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Top one is just the old FW Rogue Psyker, guess he’s being repurposed. Had not seen the bottom one before though. A bit hard to parse. Middle guy is still awesome!

Guilders?

Very tempting.

Where are those from? I like those.

I love Mr. Hovergut McRobohands.

Guess I am one of the few fools to buy Gang War IV then. Those last two are "hired guns" available in that book. The fat floater is a psyker.

All three look like trash. Hard pass.

Middle one is a bounty hunter, bottom one is his mutant psychic sidekick. They’re from Gang War 4.

Yikes, those pictures......I'm hoping the photos are making them look bad. The other bounty hunters look awsome, those look like they were sand cast....or something.

Chances are these are 3D prints, those are always rough around the edges.

Bounty hunter looks ace though, that's Arturos right?

 BrookM wrote:
Chances are these are 3D prints, those are always rough around the edges.

Bounty hunter looks ace though, that's Arturos right?

Yes indeed.

And I wouldn't worry about casting. All of my resin Forgeworld Underhive stuff has been top notch thus far so unless quality has suddenly dropped, these are probably just rough prints as Brook suggests or blurry photos

 Insurgency Walker wrote:
Yikes, those pictures......I'm hoping the photos are making them look bad. The other bounty hunters look awsome, those look like they were sand cast....or something.

No, they look like they were taken with a bad camera in poor lighting then JPEG compressed, then ‘fixed’ with the “magic wand”, then jpeg’d again.
It’s kinda funny how in this age of digital images everywhere, people don’t know, or forgot how to spot compression artefacts. Witness the “ProCreate” faction of nay-sayers when that original Primaris Sgt. was leaked…

The photos are screen grabs of yesterday's live stream on warhammer live, so they are photos of a video at low resolution in less than perfect lighting conditions.
They are all bounty hunters not guilders. Tony Cottrell said on the stream that they will share some info about Necromunda in 2019 at the heresy weekender.

Nice, been waiting for these. Especially Arturos since seeing his model in the rulebook.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Nice, been waiting for these. Especially Arturos since seeing his model in the rulebook.

I'm looking forward to that one as well.

Any news from the live stream other than those pics?

Like, news on what happens when a product that is an intrinsic part of the game that is often used as a balancing factor in lop-sided matches suddenly isn't available anymore?

If you mean the cards being unavailable, no, since that was discussed the last time.

The Outlanders gangs (Ratskins, Scavvies, Redemptionists, PSyrers) won't be seen this year - there's new stuff to come instead. Things like a revision of the Venator gang, examples of new fighters such as Escher Death Maidens (possibly as recruitable members of a gang rather than hired guns like Kria). The Goliath bounty hunter character will be coming soon (but not so soon that we see him at the Weekender) with a new as-yet-unseen character. Phyrr Cats are again soon-ish. Longer-term - if Chaos Cults and Genestealer Cults are ever done as a Specialist Games release (rather than just as something to use the Citadel miniatures ranges for)

Suggested idea for a hired gun (nothing confirmed, just off-the-cuff discussion); a Blood Angel who succumbed to the Black Rage and suffers from amnesia, roaming the underhive murdering mutants and monsters.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you mean the cards being unavailable, no, since that was discussed the last time.

What did they have to say about it last time ?

That they're looking into restocking them.

Other threads here have suggested that GW are looking into alternative printers, or bringing card printing in-house, but I've no idea where that information comes from.

If they are printed in China, then there'll be a wait - the Chinese new year usually means manufacturing delays for a week or two (ask any number of delayed Kickstarters ). Depending on who they're using, they may also have to work around other work the printers are doing; if they're gearing up to print a billion packs of playing cards or whatnot, GW will just have to wait.

Eh, good news.

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you mean the cards being unavailable, no, since that was discussed the last time.

The Outlanders gangs (Ratskins, Scavvies, Redemptionists, PSyrers) won't be seen this year - there's new stuff to come instead. Things like a revision of the Venator gang, examples of new fighters such as Escher Death Maidens (possibly as recruitable members of a gang rather than hired guns like Kria). The Goliath bounty hunter character will be coming soon (but not so soon that we see him at the Weekender) with a new as-yet-unseen character. Phyrr Cats are again soon-ish. Longer-term - if Chaos Cults and Genestealer Cults are ever done as a Specialist Games release (rather than just as something to use the Citadel miniatures ranges for)

Suggested idea for a hired gun (nothing confirmed, just off-the-cuff discussion); a Blood Angel who succumbed to the Black Rage and suffers from amnesia, roaming the underhive murdering mutants and monsters.

I thought we'd heard that only half the releases were going to be new gangs and the other half weren't?

Did they say specifically there's no outlanders this year?

 AndrewGPaul wrote:
If you mean the cards being unavailable, no, since that was discussed the last time.

