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Interesting idea, but I can't see how you will be able to win objective based games with it...
Also you will have problems with tabeling your opponent, because he just can hide something out of los.

 lash92 wrote:
Interesting idea, but I can't see how you will be able to win objective based games with it...
Also you will have problems with tabeling your opponent, because he just can hide something out of los.

Both points I said would be issues, but both can be worked around with deployment and objective placement. We didn't really use non-LoS units until the Guard book anyhow and many armies don't really have that option and make it work. This list does have mortars though - not that those will do a whole lot to anything tough, but it can harass smaller and/or remnant units. Anything that does come into LoS is toast though.

http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/the-battle-for-mars-box-set-necrons-and.html

Rumours of "The Battle for Mars" to coincide with the Necron release.. interesting rumour - especially since our codex references the growing Necron threat so prominently towards the end of our timeline...

 MIKEtheMERCILESS wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/the-battle-for-mars-box-set-necrons-and.html

Rumours of "The Battle for Mars" to coincide with the Necron release.. interesting rumour - especially since our codex references the growing Necron threat so prominently towards the end of our timeline...

Probably getting no new models for us. If we see new 'Crons though... well. I may build a 'Cron army! I have had an itch to do one for a few months now.

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 MIKEtheMERCILESS wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/the-battle-for-mars-box-set-necrons-and.html

Rumours of "The Battle for Mars" to coincide with the Necron release.. interesting rumour - especially since our codex references the growing Necron threat so prominently towards the end of our timeline...

Probably getting no new models for us. If we see new 'Crons though... well. I may build a 'Cron army! I have had an itch to do one for a few months now.

From what I've heard it's gonna be a Death Masque-esque release with two new characters but otherwise repackaged units. Maybe AdMech will get the long-awaited Skitarii Prime?

 MIKEtheMERCILESS wrote:
http://natfka.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/the-battle-for-mars-box-set-necrons-and.html

Rumours of "The Battle for Mars" to coincide with the Necron release.. interesting rumour - especially since our codex references the growing Necron threat so prominently towards the end of our timeline...

There's only that much room for hope in my heart for AdMech, don't play with my feelings please !

The problem with multiple squads of DakKastelans is 1 strat per phase

We can't take 10 Kastelans because there are too many 48" range threats now. We would have to corner them to within 36" to make this work, but given how accessible DS is now, that's tough.

Suzuteo wrote:
We can't take 10 Kastelans because there are too many 48" range threats now. We would have to corner them to within 36" to make this work, but given how accessible DS is now, that's tough.

Never leave the house without some Space Marines Scouts

So I finally surrendered and decided to try out Cawl with Bots, because high invulns are more and more getting a problem. (Looking at you custodes)

My take on soup:

AdMech Batallion:
- Cawl
- TPE
- 3x5 Ranger
- 4 x Dakkabots
- 2 x Icarus Crawler

Making the Rangers and TPE Graia for some Psyker defence

Guard Batallion:
- 2 CC
- 3×10 Guardsman
- 1×2 Basilisk
- 2xMortar HWT

Soup Batallion:
- Celestine with 1 Geminae
- Primaris Psyker
- 3x5 Scouts

Leaves with with 10 points to either give my Crawlers the extra stubbers or some upgrades for my guardsman.

So what do you think? Anyway to improve this list?

 lash92 wrote:
So I finally surrendered and decided to try out Cawl with Bots, because high invulns are more and more getting a problem. (Looking at you custodes)

My take on soup:

AdMech Batallion:
- Cawl
- TPE
- 3x5 Ranger
- 4 x Dakkabots
- 2 x Icarus Crawler

Making the Rangers and TPE Graia for some Psyker defence

Guard Batallion:
- 2 CC
- 3×10 Guardsman
- 1×2 Basilisk
- 2xMortar HWT

Soup Batallion:
- Celestine with 1 Geminae
- Primaris Psyker
- 3x5 Scouts

Leaves with with 10 points to either give my Crawlers the extra stubbers or some upgrades for my guardsman.

So what do you think? Anyway to improve this list?

Either the extra stubbers or switch 2 ranger units to 2 vanguard units to use their -1 T in melee for a better result of possible counter charges.

Well there isn't very much to countercharge So I'll take the Stubbers.

Iago40k wrote:

Suzuteo wrote:
We can't take 10 Kastelans because there are too many 48" range threats now. We would have to corner them to within 36" to make this work, but given how accessible DS is now, that's tough.

Never leave the house without some Space Marines Scouts

Scouts don't make your Kastelans shoot 12" further. Fact is, Reapers can Webway 48" away from your Kastelans and kill them with impunity. You need something to kill them with, either Basilisks or Icarus Crawlers.

 rvd1ofakind wrote:
The problem with multiple squads of DakKastelans is 1 strat per phase

That isn't a drawback. Our Robots were good before Wrath. And that is why one squad is max - for Wrath potential.


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Suzuteo wrote:

Iago40k wrote:

Suzuteo wrote:
We can't take 10 Kastelans because there are too many 48" range threats now. We would have to corner them to within 36" to make this work, but given how accessible DS is now, that's tough.

Never leave the house without some Space Marines Scouts

Scouts don't make your Kastelans shoot 12" further. Fact is, Reapers can Webway 48" away from your Kastelans and kill them with impunity. You need something to kill them with, either Basilisks or Icarus Crawlers.

