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 Tiberius501 wrote:
Thanks Pain4Pleasure for the response. This is my list, trying to squeeze in a Wave Serpent, but I'm currently over by 36pts :/

What could I change to get it to 1500? Not trying to make a tournament worthy list btw, just struggling to make the points with the models I have.

Spoiler:

HQ
- Farseer w/ Singing Spear (Warlord)
- Spiritseer w/ Psytronome of Iyanden
TROOP
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 20x Guardians w/ 2x Shurikan Heavy Weapon Platforms
ELITE
- 5x Axe/Shield Wraithblades
- 5x Wraithcannon Wraithguard
HEAVY SUPPORT
- Fire Prism
- Wraithlord w/ 2x Shurikan Cannons/Catapults, Ghostglaive
FLYER
- Hemlock Wraithfighter
TRANSPORT
- Wave Serpent w/ 3x Shurikan Cannons

Total: 1536pts

My original list was the same but with minor changes:

Spoiler:

HQ
- Farseer w/ Singing Spear, w/ Psytronome of Iyanden (Warlord)
- Wraithseer w/ D-Cannon
TROOP
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 20x Guardians w/ 2x Shurikan Heavy Weapon Platforms
ELITE
- 5x Axe/Shield Wraithblades
- 5x Wraithcannon Wraithguard
FAST ATTACK
- 5x Shurikan Cannon Wind Riders
HEAVY SUPPORT
- Fire Prism
FLYER
- Hemlock Wraithfighter

Total: 1499pts

If you have any more defenders, or storm guardians or even rangers I’d swap them for the fire avengers. Should free up points

 Tiberius501 wrote:
Thanks Pain4Pleasure for the response. This is my list, trying to squeeze in a Wave Serpent, but I'm currently over by 36pts :/

What could I change to get it to 1500? Not trying to make a tournament worthy list btw, just struggling to make the points with the models I have.

Spoiler:

HQ
- Farseer w/ Singing Spear (Warlord)
- Spiritseer w/ Psytronome of Iyanden
TROOP
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 20x Guardians w/ 2x Shurikan Heavy Weapon Platforms
ELITE
- 5x Axe/Shield Wraithblades
- 5x Wraithcannon Wraithguard
HEAVY SUPPORT
- Fire Prism
- Wraithlord w/ 2x Shurikan Cannons/Catapults, Ghostglaive
FLYER
- Hemlock Wraithfighter
TRANSPORT
- Wave Serpent w/ 3x Shurikan Cannons

Total: 1536pts

My original list was the same but with minor changes:

Spoiler:

HQ
- Farseer w/ Singing Spear, w/ Psytronome of Iyanden (Warlord)
- Wraithseer w/ D-Cannon
TROOP
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 5x Dire Avengers
- 20x Guardians w/ 2x Shurikan Heavy Weapon Platforms
ELITE
- 5x Axe/Shield Wraithblades
- 5x Wraithcannon Wraithguard
FAST ATTACK
- 5x Shurikan Cannon Wind Riders
HEAVY SUPPORT
- Fire Prism
FLYER
- Hemlock Wraithfighter

Total: 1499pts

If you just want to shave off 36 points I'd just drop a weapons platform and some guardians. Probably the ghostglaive as well. Wraithbone fists already hit pretty damn hard. Buffing a wraithlord's close combat damage doesn't seem worth it when it still only has 4 attacks and is likely to get shot down or ignored/tarpitted by some guardsmen/gants/cultists/chaff/etc.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Question- According to the Codex you have 3 types of auturchs, 1 on a bike, 1 with wings and, 1 on foot. Now, am I correct that the 1 on foot has no options for other war gear? So that all he has is his glaive and no other weapon and he can't swap the glaive out for any other melee weapon. If this is the case which figure would be appropriate to use for him (with wysiwyg)?

Per faq you can use autarch rules from index adding gear a available for foot, wing and bike at codex rules and costs. You also can have a warp jump generator autarch. The warp jump generator is index cost codex rules and war gear cost from codex.

I know about the FAQ. My FLGS prefers to play under codex rules where possible. In the codex the auturch on foot has no options for his equipment.

So, my question is what kit would allow you to make an auturch with just a star glaive (with the ability to distinguish it from a far seer with singing spear)?

Huh there no autarch on foot kit on the GW website. Swear I seen it not that long ago?

To answer your question, you could kit bash a dire avenger, guardians and aspect warriors to make somethiing.

Alternatively I think prince yriel is the clostsest thing GW sells. Could also use a visarch i guess.

He, the prince, might work. Do you know if the backpack/flags are separate from the rest of the model or not? If it is then he could make a nice generic auturch. If he has to have the flags then it might cause some confusion.

