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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 16:18:18
Subject: New AM FAQ
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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We have the weirdest breed of masochists on this board, I swear on Gork's puke-green undies.
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Gwar! wrote:Huh, I had no idea Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines posted on Dakka. Hi Graham McNeillm Dav Torpe and Pete Haines!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can I have an Autograph!
Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
When I'm editing alot, you know I have a gakload of homework to (not) do. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 16:34:42
Subject: New AM FAQ
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Shadowy Grot Kommittee Memba
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote: ross-128 wrote:If you get so little enjoyment out of playing BA that all you ever do is complain, and you haven't enjoyed them since 3rd, maybe you should just pick up a different army?
The way you talk it sounds like you don't enjoy playing even when you win, so maybe they're just not the army for you. Instead of clinging to memories of 3rd edition, you should find an army you can actually enjoy through both good and bad codices. Right now you don't even seem to enjoy a good codex.
The issue is Blood Angels have been given the short end of the stick for several editions, and only one were they really any good. Can you blame someone that if they picked up an army they'd want them to work?
It works a little better for Marines because power armor, but you'd never tell another player of a different army to pick up a different army, right?
I would. Abso freaking lutely. And I know guys who just endlessly complain about their army's power level And their ability to win with them. I advise them to try something different because if the game isn't fun there's no point.
I would and have given that advice to SM, Dark Angel, Ork, Eldar, Tau and Nid players.
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"Got you, Yugi! Your Rubric Marines can't fall back because I have declared the tertiary kaptaris ka'tah stance two, after the secondary dacatarai ka'tah last turn!"
"So you think, Kaiba! I declared my Thousand Sons the cult of Duplicity, which means all my psykers have access to the Sorcerous Facade power! Furthermore I will spend 8 Cabal Points to invoke Cabbalistic Focus, causing the rubrics to appear behind your custodes! The Vengeance for the Wronged and Sorcerous Fullisade stratagems along with the Malefic Maelstrom infernal pact evoked earlier in the command phase allows me to double their firepower, letting me wound on 2s and 3s!"
"you think it is you who has gotten me, yugi, but it is I who have gotten you! I declare the ever-vigilant stratagem to attack your rubrics with my custodes' ranged weapons, which with the new codex are now DAMAGE 2!!"
"...which leads you straight into my trap, Kaiba, you see I now declare the stratagem Implacable Automata, reducing all damage from your attacks by 1 and triggering my All is Dust special rule!" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 16:35:20
Subject: New AM FAQ
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote: ross-128 wrote:If you get so little enjoyment out of playing BA that all you ever do is complain, and you haven't enjoyed them since 3rd, maybe you should just pick up a different army?
The way you talk it sounds like you don't enjoy playing even when you win, so maybe they're just not the army for you. Instead of clinging to memories of 3rd edition, you should find an army you can actually enjoy through both good and bad codices. Right now you don't even seem to enjoy a good codex.
The issue is Blood Angels have been given the short end of the stick for several editions, and only one were they really any good. Can you blame someone that if they picked up an army they'd want them to work?
It works a little better for Marines because power armor, but you'd never tell another player of a different army to pick up a different army, right?
If they are clearly not enjoying the army, and the army clearly doesn't fit how they want to play, then yes they should play a different army. You shouldn't be forcing yourself to play an army when it's a poor fit for you, no matter how much you may like the looks.
And if all a person ever does is complain about how their army sucks, complain about how they don't care about the thing it's good at, and how they want the thing it's bad at instead, then I'm going to get the impression that they're not enjoying their army and it doesn't fit them. Especially if the army in question is good, or at least isn't nearly as bad as they make it out to be.
Look at it this way: if a Tau player in 7th endlessly complained that he didn't care about shooting, constantly complained about how bad Tau were in melee, and declared they were a worthless army because they lost to Eldar once, wouldn't you suggest that maybe Tau aren't for them?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 16:48:32
Subject: New AM FAQ
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Kid_Kyoto
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ross-128 wrote:Look at it this way: if a Tau player in 7th endlessly complained that he didn't care about shooting, constantly complained about how bad Tau were in melee, and declared they were a worthless army because they lost to Eldar once, wouldn't you suggest that maybe Tau aren't for them?
I mean, clearly there is a fundamental problem somewhere, and clearly, responding to it in the same manner for months isn't correcting the problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 16:57:33
Subject: New AM FAQ
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
Vigo. Spain.
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Even if Martel goes overboad with it, I don't think that complaining about Blood Angels being bad in meele is comparable with complaining with Tau being bad in meele.
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Crimson Devil wrote:
Dakka does have White Knights and is also rather infamous for it's Black Knights. A new edition brings out the passionate and not all of them are good at expressing themselves in written form. There have been plenty of hysterical responses from both sides so far. So we descend into pointless bickering with neither side listening to each other. So posting here becomes more masturbation than conversation.
ERJAK wrote:Forcing a 40k player to keep playing 7th is basically a hate crime.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 17:01:32
Subject: New AM FAQ
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Loyal Necron Lychguard
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ross-128 wrote:Look at it this way: if a Tau player in 7th endlessly complained that he didn't care about shooting, constantly complained about how bad Tau were in melee, and declared they were a worthless army because they lost to Eldar once, wouldn't you suggest that maybe Tau aren't for them?
Damn, if people wildly misrepresented my arguments like this maybe I'd be as salty as Martel.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 17:13:13
Subject: Re:New AM FAQ
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Imagine if you were forced to eat nothing but your current favourite meal, for years at a time. It would get old, right? You'd crave a change.
Now, instead of that, imagine listening to someone complaining about eating their "favourite" meal for years at a time, despite no requirement for them to do so. They seem incapable of change, despite every reason to do so.
That's going to be me, bitching about Commissars. The proper fix would have been to up the cost on the Infantry they supported. Mark my words, we shall all rue the day GW made Commissars suck, until the end of time, regardless of whether or not they change things in the future.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 17:16:29
Subject: Re:New AM FAQ
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Stubborn Prosecutor
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greatbigtree wrote:Imagine if you were forced to eat nothing but your current favourite meal, for years at a time. It would get old, right? You'd crave a change.
Now, instead of that, imagine listening to someone complaining about eating their "favourite" meal for years at a time, despite no requirement for them to do so. They seem incapable of change, despite every reason to do so.
That's going to be me, bitching about Commissars. The proper fix would have been to up the cost on the Infantry they supported. Mark my words, we shall all rue the day GW made Commissars suck, until the end of time, regardless of whether or not they change things in the future.
Or we'll use models instead of the commisar until GW realizes they made a mistake when only the conscript hordes use them. That's kind of how these frequent FAQ updates work.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 17:41:54
Subject: Re:New AM FAQ
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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greatbigtree wrote:Imagine if you were forced to eat nothing but your current favourite meal, for years at a time. It would get old, right? You'd crave a change.
Now, instead of that, imagine listening to someone complaining about eating their "favourite" meal for years at a time, despite no requirement for them to do so. They seem incapable of change, despite every reason to do so.
That's going to be me, bitching about Commissars. The proper fix would have been to up the cost on the Infantry they supported. Mark my words, we shall all rue the day GW made Commissars suck, until the end of time, regardless of whether or not they change things in the future.
I've eaten the same Chicken Biryani from the same Hamilton indian restaurant 7 times a week for about a year and a half now.
Still crave it. I swear the guy put something in it to make me an addict. Don't care though, totally worth it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/11/03 17:47:05
Subject: Re:New AM FAQ
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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.. I think we're somewhat off piste here TBH.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
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