because of it’s popularity.
All in all there was a lot put put during the live Q&A, and it was a great opportunity for people of the community to be able to ask the questions they most wanted answers to.

**lavadude360**

BrookM you do the Emperor's work, bless you.

**Kanluwen**

Thanks Brook.

**Pariah-Miniatures**

Dudeface wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2017/09/new-40k-faction-live-qa-reveals.html

Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)

I dont want to believe GW would shoot themselves in the foot that hard.

It's hardly shooting themselves in the foot, just find or give extra mechanics to allow increased movement.

There is no need for a transport no matter how odd it is that they don't have one.

Given that there isn't an additional release with the book, I am however surprised we're expected to use the same hq up to 3 times minimum. If you include the big guy himself then you're forced into mars which may suck.

the concept of no transports is foolish, from a fluff perspective and practical one. necrons were the original and they changed for the better.

by your logic there should be no transports for any race because there are 'extra mechanics to allow increased movement'.

variety is the spice of life, I cant imagine playing any army that doesnt have 'options' for different play styles or themes.

I do agree on the HQ situation. I dont like having to take special characters for an army to function.

**Dudeface**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
Dudeface wrote:
Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2017/09/new-40k-faction-live-qa-reveals.html

Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)

I dont want to believe GW would shoot themselves in the foot that hard.

It's hardly shooting themselves in the foot, just find or give extra mechanics to allow increased movement.

There is no need for a transport no matter how odd it is that they don't have one.

Given that there isn't an additional release with the book, I am however surprised we're expected to use the same hq up to 3 times minimum. If you include the big guy himself then you're forced into mars which may suck.

the concept of no transports is foolish, from a fluff perspective and practical one. necrons were the original and they changed for the better.

by your logic there should be no transports for any race because there are 'extra mechanics to allow increased movement'.

variety is the spice of life, I cant imagine playing any army that doesnt have 'options' for different play styles or themes.

I do agree on the HQ situation. I dont like having to take special characters for an army to function.

Slightly out of context there, I never said they shouldn't have them only that they're not needed. By fluff rights they should have plenty of transports, but in a mechanics sense they're not essential.

Tbh an imperium army without reliance on transports is a little spice!

**takonite**

I'm hoping they strip the TPD of all his special abilities and reduce his points down to 70 or something, then give his reroll to hit ability and repair ability to him as 30 point upgrades a piece.

For Cawl I hope he is available in any forgeworld faction. It would be strange for them to work on 7 different subsets of rules and then pigeon hold a player into playing just one of them because the army's most power and unique unit is only available to it.

So for Cawl I'm hoping to see he is available to all forgeworld's but maybe have something like his ability to alter canticle rolls is useable only if he is in a Mars list.

Just baseless wishlisting here

**gendoikari87**

The feth you people have against spikey bits?

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takonite wrote:
I'm hoping they strip the TPD of all his special abilities and reduce his points down to 70 or something, then give his reroll to hit ability and repair ability to him as 30 point upgrades a piece.

For Cawl I hope he is available in any forgeworld faction. It would be strange for them to work on 7 different subsets of rules and then pigeon hold a player into playing just one of them because the army's most power and unique unit is only available to it.

So for Cawl I'm hoping to see he is available to all forgeworld's but maybe have something like his ability to alter canticle rolls is useable only if he is in a Mars list.

Just baseless wishlisting here

or you know... change tech priests from Elite to HQ....

**Neronoxx**

What DON'T we have against spikey bits?

**Verviedi**

It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.

**gendoikari87**

Verviedi wrote:
It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.

I mean, so is BOLS but they're still the best we have in terms of news.

**Grimskul**

gendoikari87 wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.
I mean, so is BOLS but they're still the best we have in terms of news.

Best? Have you not been to Atia's blog? That's some pretty low standards if they're your mainstay for rumours/leaks. Half the time they just copy the stuff leaked here and other forums.

**casvalremdeikun**

gendoikari87 wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.
I mean, so is BOLS but they're still the best we have in terms of news.

You should check out War of Sigmar. It is a much better blog. Minimal speculation, just facts.

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In other news, I really hope Skitarii get another option for an HQ, namely an actual Skitarii.

**gendoikari87**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.
I mean, so is BOLS but they're still the best we have in terms of news.
You should check out War of Sigmar. It is a much better blog. Minimal speculation, just facts.

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In other news, I really hope Skitarii get another option for an HQ, namely an actual Skitarii.

where's our secutors, they are literally the arm of the priesthood of knowledge that studies WAR. aka War Savants. surely theres a few generals in there.

**lolman1c**

What's their strat? I can't see itmon my screen, too blurry.

**Arachnofiend**

takonite wrote:
I'm hoping they strip the TPD of all his special abilities and reduce his points down to 70 or something, then give his reroll to hit ability and repair ability to him as 30 point upgrades a piece.

For Cawl I hope he is available in any forgeworld faction. It would be strange for them to work on 7 different subsets of rules and then pigeon hold a player into playing just one of them because the army's most power and unique unit is only available to it.

So for Cawl I'm hoping to see he is available to all forgeworld's but maybe have something like his ability to alter canticle rolls is useable only if he is in a Mars list.

Just baseless wishlisting here

To be fair, you could say the same thing about Guilliman but people are still playing the other chapters.