Icarus Crawlers won't kill Reapers. Especially Alaitoc ones, since there is the -1 to-hit for shooting ground targets. God help us if they Conceal them too.

You got to deploy wisely. Eldar aren't going to run up the table and lock us in combat that often (excluding Shining Spears, which we should focus fire on as well), so we can deploy tighter to the edge of the zone. Make it hard for them to be out of range. Not a lot of maps that make it impossible for us to get them in range. And we can move and pop BO as well, meaning we can move up 6" and shoot (albeit with the -1 to-hit thanks to Heavy weapons).

They've got a better shot than Neutron Crawlers. But yeah, not ideal. They are good against Shining Spears, Hemlocks, and Wave Serpents too.

Our bots were good before wrath of mars, but with codex creep, they're not THAT good anymore. Also you have to get a datasmith for the other group or activate them a turn later anyway AND pay 1 CP AND root them in place forever

How long do you guys think the life span of 8th edition will last for?

Think If 9th edition rolls round they will mix it up and nerf the good units into the ground and boost the ones that won’t sell?

Dakabots become trash and servitors become the new shiny hehe

I dread 9th edition. GW would look at the lists people run and make us a Guard subfaction.

Ideasweasel wrote:
How long do you guys think the life span of 8th edition will last for?

Think If 9th edition rolls round they will mix it up and nerf the good units into the ground and boost the ones that won’t sell?

Dakabots become trash and servitors become the new shiny hehe

Should take about 5 years from what I hear about the other editions.

What did you think Dakkabots were before, gold? They weren't taken in any format I was familiar with until this edition, especially not in bulk like they are now. They try to sell their stockpiled models with every new codex - it's their job.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Wonder why the Enginseer was the Warlord. Figured the bigger aura on Cawl would've been better but I guess he wasn't buffing as much as he could.

I definitely wouldn't look too hard at the list though. I'm calling it a fluke.

one reason could be he was using the enginseer as the warlord to get the warlord trait NECROMECHANIC where you heal the total wounds +1. with Cawl he would be tided to just the mars warlord trait

Then again there could be a completely different explanation as well! i am making a guess here

 rvd1ofakind wrote:
Our bots were good before wrath of mars, but with codex creep, they're not THAT good anymore. Also you have to get a datasmith for the other group or activate them a turn later anyway AND pay 1 CP AND root them in place forever

You can pop BO at the end of the Movement phase for one group and the end of the Psychic phase for the other.

derp, well that's still only 1 mars volley :p

 rvd1ofakind wrote:
derp, well that's still only 1 mars volley :p

Yeah, but holy crap it is still 72 extra shots. I have erased units with 4 Robots before we had Wrath. I can't imagine it wouldn't be brutal even still. Though the rise in -1 to-hit perks makes the Robots a little less great, even though Cawl does help there too.

If only I had 10 Robots and like 60 Guardsman, I would give this a whirl.

Ravemastaj wrote:

Ideasweasel wrote:
How long do you guys think the life span of 8th edition will last for?

Think If 9th edition rolls round they will mix it up and nerf the good units into the ground and boost the ones that won’t sell?

Dakabots become trash and servitors become the new shiny hehe

Should take about 5 years from what I hear about the other editions.

What did you think Dakkabots were before, gold? They weren't taken in any format I was familiar with until this edition, especially not in bulk like they are now. They try to sell their stockpiled models with every new codex - it's their job.

Yeah I was planning on getting a few robots. Was slightly apprehensive about paying lots of money for certain units then them becoming redundant. 5 years is reasonable though.

I would be ok with that

Not quite a tactic question but figured this is the best place to ask.

I am looking to get some techpriests for my IG/Admech list. Ideally I'd like 3 or so. My plan is to convert some leftover skitarii I had. Just had a few questions.

What is the official base size for regular tech priests now? They used to be 25mm but it looks like they've got a bigger base now.

Anyone know a good source for something cool to make cog axes out of?

For those of you that have converted servo harnesses, what bits do you find work well?

Plan is to run them with a valhallan list mixed with admech stuff so having the techpriests to keep an eye on both russe's and onagers would be a big boon.

Putting together a large assortment of Squat vehicles and bikers and infantry. I will get use out of them in 2nd ed. games.

But Ive been searching for an 8th ruleset to use them for friendly games.

I tried Orks and Rengades, but none of them suited. I'm looking at Skittari. Any thoughts on how I could match up:

Ancestor Lord
HearthGuard
Conversion Beamer

What units would be what and what rules? Do you think AdMech is just the wrong fit here?

thanks

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/

Dust off your Knights, people. They just spoiled a small AdMech Knight.

What do you think those guns are? Phosphor?

Suzuteo wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/

Dust off your Knights, people. They just spoiled a small AdMech Knight.

What do you think those guns are? Phosphor?

The hand gun looks like a flamer but the top gun could easily be a phosphor weapon.

inb4 GW don't give it to admech or they do but our version is gak

 kastelen wrote:

inb4 GW don't give it to admech or they do but our version is gak

With all those AdMech symbols and the Ironstrider legs, if they don't give it to us, I will be so ridiculously mad...

Suzuteo wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/01/26/new-codexes-factions-our-heroes-and-more-breaking-news-from-the-las-vegas-opengw-homepage-post-1/

Dust off your Knights, people. They just spoiled a small AdMech Knight.

What do you think those guns are? Phosphor?

Good thing I just bought 4 Sentinels for guard. Now I've got 4 of these guys ready to be kit-bashed.