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More importantly, "Cadian Honour" goes up today! Woot woot!

 Kanluwen wrote:
More importantly, "Cadian Honour" goes up today! Woot woot!

But do cadian's actual have any honour left they failed in there only real job, they lost there world and there commanding officer is a wax work in an alien museum.
Realistically in-univerese going by all the previous fluff the remaining cadian's would have been blammed for being heretics as the Imperiums propaganda would have to have blamed them directly for the fall of a world described as the morst secure other than terra. As such it can only have fallen due to treachery from the cadian's, I guess it's lucky they are the only plastic guard available currently

SeanDrake wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
More importantly, "Cadian Honour" goes up today! Woot woot!

But do cadian's actual have any honour left they failed in there only real job, they lost there world and there commanding officer is a wax work in an alien museum.
Realistically in-univerese going by all the previous fluff the remaining cadian's would have been blammed for being heretics as the Imperiums propaganda would have to have blamed them directly for the fall of a world described as the morst secure other than terra. As such it can only have fallen due to treachery from the cadian's, I guess it's lucky they are the only plastic guard available currently

That's an incredibly dumb point of view. There's a reason why "the planet broke before the guard did" meme is a thing.

Lord Kragan wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
More importantly, "Cadian Honour" goes up today! Woot woot!

But do cadian's actual have any honour left they failed in there only real job, they lost there world and there commanding officer is a wax work in an alien museum.
Realistically in-univerese going by all the previous fluff the remaining cadian's would have been blammed for being heretics as the Imperiums propaganda would have to have blamed them directly for the fall of a world described as the morst secure other than terra. As such it can only have fallen due to treachery from the cadian's, I guess it's lucky they are the only plastic guard available currently

That's an incredibly dumb point of view. There's a reason why "the planet broke before the guard did" meme is a thing.

Not really there's more than one fluff piece were survivor's are mentioned as being excecuted even after a victory because an objective was failed, and boy was an objective failed this time. Not saying I agree but definitely from an in universe perspective it is out of character for the imperium not to lash out even just for propaganda purposes as if cadia can fall so can terra.

Sigh. The book looks nice but the smear on the front page pretending to be signature is incredibly off-putting. Could they really not tell JF to do better job for that price...?



I have been to cons lots of times, gotten signatures of dozen or so authors, and none of them looked even remotely that lazy and rubber stamped as this one

SeanDrake wrote:
I guess it's lucky they are the only plastic guard available currently

What are Catachans for 100?

People have simple signatures you know. On a more...interesting note, see the top right one at £275

You’d think someone bidding on that would just get the one on the left that’s £250 Buy It Now


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Or the one directly below that one too

People are mental

US Preorders are up a few minutes early on the GW site.

Was going to try to track how fast the LE sold out on the US site but got busy at work (cause if you close at 12:00, you have a crowd at the non retail counter wanting something at 12:01). Did anyone else catch when it sold out? I suspect I only got mine because it was up a few minutes early and I happened to be refreshing.

 TBD wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
Quick Question on THE BEAST ARISES series!

It is now available in 4 'Omnibus' editions - each one containing 4 books.

So...is this series worth the time?

Or are only certain books worth getting?

Book 1 and Book 12? Or some others?

I'm interested - I'd love to read more about Warhammer 31K (or is this 32K?), but I seem to remember the series only getting 'so-so' reviews.

Thanks!

I know this might be a bit late, but I would strongly advise against buying these books if you haven't done so yet.

The series starts out cool enough, some authors having better quality story/writing than others, but the last omnibus is the biggest piece of crap I have ever read. It is so inexcusably badly written and the storyline decisions get so cringy that it actually made me legit angry and feel like wanting to punch some of the writers in the face (Rob Sanders I am looking at you). I have never ever experienced that before with any piece of fiction. Could read back the books and write an entire essay on how terrible it is. Seriously, don't buy.

I haven't purchased it yet, and I probably won't - based off of the misprint issue and overall what appear to be general 'meh' to 'ugh' reviews.

I do appreciate the heads up though - thanks!

I loved Beast Arises, it's a great look at the post Heresy Imperium with some nice ties to Heresy and 40k lore.

Is it perfect ? Nope, nor is every chapter of every book amazing. You could do certain books but IMO the big reveal has more meaning if you've seen everything that has happened. Decisions made in the story ? Take a look at the UK Brexit hilarity to realise that illogical ideas and farce are possible when big decisions are being made.

