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 Frazzled wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
No, I'm refusing to bend over backwards for people who insist on reading a discussion thread that they know will contain spoilers after the movie has been released.

Again, I will use Spoiler tags when the Mods institute a clear and consistent policy dictating how long after release we must use Spoiler tags. Until then, you're making a vague open ended demand. How long after release do we draw the line? One week? Two weeks? A month? Six months? How long must I use Spoiler tags for? There'll be people two or three months from now who still won't have seen the movie. Must we continue using spoiler tags in July or August?

I want clear instruction from the Mods, not a vague and open ended demand from other members of Dakka Dakka. Draw a line, and I will respect it.

Reported so maybe they can help clarify it for you.

They already know.

 reds8n wrote:



i think we'll end this tangent here thanks, and move back to discussing the movie and so forth.

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
It has been noted that the actor who plays Loki is currently signed for one more film.

This makes it unlikely he's perma dead.

Leaked set pictures from the next movie show several characters in older costumes, suggesting flashbacks or time travel, so being signed for one more film doesn't really mean much.

I imagine that one more film will be Avengers 4.

I'd imagine there's a blanket ban on any discussion of contracts that may reveal if a star is or isn't locked in for any more movies that aren't already announced.

Bendydock Comfypatch did an interview recently where he basically very obviously danced around the prospect of a Strange 2, because of course any discussion of that would indicate if Strange makes it out of Av 4 or not.

 Azreal13 wrote:
I'd imagine there's a blanket ban on any discussion of contracts that may reveal if a star is or isn't locked in for any more movies that aren't already announced.

Bendydock Comfypatch did an interview recently where he basically very obviously danced around the prospect of a Strange 2, because of course any discussion of that would indicate if Strange makes it out of Av 4 or not.

Though the end credits scene setting Mordo up as the next villain does strongly indicate a Doctor Strange 2.

Unless we end up with a Wong film! Do it Marvel!

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
No, I'm refusing to bend over backwards for people who insist on reading a discussion thread that they know will contain spoilers after the movie has been released.

Again, I will use Spoiler tags when the Mods institute a clear and consistent policy dictating how long after release we must use Spoiler tags. Until then, you're making a vague open ended demand. How long after release do we draw the line? One week? Two weeks? A month? Six months? How long must I use Spoiler tags for? There'll be people two or three months from now who still won't have seen the movie. Must we continue using spoiler tags in July or August?

I want clear instruction from the Mods, not a vague and open ended demand from other members of Dakka Dakka. Draw a line, and I will respect it.

If nothing else, I've got to admire your persistence and passion on this issue.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

AdmiralHalsey wrote:
It has been noted that the actor who plays Loki is currently signed for one more film.

This makes it unlikely he's perma dead.

Leaked set pictures from the next movie show several characters in older costumes, suggesting flashbacks or time travel, so being signed for one more film doesn't really mean much.

I'm guessing some gauntlet related 'fixing' will result in a timey-wimey recasting or two plus rejig the world with whatever characters the deal with Sony allows

FWIW, Hugo Weaving owes them like 4 more and they didn't even force him to do this one.

 Elemental wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
No, I'm refusing to bend over backwards for people who insist on reading a discussion thread that they know will contain spoilers after the movie has been released.

Again, I will use Spoiler tags when the Mods institute a clear and consistent policy dictating how long after release we must use Spoiler tags. Until then, you're making a vague open ended demand. How long after release do we draw the line? One week? Two weeks? A month? Six months? How long must I use Spoiler tags for? There'll be people two or three months from now who still won't have seen the movie. Must we continue using spoiler tags in July or August?

I want clear instruction from the Mods, not a vague and open ended demand from other members of Dakka Dakka. Draw a line, and I will respect it.

If nothing else, I've got to admire your persistence and passion on this issue.

Spoiler:

Bending over backwards to s-tag this took me 3 seconds. Maybe you should practice with the forum software a bit more?

I didn't see the movie until Tuesday. I didn't even know I was going to see it then until Monday. Do you know what I didn't do once the movie had opened in order to avoid spoilers?

I didn't look at anything online where the movie was being discussed.

Seriously, it would be so easy for someone to accidentally spoil something without even realizing it. You can't control other people's behavior, just your reaction to it. If you decided your reaction to avoiding spoilers is to go places where there might be spoilers and yell at people for spoilering stuff, rather than simply avoid the problem for a day or two, you have not selected the correct reaction, IMO.

