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Alpharius/Omegon/normal legionaire looks so badass

I've heard rumour that FW will soon cease production on rogue militia and possibly elysian ranges. Might be worth picking up any bits sooner rather than later.

 JamesY wrote:
I've heard rumour that FW will soon cease production on rogue militia and possibly elysian ranges. Might be worth picking up any bits sooner rather than later.

I really hope this isn’t the case.

The only reason why I’ve not brought any Elysians yet is because I’ve got so many other projects to finish first and I’ve been waiting on their proper “codex” style release.

On the flip side… It’s one less set of rules they have to write, so the others might come sooner… …

 JamesY wrote:
I've heard rumour that FW will soon cease production on rogue militia and possibly elysian ranges. Might be worth picking up any bits sooner rather than later.

Typical. They've been expiring Elysians slowly. Tauros, Flamers, Lascutters, Respirator Heads all gone. Still have a bit to buy. Time to prioritise :(

 zedmeister wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
I've heard rumour that FW will soon cease production on rogue militia and possibly elysian ranges. Might be worth picking up any bits sooner rather than later.

Typical. They've been expiring Elysians slowly. Tauros, Flamers, Lascutters, Respirator Heads all gone. Still have a bit to buy. Time to prioritise :(

Don't worry, I'm sure they will be replaced by way more interesting new sets of Space Marine doors!

 Crimson wrote:

 zedmeister wrote:

 JamesY wrote:
I've heard rumour that FW will soon cease production on rogue militia and possibly elysian ranges. Might be worth picking up any bits sooner rather than later.

Typical. They've been expiring Elysians slowly. Tauros, Flamers, Lascutters, Respirator Heads all gone. Still have a bit to buy. Time to prioritise :(

Don't worry, I'm sure they will be replaced by way more interesting new sets of Space Marine doors!

Ouch, is the only word i have for you, Sir

Let's not start another cycle of that please, m'kay?

If true, sad to see the Elysians go though, poor blighters never got to win in any of the Imperial Armour books as far as I can remember.

 BrookM wrote:
Let's not start another cycle of that please, m'kay?

If true, sad to see the Elysians go though, poor blighters never got to win in any of the Imperial Armour books as far as I can remember.

Yeah, the Imperial Armour books basically had a universal bias of Xenos > Imperium > Chaos/Renegades. I don't think there are any exceptions in the books based around a campaign. Maybe the Orpheus campaign, as that didn't have an ending and was more a stalemate.

 Haighus wrote:

 BrookM wrote:
Let's not start another cycle of that please, m'kay?

If true, sad to see the Elysians go though, poor blighters never got to win in any of the Imperial Armour books as far as I can remember.

Yeah, the Imperial Armour books basically had a universal bias of Xenos > Imperium > Chaos/Renegades. I don't think there are any exceptions in the books based around a campaign. Maybe the Orpheus campaign, as that didn't have an ending and was more a stalemate.

Doom of Mymeara, because apparantly a cobbled together force of ancient mothballed tanks, prisoners and half strength battle weary Cadians (and Elysians, who were kept away from everything) is capable of beating two of the largest Craftworlds Warhosts and 3 Corsair fleets.

It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.






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 Formosa wrote:

 ImAGeek wrote:

 griffen127 wrote:
Are there any rumors when the next book will come out and what it will be? Thanks for the replies.

For 40k it should be Fires of Cyraxus which is AdMech, Red Scorpions and Tau. No clue when, it’s been due for like 2 years at this point. For the Horus Heresy it’s Malevolence, which has Blood Angels, White Scars and Daemons, and also some additions for the Alpha legion and Space Wolves. It’s due at the end of the year but will almost certainly end up being next year.

Probably shouldnt be saying this but my buddy is one of the people writing that book and he told me that is WAS finished, ready to be sent to the printers and they then got told that 8th was coming and had to completely start again, Alan Bligh then died and it threw the entirety of the FW team into a "funk" so to speak, delaying nearly everything they had coming by a large margin.

Probably shouldn't be saying this, but my buddy, who knows things, said what your buddy told you was total bollocks. Like when your buddy told you Dark Angels were the next Legion getting full rules and all it was turned out to be resin upgrades for the plastic legionaries.

 JamesY wrote:
I've heard rumour that FW will soon cease production on rogue militia and possibly elysian ranges. Might be worth picking up any bits sooner rather than later.

I wouldn't even be surprised if that is the fate of the DKoK range as well. The way I see it, the Grenadiers never even got their autocad, the Death Rider #1 has been "temporarily" out of stock for as long as I can remember and FW couldn't help but gut the army range anywhere to the point where half the forces are not even Death Korps, but generic entries out of the datasheets. It's been a decade since the last new mini came out and don't even get me started on background, according to the IG Codex, Krieg is just a planet on the galaxy map. With FoC so long in the pipe, once they get to make non marine models, it's gonna have to be a very big AdMech release. And as they put it, they only have so much shelf space. Soon, the only IG models will be Cadians and Catachans (the next ones up for the guillotine)

Don't get me wrong, I'm sorta happy that the 8th index rules make them somewhat playable, the best they have ever been, but for me it's clear that the only way this range goes from here is down.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.