Realistically you could just gussy up a Dire Avenger Exarch (comes with a glaive option in the kit). A little greenstuff half-cape and some extra ornamentation and boom, Footarch.

I use a Winged Autarch. But I use the foot Autarch rules. I just give him the Falcoh Wings Relic.

It does not count as a Jump Pack so you can put him in a transport and it is easy to say they are collasable wings.




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Oh the BoneSinger has NO psychic power so cannot give himthe Vigilus WraithHost psychic power. Well he does have Smite but that is NOT a criteria for it.

HOWEVER it is a criteria for the WraithSeer. He has a lot of useless powers that would be nice to exchange for the new Psychic power.

My question is....does Conceal work with the new cover psychic power or is it redundant?

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
He, the prince, might work. Do you know if the backpack/flags are separate from the rest of the model or not? If it is then he could make a nice generic auturch. If he has to have the flags then it might cause some confusion.

Pretty sure they are a separate element so you could magnetize them and use him as yriel if need be. Also look for some bits on ebay/swap shop. Might be able to get a set of swooping haw/scourges wings and magnetize those so that he could either be a swooping hawk Autarch or fulachus' wing relic.
Also you could just pin/magentise his head with a dire avengers to use as either Yriel or Autarch? Im sure a simple head swap will be acceptable and sufficient to distinguish the two models.

Autarchs are cool and very kitbashable so you should be abble to do what you want.
I get that your club might not appreciate proxying models - im not a fan personaly. But converting/kitbashing is another kettle of Autarch...

I’ve been wondering what model GW intended is to use as well - I mean, isn’t the idea with Codex entries that they represent what’s currently for sale?!

I’ve been using the Classic Dire Avengers Exarch, no-one in my gaming group has complained! However, I’ve alsi just finished painting a more appropriate conversion made from a Rogue Trader Avatar (bought for £1 on eBay due to missing arm and caked paint) and spare plastic Dire Avenger bits. Can’t wait to put him on the table!

NuhJuhKuh wrote:
I’ve been wondering what model GW intended is to use as well - I mean, isn’t the idea with Codex entries that they represent what’s currently for sale?!

I’ve been using the Classic Dire Avengers Exarch, no-one in my gaming group has complained! However, I’ve alsi just finished painting a more appropriate conversion made from a Rogue Trader Avatar (bought for £1 on eBay due to missing arm and caked paint) and spare plastic Dire Avenger bits. Can’t wait to put him on the table!

I believe the Autarch model is on hold since Fracture of Biel-tan.

I think GW intended or developed new models to represent the forward move in the narrative, The Ynnari novels depict the basic Autarch with a Star Glaive and i believe we won't see the model until the Eldar/Ynnari turn for new models.

My personal model is a converted helmetless Visarch with a Star Glaive on the right arm and a Reaper launcher on the left one.

 Lord Perversor wrote:

NuhJuhKuh wrote:
I’ve been wondering what model GW intended is to use as well - I mean, isn’t the idea with Codex entries that they represent what’s currently for sale?!

I’ve been using the Classic Dire Avengers Exarch, no-one in my gaming group has complained! However, I’ve alsi just finished painting a more appropriate conversion made from a Rogue Trader Avatar (bought for £1 on eBay due to missing arm and caked paint) and spare plastic Dire Avenger bits. Can’t wait to put him on the table!

I believe the Autarch model is on hold since Fracture of Biel-tan.

I think GW intended or developed new models to represent the forward move in the narrative, The Ynnari novels depict the basic Autarch with a Star Glaive and i believe we won't see the model until the Eldar/Ynnari turn for new models.

My personal model is a converted helmetless Visarch with a Star Glaive on the right arm and a Reaper launcher on the left one.

Nice, I have also used a visarch. Got any pics ?

I greenstuffed his sword to represent a flame sabre (cos it made sense at the time) and the reaper launcher didint fit right so its a bit wonky and im putting scourge wings on him as well. Bit of a hot mess at the mo and am regretting some of the decisions.. but got him for £8 on ebay so still cheaper than an autarch!

 Argive wrote:
Pretty sure they are a separate element so you could magnetize them and use him as yriel if need be. Also look for some bits on ebay/swap shop. Might be able to get a set of swooping haw/scourges wings and magnetize those so that he could either be a swooping hawk Autarch or fulachus' wing relic.
Also you could just pin/magentise his head with a dire avengers to use as either Yriel or Autarch? Im sure a simple head swap will be acceptable and sufficient to distinguish the two models.

Yeah, flags are separate. Don't think the head is though.

NuhJuhKuh wrote:
I’ve been wondering what model GW intended is to use as well - I mean, isn’t the idea with Codex entries that they represent what’s currently for sale?!