 Azreal13 wrote:

 Elemental wrote:

 Shadow Captain Edithae wrote:
No, I'm refusing to bend over backwards for people who insist on reading a discussion thread that they know will contain spoilers after the movie has been released.

Again, I will use Spoiler tags when the Mods institute a clear and consistent policy dictating how long after release we must use Spoiler tags. Until then, you're making a vague open ended demand. How long after release do we draw the line? One week? Two weeks? A month? Six months? How long must I use Spoiler tags for? There'll be people two or three months from now who still won't have seen the movie. Must we continue using spoiler tags in July or August?

I want clear instruction from the Mods, not a vague and open ended demand from other members of Dakka Dakka. Draw a line, and I will respect it.

If nothing else, I've got to admire your persistence and passion on this issue.

Spoiler:

Bending over backwards to s-tag this took me 3 seconds. Maybe you should practice with the forum software a bit more?

I didn't see the movie until Tuesday. I didn't even know I was going to see it then until Monday. Do you know what I didn't do once the movie had opened in order to avoid spoilers?

I didn't look at anything online where the movie was being discussed.

Seriously, it would be so easy for someone to accidentally spoil something without even realizing it. You can't control other people's behavior, just your reaction to it. If you decided your reaction to avoiding spoilers is to go places where there might be spoilers and yell at people for spoilering stuff, rather than simply avoid the problem for a day or two, you have not selected the correct reaction, IMO.

Day or two? That is a strong assumption.

Also, this isn't an accidental thing. This is acknowledging there is a way to get around this and then flat out refusing to use it. You can't even argue this is an accident because we had just talked about this a few pages before. An accident is fine. I can live with somebody slipping up or talking about it without knowing I am around or that I haven't seen it, because using spoiler tags IRL isn't really a thing. But this is the internet. You can use the spoiler tags. Not doing so just because an adult is not holding your hand and telling you to is just rude and spiteful, for whatever reason there is to be spiteful over this issue.

A day or two isn't an assumption, it's a colloquialism for an indeterminate period of time.

Irrespective of a literal or figurative length of time, expecting people to "just use spoilers" is no different than expecting people who don't want spoilers to not enter the thread, it's an assumption based on someone else's behavior that you have no control over.

Much better to avoid going places where spoilers might be, IMO, because that's something that is in your control.

 Dreadwinter wrote:
Not doing so just because an adult is not holding your hand and telling you to is just rude and spiteful, for whatever reason there is to be spiteful over this issue.

I was gonna say something like this, but nicer, earlier in the thread, but a Mod has already noted to shut this down.
My take is that if you are unsure about doing a thing that might be wrong/rude/spoilery and there is a way to avoid it....you should just do that thing that avoids it.

Dude is being called out on specifically avoiding the commonly accepted way of being polite. It may be the viewer's responsibility to avoid spoilers (totally agree with that), but that doesn't give anyone permission to be flippant about how they conduct their actions.

 Azreal13 wrote:
A day or two isn't an assumption, it's a colloquialism for an indeterminate period of time.

Irrespective of a literal or figurative length of time, expecting people to "just use spoilers" is no different than expecting people who don't want spoilers to not enter the thread, it's an assumption based on someone else's behavior that you have no control over.

Much better to avoid going places where spoilers might be, IMO, because that's something that is in your control.

I agree actually. People who want to avoid spoilers can do so easily. People who have seen the movie can also avoid spoiling the movie just as easily.
There is no sense in getting upset for either situation. Adults have control over their own actions and reactions, but poor behavior should always be discouraged

Anyway, back to the topic at hand:
I heard Tom Holland ad-libbed his scene at the end. Truly great performance, really put it over the top

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I kind of really hope they DO do the rebirth asgardian thing. I want kid loki and/or loki agent of asgard. Getting his own movie in phase 4.

Since the thread now has an explicit warning in the title(and seriously, that's all that's required to tell one way or another who's "at fault" - does the thread title have a spoiler warning? If yes, it's the reader's responsibility if they get spoiled, if no, anyone not using spoiler tags is the one being unreasonable - simple, unambiguous, fair):

I'm torn over Loki. On the one hand, it was kind of the perfect way for his character to go out - sort of redeemed-ish, on behalf of his brother, but still a tricky son of a B - and bringing him back runs the risk of making that sacrifice less impactful and that his eventual future end whatever it is wouldn't be as good.

But. It seems like such a waste to put the character through the whole redemption-ish arc just to kill him off as a stakes-raiser. They'd literally just had Thanos beat Hulk to a pulp and kill Heimdall, the audience already grasps that he's super powerful and a total dick, offing Loki as well seems unnecessary. I'd probably have preferred if the whole "fealty feint" bit was a hologram, and actual-Loki did one of his smirky half-apology things to Thor and portaled away or something like that.