Really? I thought Simon Egan was doing all of the primarchs?

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.

is this confirmed? to me it looks like Edgar Skomorowski started that that one before he left FW and someone else had to finish it

Winter wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.

Really? I thought Simon Egan was doing all of the primarchs?

Fireball wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.

is this confirmed? to me it looks like Edgar Skomorowski started that that one before he left FW and someone else had to finish it

Confirmed on the Crusade and Heresy FB page.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Winter wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.

Really? I thought Simon Egan was doing all of the primarchs?

Fireball wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
It's a wonderful Primarch model and as an AL player, I'm really pleased... and from the same sculptor as the Varagyr.

is this confirmed? to me it looks like Edgar Skomorowski started that that one before he left FW and someone else had to finish it

Confirmed on the Crusade and Heresy FB page.

Did he suffer a traumatic head injury and suddenly gain the ability to sculpt well, like how some people can suddenly speak French after a car accident?

I kid, I kid. Seriously though, they must have put the guy under a pretty monstrous level of time pressure for someone capable of this to produce those.

'Mûmak™ War Leader' up today



https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Mumak-War-Leader-2018

beast_gts wrote:
'Mûmak™ War Leader' up today

Spoiler:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-GB/Mumak-War-Leader-2018

Man, do they only have the one sculptor for LotR/Hobbit who does only short-legged guys like the Nazgul before?

 Yodhrin wrote:

Did he suffer a traumatic head injury and suddenly gain the ability to sculpt well, like how some people can suddenly speak French after a car accident?

I kid, I kid. Seriously though, they must have put the guy under a pretty monstrous level of time pressure for someone capable of this to produce those.

Well, I for one find it a great shame that we've seen his true and rather excellent sculpting skills on Alpharius, but that (according to rumor) due to the savaging he got around the globe for the Wolf stuff, he quit the company.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Did he suffer a traumatic head injury and suddenly gain the ability to sculpt well, like how some people can suddenly speak French after a car accident?

I kid, I kid. Seriously though, they must have put the guy under a pretty monstrous level of time pressure for someone capable of this to produce those.

Well, I for one find it a great shame that we've seen his true and rather excellent sculpting skills on Alpharius, but that (according to rumor) due to the savaging he got around the globe for the Wolf stuff, he quit the company.

Nah nah nah nah, you don't get to insinuate the blame for that is on fans. Either the guy chose to half-arse the Wolves, or FW put him under such a tight schedule that he had no choice to half-arse the Wolves and, on seeing they were half-arsed, chose to release them anyway. Those models were bad, objectively, and they deserved to be "savaged" - if the guy then quit that's either down to FW and they get the blame for it, or if he took the huff at entirely legit criticism as you say was rumoured then that's on him.

It'd be one thing if it was a huge torrent of actual personal abuse, or if the issues were minor and people had blown them out of all proportion, but I didn't see any higher level of actual vitriol than is normal on the internet, and the criticisms were almost entirely merited.

 Yodhrin wrote:


Nah nah nah nah, you don't get to insinuate the blame for that is on fans. Either the guy chose to half-arse the Wolves, or FW put him under such a tight schedule that he had no choice to half-arse the Wolves and, on seeing they were half-arsed, chose to release them anyway. Those models were bad, objectively, and they deserved to be "savaged" - if the guy then quit that's either down to FW and they get the blame for it, or if he took the huff at entirely legit criticism as you say was rumoured then that's on him.

It'd be one thing if it was a huge torrent of actual personal abuse, or if the issues were minor and people had blown them out of all proportion, but I didn't see any higher level of actual vitriol than is normal on the internet, and the criticisms were almost entirely merited.

Agreed. That's about as legitimate a deflection of criticism as Soda Pop/Ninja Division's claim that they're exiting kickstarter because they don't want to subject their partners and employees to online criticism while convienently ignoring years worth of consumer unfriendly actions (that continue to this day) that entirely justify said criticism. Those Space Wolf models were bad by third party just starting out nameless guys out of the former Soviet bloc standards (and I say that as a Slav myself who is a customer of several such companies) let alone by the market leader for the industry. As you said, it may be FW management's fault if they put too much on the plate for the sculptor for too short of a time span but there is no question that shortcuts were taken. I myself just recently prepped a few "miniatures" for printing on shapeways the next time they have a free shipping sale. I took the same shortcuts in placing weapons that the FW sculptor did but the difference is that the limit of my "sculpting" abilities is adding/subtracting simple geometric shapes to an existing 3d model. I'm a complete noob with zero training doing it for free in my spare time and not a paid professional yet I likely used the same process of import/move/rotate/merge adding existing weapons to existing hands that occured with the FW models. That's unacceptable IMO. Again, I don't know where the ultimate blame should be placed but there is no doubt that there is legitimate blame to be had with those products.

 Kanluwen wrote:

Didn't "Legion" talk about how there was a whole grouping of Alpha Legionnaires who were taller than most and would sometimes pose as Alpharius or Omegon?