I assumed that the basic Autarch on was meant to make use of the Yriel model, just not as a special character.

I guess you could just declare Yriel as an autarch just like you can use Eldrad as a generic farseer.

can you just swap out his head and he will look a lot different.

 admironheart wrote:
can you just swap out his head and he will look a lot different.

I checked. The head is, as I said, built in. You could easily enough chop it off and replace it - there are plenty of examples on Google. I doubt you could salvage Yriel's head though.

so what is everyones fave unit (s) Not necessarily the best or competitive...but the one unit you love to field and play?

Mine has to be the Suicidal Autarch Skyrunner with Nova Lance.

I now want to try him out with the new WildRider Host strat plus Nimble Escape strat.

Give him the phoenix gem instead lol


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Mine wpuld have to be corsairs. Havent got any but am hoping to make me some gun slinging pirate space elves fo sho

Has anyone else had success running support weapon platforms?

I ran 9 Shadoweavers in a small RTT over the weekend and they did pretty well. Partly I think due to the surprise factor of no one ever seeing them, but they did work chewing thru screening units and even some heavier targets.

Wondering if 9 is too many, or if there is a more optimal number. For reference, my list was:

Farseer Skyrunner
Spiritseer
3x5 Rangers
3x3 Shadoweaver Platforms

Farseer
Warlock
2x5 Dire Avengers
5 Rangers
9 Dark Reapers

Yvraine
2 Death Jesters
Solitaire (w/Cegorach's Rose)
6 Skyweavers w/haywire and zephyrglaives

I havent.

Im looking to run a nest of 3 with a baby sitting cp farming ulthe autarch. Dont know how it will work in practice.

Seems like 9 is a bit excesdive. Maybe theres better options for you from other codex. I dont play soup of ict fornat so dunno really.

 admironheart wrote:
so what is everyones fave unit (s) Not necessarily the best or competitive...but the one unit you love to field and play?

Mine has to be the Suicidal Autarch Skyrunner with Nova Lance.

I use a Biketarch as well although mine normally just gets a Laser Lance. I do often give him the Shimmerplume Helm. Stacked with LFR, it makes him surprisingly durable.

Is there somewhere that has a breakdown by unit of tactical tips? Sort of like a entry by entry listing of each selection and how best to use it and what unit(s) work best with them?

I know it would help me and I think a lot of other people might appreciate the boost in knowledge.

Leo_the_Rat wrote:
Is there somewhere that has a breakdown by unit of tactical tips? Sort of like a entry by entry listing of each selection and how best to use it and what unit(s) work best with them?

I know it would help me and I think a lot of other people might appreciate the boost in knowledge.

Eldar Codex tactics 1d4chan

Oh please stop. 4chan is good for a chuckle and that's it.
Actually the first post of a threat like this could contain such a rundown, but our op here merely wanted to generqte traffic for his own site, which died two weeks in or so. No i'm not bitter.

I wonder if it is possible for moderators to do anything?

Cpt. Icanus wrote:
Oh please stop. 4chan is good for a chuckle and that's it.
Actually the first post of a threat like this could contain such a rundown, but our op here merely wanted to generqte traffic for his own site, which died two weeks in or so. No i'm not bitter.

If you’re able to decipher the ramblings and ignore the past edition incorrectness.. by knowing your rules.. it can help. Better than Dakka. By far.

So, anybody enjoyed the joy of facing boosted Mental Onslaught from Genestealer Cults? Had that experience this weekend and it was interesting to experience a unit being fully deleted no matter how much health it had left.

Hey.

I'm 100% new to the Craftworlds, so I wanted to ask you guys if these units are alright to start out with.
Got them off of Ebay for a good price and will only play regular beer and pretzel games, so it doesn't have to be super competitive.

3 Serpents
1 Wraithlord
10 Wraithguards
1 Wraithknight
4 war walkers
12 swooping hawks
20 dire avengers
5 rangers
20 guardians

1 Irillyth
1 Avatar
1 Autarch with wings
1 Farseer
3 Warlocks
1 Spiritseer
Ynnari Triumvirate of Ynnead
1Hemlock Wraithfighter

That should be enough to build some fun lists, without being completely murdered, right?
Like I said, I don't want to win tournaments, but build some lists that both players can have fun with.
Mostly play against Nurgle/Khorne deamons and Death Guard and played Grey Knights and Custodes before.

If you have triumvate of ynead you are playing ynari and not craftworlds. Soulburst/ word of the phoenix is very very powerful. Also hemlocks are very very good so putting the two together will mean your opponent is not going to have a good time.. But the rest of your army looks pretty fun. Lots if high rate of fire chaff vs hordes of deamons sounds grear! Espacialy the hawks dont see them often in lists so i support.