Looking forward to Cadian Honour, Cadia Stands was pretty good and , to me, written to a similar level as most of Beast Arises (with some noticeable skipping of time/details). It's implied that Terra is framing the Cadians as heroes, remember that we are now really in Guilliman's Imperium and he isn't going to let hardened veterans be wasted for propaganda.

 Irbis wrote:
Sigh. The book looks nice but the smear on the front page pretending to be signature is incredibly off-putting. Could they really not tell JF to do better job for that price...?

Spoiler:

I have been to cons lots of times, gotten signatures of dozen or so authors, and none of them looked even remotely that lazy and rubber stamped as this one

While not every author can be as awesome as AD-B (Though I am sure you will complain about that as well) when it comes to signing books..



You are being awfully petty here.

They could have tipped in the number /2500, mind, given the page is printed for the number to be added by hand. Usually someone from the publisher does that while the author signs. Lazy to not do it.

I did this for Bolter and Chainsword, thought I may as well post it here too. John French did an interview on Twitch a couple of weeks back about solar war, just watched and did a write up. Some minor spoilers for how the book starts if you want to go in completely clean.


Main focus on the 6 weeks of war from when the first ships enter the solar system to the first shells falling on Terra.

Wanted to get across the character and history of places like the Jovian(?) Void Clans, Mechanicum etc, how they’re older than the Imperium is.

Horus has a vast fleet, but can’t safely drop out of the warp into a system like the Sol system. He doesn’t have time to do it safely at the edge as Guilliman etc closing in behind. On the map, near Pluto and Uranus there is the Chthonian Gate and Elysian Gate which are more stable points within the system, but obviously these are very well fortified. Book starts with simultaneous attack on these two areas.

Big cast:
Sigismund, one of the main characters, in command of the outer sphere around Pluto, in command of the force that will first encounter the traitors (not meant to stop the traitor fleet, just hold for as long as possible). Still there as his penance, as not expected to survive.

Horus Aximand - Commanding the traitor fleet at the Pluto gate, Sons of Horus and Iron Warriors mentioned. Apparently will see Aximand and Sigismund cross blades.

Abaddon - point of view character (not been seen much). Horus has dropped a fleet above the plane of the solar system, led by Abaddon, contains the elite of the SoH, lots of Dark Mech, some Thousand Sons, Word Bearers. See some of Abaddons origins on Cthonia.

Mersadie Oliton - remembrancer from first books, prisoner on Titan. Has been moved as Titan has been moved for Grey Knights stuff. Ship she’s transported in is around Uranus as the fleet led by Perturabo comes out of the Uranus gate. She is carrying some information given at start of the book for Dorn.

Loken - one of the main characters.

Lot about Sangy, Dorn, Khan, Malcador, seen through an Admirals eyes. Three primarchs have different views on what the best strategies are as very different.

The Emperor and Horus, interactions between the Emperor and the warp version of Horus.

Ahriman, Perturabo, Forrix crop up.

Wanted his Abaddon to resonate to where we see Abaddon go in the ADB novels, why does he go from being as loyal as he is to Horus to his disdain of him later. Scene between Abaddon and Zardu Layak, talking about the other SoH who remained loyal, to Abaddon they are the traitors and he is the loyal one, to him loyalty is first with his brothers, then to Horus, then to the other Legions then to the Emperor. He really hates Loken etc as he sees them not following Horus as the betrayal.

Almost equal word time for both sides through the series, deliberately. Want to portray both sides evenly. Right and wrong on each side.

Pluto is classified as a planet again in the 31st Millenium

A lot of void combat. A lot of research done, but void combat in 30/40k doesn’t necessarily use a lot of real world physics - more research into napoleonic/ww1 naval warfare (with some physics). Did do research into time for radio/laser signals to get from outer solar system to terra - means that Dorn etc on Terra know the traitors are here, but don’t have any detail about what’s happening for hours (have Astropath signal to say traitors have arrived, but nothing else as signals take time to transmit).

The Phalanx appears in the book.

Thousand Sons have a particular role in the Solar War.

SeanDrake wrote:

Lord Kragan wrote:

SeanDrake wrote:

 Kanluwen wrote:
More importantly, "Cadian Honour" goes up today! Woot woot!