The Outlanders gangs (Ratskins, Scavvies, Redemptionists, PSyrers) won't be seen this year - there's new stuff to come instead. Things like a revision of the Venator gang, examples of new fighters such as Escher Death Maidens (possibly as recruitable members of a gang rather than hired guns like Kria). The Goliath bounty hunter character will be coming soon (but not so soon that we see him at the Weekender) with a new as-yet-unseen character. Phyrr Cats are again soon-ish. Longer-term - if Chaos Cults and Genestealer Cults are ever done as a Specialist Games release (rather than just as something to use the Citadel miniatures ranges for)

Suggested idea for a hired gun (nothing confirmed, just off-the-cuff discussion); a Blood Angel who succumbed to the Black Rage and suffers from amnesia, roaming the underhive murdering mutants and monsters.

That's pretty much all bad news IMO. I was hoping we'd see at least one or two of the Outlanders gangs this year, and for the love of feth can we have *one thing* that isn't smeared with Space Marines. Just one. I like Marines, it'd just be good to have one single, solitary product line from GW that focuses on other things. And don't give me any "just off the cuff" - if they're talking about it, they're seriously considering it, and if they do stuff like that it will be the thin end of the wedge.

Yeah, that Blood Angel concept doesn't seem fitting at all. How would they even get to Necromunda?

I'd be quite happy if they left Space Marines out entirely, and if they do include them, at least go with the sensible option of, y'know, basing it around the Space Marines already on the planet, not some random Space Marine from a Chapter on the other side of the galaxy.

Maybe the "off-the-cuff" concept should be twisted into a failed aspirant, who was abandoned but survived. They could have some Space Marine organs, but not all, and be thoroughly twisted and bitter. That would make for a huge threat, but nothing so overwhelming as even a Scout would be against gangers.

Hmmmm... disappointing if true. I do like the bounty hunters, but I strongly suspect the universal plastic heavies (such as the Ambot we know about, and the Jotunn Ogryns) will serve as the first two release quarters plastics for the game.

I would have liked to have seen the Outlanders this year (especially if the Redemptionists could have taken an 'inspired by Sisters of Battle' look, per standard Cawdor and the Custodes). I do recall them saying they were looking to explore different settings such as the Ash Wastes and Hive Secundus), which I hope is still on the cards. So long as something new, such as the rumoured Arbites force shows up towards the end of the year...

Saying that, bounty hunters are where GW could have a lot of fun. But as that is dependent on FW for the personalities, I think it could be great if a plastic boxset of hivescum/hired guns with a motely assortment of non-gang specific weaponry were to be released. No need to design new rules, as they already fit the books a written.

 Haighus wrote:
Yeah, that Blood Angel concept doesn't seem fitting at all. How would they even get to Necromunda?

I'd be quite happy if they left Space Marines out entirely, and if they do include them, at least go with the sensible option of, y'know, basing it around the Space Marines already on the planet, not some random Space Marine from a Chapter on the other side of the galaxy.

Maybe the "off-the-cuff" concept should be twisted into a failed aspirant, who was abandoned but survived. They could have some Space Marine organs, but not all, and be thoroughly twisted and bitter. That would make for a huge threat, but nothing so overwhelming as even a Scout would be against gangers.

It’s ancient fluff (circa White Dwarf 137 according to the Internet) but there was also a Blood Angel detachment on Necromunda as well. Ultramarines too apparently, but that’s from back when space marines did indeed get shoehorned in everywhere. Not a huge fan of the idea myself, but I wanted to note that it wasn’t a random choice of Chapter.

From garro facebook:
Personally looking forward to seeing where necromunda goes this year, as they've said they're not doing outlanders this year

but they also said that they would intercalate, brutes with gangs..

So.. What do you think they will release this year?

Alternative models of cult genestealer would be a must for me

Re: GSC, it may be an ideal opportunity to bring female neophyte models into the mix. I'll be grabbing a few of the heads from the upcoming bikers to modify some of my cultists. Hells, if they did another pass over the rules to bring in, say, that medic-style model armed with the modified man-catcher, assign stats to that as a weapon, and perhaps even introduce some new skills given their innate knowledge of the machinery surrounding them... that would make me happy (for a quarter, haha)

All 3 of these guys are in the Gangs of the Underhive book.

On Space Marines - the original "Cover art" for Confrontation, which was never released, was a Blood Angel shooting rioting peasants.

And the Ultramarines had a Space Hulk campaign in White Dwarf on Necromunda, related to nerve gassing a 'stealer infested area of one of the hives. It's referenced in the latest version of the rulebook.

So, with the Fists that's 3 First founding Marine chapters who've been on Necromunda in recent times.

That said - there's no way those things should be allowed anywhere near the underhive.

The original Outlanders had rules for Space Marines. They were, as it happens, part of the Underhive Bestiary section (more specifically the Chaos section that also had rules for Daemons).

Yeeeesss... let's not go too far into those. They were far, far, FAR too weak compared to gangers.

About the only thing that stacked up approximately right was Genestealers.