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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/27 19:22:25
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Fresh-Faced New User
Los Angeles, California
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I've gotten some feedback from various people about my Tzeentch list, and have refined it to the following:
It has 1 Supreme Command detachment and 2 Battalions for a total of 10 CP.
It basically plays like a beta strike list - You have a "gunline" in the flamers + smite spam, and some heavy hitters in CC with the DPs, Magnus, and the Herald on Chariot.
Heralds, Changeling, DPs, and Blue Scribes all provide support. What do you guys think?
++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Chaos - Thousand Sons) [54 PL, 982pts] ++
+ HQ +
Daemon Prince with Wings [11 PL, 189pts]: Malefic talon, Warp bolter, Warptime
Daemon Prince with Wings [11 PL, 189pts]: Gift of Chaos, Malefic talon, Warp bolter
Daemon Prince with Wings [11 PL, 189pts]: Infernal Gaze, Malefic talon, Warp bolter
+ Lord of War +
Magnus the Red [21 PL, 415pts]: Diabolic Strength, Warptime, Weaver of Fates
++ Unbound Army (Faction) (Chaos - Daemons) [85 PL, 1017pts] ++
+ HQ +
Herald of Tzeentch [4 PL, 83pts]: Boon of Change, Staff of Change, Treason of Tzeentch
Herald of Tzeentch on Burning Chariot [7 PL, 130pts]: Boon of Change, Treason of Tzeentch
The Blue Scribes [5 PL, 86pts]
The Changeling [5 PL, 100pts]: Boon of Change
+ Troops +
Horrors [5 PL, 32pts]: Blue Horror, 9x Pair of Brimstone Horrors
Horrors [5 PL, 32pts]: Blue Horror, 9x Pair of Brimstone Horrors
Horrors [5 PL, 32pts]: Blue Horror, 9x Pair of Brimstone Horrors
Horrors [5 PL, 32pts]: Blue Horror, 9x Pair of Brimstone Horrors
Horrors [10 PL, 35pts]: Blue Horror, 10x Pair of Brimstone Horrors
Horrors [10 PL, 35pts]: Blue Horror, 10x Pair of Brimstone Horrors
+ Elites +
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
Exalted Flamer [4 PL, 70pts]
++ Total: [139 PL, 1999pts] ++
Created with BattleScribe
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Adeptus Custodes
Adepta Sororitas
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/27 20:25:47
Subject: Re:[2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne
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I like your list. It looks pretty gross with as many princes will be flying around Magnus. You could also look into Malefic Lords as they are dirt cheap and could net another CP in their own detachment. Another suggestion would be switching out Diabolic Strength for Death Hex. I personally get more use out of Death Hex instead because against most things, Magnus will wound on 2s anyways due to T9/10 being fairly uncommon (Though the plus 1 attack is nice). I'd be very interesting in hearing how it plays on the table top.
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World Eaters/Khorne Daemons : 10463pts |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/09/27 22:53:24
Subject: Re:[2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Fresh-Faced New User
Los Angeles, California
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Tyno2025 wrote:I like your list. It looks pretty gross with as many princes will be flying around Magnus. You could also look into Malefic Lords as they are dirt cheap and could net another CP in their own detachment. Another suggestion would be switching out Diabolic Strength for Death Hex. I personally get more use out of Death Hex instead because against most things, Magnus will wound on 2s anyways due to T9/10 being fairly uncommon (Though the plus 1 attack is nice). I'd be very interesting in hearing how it plays on the table top.
Thanks for the feedback!
I've been considering Malefic Lords but have been shying away because I reckon they're going to get nerfed sometime sooner or later. They're also not very Tzeentchy! =D
Roger that on Death Hex, I'll definitely give it a shot.
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40K:
Adeptus Custodes
Adepta Sororitas
Questor Imperialis |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/03 12:50:51
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
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Very nice list, I run something pretty close to this
Ahriman on disk
Scarab occult
Changling
5 squads of horrors (1 blue 11 brim)
4 exalted flamers
3 princes w wings and talons
Magnus
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/03 17:07:09
Subject: Re:[2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Sneaky Sniper Drone
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Why are you taking the 1 blue in the unit? If it is for smite, I am pretty sure it was FAQ'ed that the unit needs to be all blues in order to cast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/03 17:37:34
Subject: Re:[2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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On a Canoptek Spyder's Waiting List
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O'Shovah's Desciple wrote:Why are you taking the 1 blue in the unit? If it is for smite, I am pretty sure it was FAQ'ed that the unit needs to be all blues in order to cast.
I believe they can still cast smite it’s just 1MW not the D3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/03 18:58:50
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Secretive Dark Angels Veteran
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The Stormlord wrote:Very nice list, I run something pretty close to this
Ahriman on disk
Scarab occult
Changling
5 squads of horrors (1 blue 11 brim)
4 exalted flamers
3 princes w wings and talons
Magnus
Why take a single blue?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/03 20:28:02
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Brimstones auto die when they cast. taking one blue alleviates this risk.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/04 05:56:56
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Fresh-Faced New User
Los Angeles, California
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^ As described, if you choose a Brimstone Horror as the "focus" for casting Smite, it dies. a Blue will not.
I've been enjoying this list a lot... Honestly, I think it would be stronger if I took 2 Malefic Lords over the Herald of Tzeentch, but I can't bring myself to be such a meta slave and break the nice Tzeentch daemons theme I have going on right now...
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Adeptus Custodes
Adepta Sororitas
Questor Imperialis |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/12 13:06:15
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Curious. Have you tried the burning chariot? I see alot of exalted flamers and figured if there was a reason for those over the chariot?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/10/12 13:23:55
Subject: [2000] - Tzeentch - Competitive Beta Strike
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Widied wrote:Curious. Have you tried the burning chariot? I see alot of exalted flamers and figured if there was a reason for those over the chariot?
Exalted Flamers have the character rule. Chariots, however, do not.
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