**em_en_oh_pee**

Arachnofiend wrote:
takonite wrote:
I'm hoping they strip the TPD of all his special abilities and reduce his points down to 70 or something, then give his reroll to hit ability and repair ability to him as 30 point upgrades a piece.

For Cawl I hope he is available in any forgeworld faction. It would be strange for them to work on 7 different subsets of rules and then pigeon hold a player into playing just one of them because the army's most power and unique unit is only available to it.

So for Cawl I'm hoping to see he is available to all forgeworld's but maybe have something like his ability to alter canticle rolls is useable only if he is in a Mars list.

Just baseless wishlisting here

To be fair, you could say the same thing about Guilliman but people are still playing the other chapters.

Uhh, SM also have a dozen HQ options, plus Big G is a LoW anyhow. We have two HQs and one is unique and Martian exclusive. So yea, different story there.

**Kanluwen**

casvalremdeikun wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.
I mean, so is BOLS but they're still the best we have in terms of news.
You should check out War of Sigmar. It is a much better blog. Minimal speculation, just facts.

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In other news, I really hope Skitarii get another option for an HQ, namely an actual Skitarii.

They won't.

Remember, Skitarii shouldn't have been their own army according to some folks. Because of that, we lost all of our interesting playstyle thanks to Doctrina Imperatives and instead are just rolled into "Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus".

**casvalremdeikun**

Kanluwen wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
Verviedi wrote:
It's clickbait, ad-infested garbage.
I mean, so is BOLS but they're still the best we have in terms of news.
You should check out War of Sigmar. It is a much better blog. Minimal speculation, just facts.

Automatically Appended Next Post:
In other news, I really hope Skitarii get another option for an HQ, namely an actual Skitarii.

They won't.

Remember, Skitarii shouldn't have been their own army according to some folks. Because of that, we lost all of our interesting playstyle thanks to Doctrina Imperatives and instead are just rolled into "Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus".

Those people are idiots. I am fine if they combine the codexes, but Skitarii are definitely a separate army. Their aesthetics and play style are completely different. I am hoping that they still treat them as separate entities, but allow them to intermingle without issue. Skitarii need their own HQs. I don't know how they are going to do that without giving us a new kit, but I think it can be done.

I am hoping that the Mechanicus Knights have some neat tricks. I think I am going to build one of my Knight kits as a Mechanicus allied Knight, and the other as a Freeblade.

**Lockark**

So.... Has their been any word on what kind of rules we can expect for the "Forgeworld Dogma"'s or even what forgeworlds will be covered? Also since this book includes the knights, I hope that means the knights will be able to be repaired by tech priests agien...

**shade1313**

I'm already committed to Ryza, so I hope they get something decent.

**Lockark**

shade1313 wrote:
I'm already committed to Ryza, so I hope they get something decent.

Got a small collection I was thinking of painting lucius TBH, witch I could see it going either way if GW will cover them, or leave that up to Forgeworld.

**Verviedi**

Lockark wrote:
So.... Has their been any word on what kind of rules we can expect for the "Forgeworld Dogma"'s or even what forgeworlds will be covered? Also since this book includes the knights, I hope that means the knights will be able to be repaired by tech priests agien...

Ryza, Lucius, Mars, Stygies VIII, Agripanaa, Graia, and hopefully Cyraxus?

**Lockark**

Pariah-Miniatures wrote:
gendoikari87 wrote:
https://spikeybits.com/2017/09/new-40k-faction-live-qa-reveals.html

Adeptus Mechanicus transports – No (except for narrative play)

I dont want to believe GW would shoot themselves in the foot that hard.

I don't know were else to comment on this but..... I can't believe they are bringing the VDR rules back.... The idea that to start off they are just doing a "Land Raider" VDR to start off, and then make a set of VDR for each chassis seems like a more sensible way to approach it then the "no holds bar" rules they did before.

Also writeing this I just realised they is probably what they meant by transport rules "Only in open play". You will be able to use the onager VDR rules to make a Transport onager. (Up to you how to convert that) But to me that just seems to open up demand for 3rd party companies to make stuff like Transport onager conversion kits....

**Malika2**

Am i the only one hoping for an adeptus mechanicus flyer?

**alleus**

Malika2 wrote:
Am i the only one hoping for an adeptus mechanicus flyer?

I think a small, support aircraft would be fun. Some sort of unmanned drone, or maybe a transport for a Tech-Priest/Magos where he can safely sit back and analyze the battlefield. I wouldn't want an offensive flyer, bristling with guns, for that I would want my Vulturax automata to be usable in 40k instead. They would only have the Fly keyword though, not Flyer unit type.

**Lockark**

alleus wrote:
Malika2 wrote:
Am i the only one hoping for an adeptus mechanicus flyer?

I think a small, support aircraft would be fun. Some sort of unmanned drone, or maybe a transport for a Tech-Priest/Magos where he can safely sit back and analyze the battlefield. I wouldn't want an offensive flyer, bristling with guns, for that I would want my Vulturax automata to be usable in 40k instead. They would only have the Fly keyword though, not Flyer unit type.

Something like a mechanicum version of the arvus lighter sounds about right. Would also kill two birds with one stone, since they would also be transports.