Not sure about a group but there was Sheed Ranko, the Captain of the Lernaean Terminators who would normally body-double for the Primarchs if needed.

Do we have any info/rumours on when that lovely new transport for the solar auxilia is coming out?
Edit: to clarify, I mean the Argoran

That is a great looking vehicle. I love the BREN style heavy stubbers FW make. I so wish heavy stubbers were made a special weapon option for IG squads in 40k.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Did he suffer a traumatic head injury and suddenly gain the ability to sculpt well, like how some people can suddenly speak French after a car accident?

I kid, I kid. Seriously though, they must have put the guy under a pretty monstrous level of time pressure for someone capable of this to produce those.

Well, I for one find it a great shame that we've seen his true and rather excellent sculpting skills on Alpharius, but that (according to rumor) due to the savaging he got around the globe for the Wolf stuff, he quit the company.

Nah nah nah nah, you don't get to insinuate the blame for that is on fans. Either the guy chose to half-arse the Wolves, or FW put him under such a tight schedule that he had no choice to half-arse the Wolves and, on seeing they were half-arsed, chose to release them anyway. Those models were bad, objectively, and they deserved to be "savaged" - if the guy then quit that's either down to FW and they get the blame for it, or if he took the huff at entirely legit criticism as you say was rumoured then that's on him.

It'd be one thing if it was a huge torrent of actual personal abuse, or if the issues were minor and people had blown them out of all proportion, but I didn't see any higher level of actual vitriol than is normal on the internet, and the criticisms were almost entirely merited.

There was no insinuation. If, as I had heard, he recently left, it was as a result of the backlash over the quality of the space wolf releases and feeling guilty. All I say to that, is that yes, I thought the Wolf stuff was poor and should never have gotten past QC, but if it meant this sculptor was so upset by the feedback, then, by what we see of Alpharius, that's a real shame, as he (she or otherwise) seems to have had an actual talent and 'slipped up' with the Wolf stuff.

I doubt he "slipped up", but a good artist can do gakky work if he has no time to do it properly.

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

Did he suffer a traumatic head injury and suddenly gain the ability to sculpt well, like how some people can suddenly speak French after a car accident?

I kid, I kid. Seriously though, they must have put the guy under a pretty monstrous level of time pressure for someone capable of this to produce those.

Well, I for one find it a great shame that we've seen his true and rather excellent sculpting skills on Alpharius, but that (according to rumor) due to the savaging he got around the globe for the Wolf stuff, he quit the company.

Nah nah nah nah, you don't get to insinuate the blame for that is on fans. Either the guy chose to half-arse the Wolves, or FW put him under such a tight schedule that he had no choice to half-arse the Wolves and, on seeing they were half-arsed, chose to release them anyway. Those models were bad, objectively, and they deserved to be "savaged" - if the guy then quit that's either down to FW and they get the blame for it, or if he took the huff at entirely legit criticism as you say was rumoured then that's on him.

It'd be one thing if it was a huge torrent of actual personal abuse, or if the issues were minor and people had blown them out of all proportion, but I didn't see any higher level of actual vitriol than is normal on the internet, and the criticisms were almost entirely merited.

There was no insinuation. If, as I had heard, he recently left, it was as a result of the backlash over the quality of the space wolf releases and feeling guilty. All I say to that, is that yes, I thought the Wolf stuff was poor and should never have gotten past QC, but if it meant this sculptor was so upset by the feedback, then, by what we see of Alpharius, that's a real shame, as he (she or otherwise) seems to have had an actual talent and 'slipped up' with the Wolf stuff.

As nice as the Alpharius model is, it still has silly mistakes. The fact that his gun has no handle, or trigger, is a prime example.

Maybe the sculptor didnt wanted to get people triggered.

... Yeah I know wheres the door...

New Alpha Termies previewed:



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blurb:
Hot on the heels of the exciting reveal of Alpharius, we’re excited to announce that another long-awaited Alpha Legion unit is being brought to life soon – the Lernaean Terminators.

Lernaean Terminators are the elite of the Alpha Legion; while the Headhunter Kill Teams assassinate enemy command elements at range, their Terminator-armoured brethren shatter enemy lines in brutal close-assaults. Armed with power axes, they’re ideal for carving through other armoured units, while their Volkite Chargers make them effective against massed infantry too!

The Lernaean Terminators kit is perfect for making a worthy bodyguard for Alpharius, and has a range of tactical roles in your Alpha Legion army. It also features a Terminator-mounted conversion beamer – a rare weapon that transforms the squad into a long-ranged firebase! Even if you don’t use this weapon on your squad, it’s ideal for converting a Master of the Forge in Terminator armour.

That’s not all – Forge World will also be releasing another set of vehicle doors, designed to allow you to customise nearly any vehicle in your army – from Deimos Pattern Rhinos to the Thunderhawk itself – with the heraldry of the XXth.

I don't hate those Terminators... but I really don't like them.

I really like the models, but man is that a crappy platform for that conversion beamer. I guess it’s one of what, two places to get an authentic conversion beamer? I was thinking about putting one on a techmarine in 40k...