Maybe Strange will stay dead and we’ll get Sorcerer Supreme Loki like they’re doing in the comics at the moment.

It does occur to me that discussion of even the title of any Marvel film between now and Avengers 4 will be a spoiler.

Anyway, I enjoyed this film. I wasn't so keen on the way the different characters were split up - it jumped around a little too much for me - but that's only a niggle. I'm not going to bother worrying about who will stay dead and who won't - I don't really mind one way or the other, as long as the next film is decent.

I like how this film is about Thanos; if you flip it around, it's basically a standard Marvel movie with Thanos as the protagonist; we're just watching it from the point of view of the antagonists, so we think it doesn't have a happy ending.

...she's hanging out with Tony on Titan, isn't she?

And she does have her own ship still, right?

She escaped from Thanos’ ship and joined the fight with Tony on Titan, not that she was much help. The opposite really. Iirc she crashed her ship into Thanos so she’s lacking one currently.

She is on Titan.

We did see her escape the ship. While Gamora and Thanos were off on Vormir she was being reassembled and then she escaped, sent a distress signal to mantis, and presumably stole a ship.

I thought I remember seeing her in the background on Titan when the Guardians dissolve.

In terms of ways to escape, I assume the Guardians' ship (apparently the one in the movie is named the Benatar) is somewhere nearby.

She gets one of the last lines in the movie.

I wasn't questioning whether she made it off Thanos' ship, I was wondering if she did so by herself, or if it was arranged.

Oh, no, she totally does it herself.

Took the family to see it yesterday, man what a good movie that was! Right in the middle of it the camera died and so everyone sat around for almost 10 minutes while they got it up and running. I really didnt want to leave that far into the movie. Friggin Thanos baby!

Avengers 4: Heroes Reborn?

 Lance845 wrote:
Avengers 4: Heroes Reborn?

Avengers 4ever

I think the hints are already there that the current outcome they are on, is the only way they could win.

 Galef wrote:

 Lance845 wrote:
Avengers 4: Heroes Reborn?

Avengers 4ever

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avengers_Forever Quite enjoyed it back in the day Its a shame that the MCU hasn't the roster of established villains to put the Thunderbolts on the big screen.

 Sasori wrote:
I think the hints are already there that the current outcome they are on, is the only way they could win.

Spoiler:

Doctor Strange messed with the Time stone and saw the only outcome. In the end when he is erased, he told Tony "This was the only way" So I think it's all according to plan right now. Overall, fantastic movie.

Agreed. Seeing how spoiler tags aren’t needed anymore...I’m going with the musings that all the outcomes they failed (or at least most of them) had a dead Iron Man. The single outcome where they won required Iron Man to be alive.

I think this was my favorite over-all. They made Thanos an incredible character; he’s not just a crazy guy obsessed with getting in Death’s pants anymore. He’s a mass murderer, but he truly believes that what he is doing is for the good of the entire universe. And given how troubling over-population is, he isn’t entirely wrong. The universe needed a man to make a hard choice. He did it, and also sacrificed the ONLY a thing he ever loved in order to do it. This movie did Thanos more justice than any other Marvel media. Thoroughly amazing. My only beef was the lack of Hawkeye.

 timetowaste85 wrote:

 Sasori wrote:
I think the hints are already there that the current outcome they are on, is the only way they could win.

Spoiler:

Doctor Strange messed with the Time stone and saw the only outcome. In the end when he is erased, he told Tony "This was the only way" So I think it's all according to plan right now. Overall, fantastic movie.

Agreed. Seeing how spoiler tags aren’t needed anymore...I’m going with the musings that all the outcomes they failed (or at least most of them) had a dead Iron Man. The single outcome where they won required Iron Man to be alive.

I think this was my favorite over-all. They made Thanos an incredible character; he’s not just a crazy guy obsessed with getting in Death’s pants anymore. He’s a mass murderer, but he truly believes that what he is doing is for the good of the entire universe. And given how troubling over-population is, he isn’t entirely wrong. The universe needed a man to make a hard choice. He did it, and also sacrificed the ONLY a thing he ever loved in order to do it. This movie did Thanos more justice than any other Marvel media. Thoroughly amazing. My only beef was the lack of Hawkeye.

I agree that they did a great job with Thanos. They avoided the pitfalls with Ultron, where they made a character with great personality, but took away his menace, and provided a character you can sympathize with.