But do cadian's actual have any honour left they failed in there only real job, they lost there world and there commanding officer is a wax work in an alien museum.
Realistically in-univerese going by all the previous fluff the remaining cadian's would have been blammed for being heretics as the Imperiums propaganda would have to have blamed them directly for the fall of a world described as the morst secure other than terra. As such it can only have fallen due to treachery from the cadian's, I guess it's lucky they are the only plastic guard available currently

That's an incredibly dumb point of view. There's a reason why "the planet broke before the guard did" meme is a thing.

Not really there's more than one fluff piece were survivor's are mentioned as being excecuted even after a victory because an objective was failed, and boy was an objective failed this time. Not saying I agree but definitely from an in universe perspective it is out of character for the imperium not to lash out even just for propaganda purposes as if cadia can fall so can terra.

https://regimental-standard.com/2017/01/18/cadia-another-imperial-victory/

And here is the propaganda. Because in case you didn't notice, the imperium is split in half and everything's gone down the drain. In these circumstances, killing about *10 billion soldiers* just because their brethren troops died fighting in a losing proposition is not in character, it's moronic and grimderp.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/20/20th-mar-siege-of-terra-meet-the-authorsgw-homepage-post-2/

whos who of the solar war author s--also

Last weekend saw The Solar War, the first book in the new Horus Heresy: Siege of Terra megaseries (like a miniseries, but approximately 1000% more epic), released as a lavish limited edition. We’re aware that there were some issues with the release on the Black Library site, and we wanted to let you know about the steps we’re taking to make sure future limited edition releases run more smoothly.

From Book 2 onwards, the limited editions will be available exclusively on the Games Workshop webstore – and they’ll be limited to one per order, to ensure everyone gets the best chance to get their hands on a copy. In addition, there are some copies of the limited edition left over after the website issues – and there will be a second chance to get your hands on them in May, when the hardback, eBook and MP3 audiobook formats are also released.

Chris is involved, I have high hopes for the stuff the Scars will be doing.

Good to see apology (of sorts) from them. And the new ordering process - should cut down on scalpers a bit.

John

Chris looks so badass in his photo.

Gav agrees!

We bow down to the patrician awesomeness that is Chris Wraight.

(Seriously, wouldn't you want him running the Imperium?)

Thank the gods they're not letting David Annadale near this. His books in the series have been some of the worst I've ever read.

Dimrill wrote:Thank the gods they're not letting David Annadale near this. His books in the series have been some of the worst I've ever read.

Looky Likey wrote:Anybody heard a new confirmed date for the limited edition of The Solar War? It was previously mentioned for March and was on the release calendar @ BL.com as March but it disappeared a while ago from the calendar. I know the limited is still coming as Rachel Harrison showed off the map that comes with/in the limited edition book:

I would buy that beauty for my wall. This is a superb piece of art.

Dimrill wrote:Thank the gods they're not letting David Annadale near this. His books in the series have been some of the worst I've ever read.

Amen brother, his books are indeed diabolical, unfortunately he is still writing in 40k.

The authors they have chosen are a great bunch.

 Dimrill wrote:
Thank the gods they're not letting David Annadale near this. His books in the series have been some of the worst I've ever read.

by and large the writers they've got on this seems to be pretty clearly GW's "top talent"

It appears two of the authors will get to write two books.

 reds8n wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/03/20/20th-mar-siege-of-terra-meet-the-authorsgw-homepage-post-2/

whos who of the solar war author s--also

Last weekend saw The Solar War, the first book in the new Horus Heresy: Siege of Terra megaseries (like a miniseries, but approximately 1000% more epic), released as a lavish limited edition. We’re aware that there were some issues with the release on the Black Library site, and we wanted to let you know about the steps we’re taking to make sure future limited edition releases run more smoothly.

From Book 2 onwards, the limited editions will be available exclusively on the Games Workshop webstore – and they’ll be limited to one per order, to ensure everyone gets the best chance to get their hands on a copy. In addition, there are some copies of the limited edition left over after the website issues – and there will be a second chance to get your hands on them in May, when the hardback, eBook and MP3 audiobook formats are also released.

I bet they are keeping those extra copies back till May to make sure they have spares in case of up orders.

I don't understand why the BL commerce site isn't on the GW commerce site's platform, would have avoided it running like a complete dog.

I feel bad for anybody who missed out last weekend due to the website issues and scalpers profiting off the issues. I can only see further issues going forward as if you are buying the limited editions you are extremely likely to want the set. What happens when you miss out on one of the series - either accept the series is incomplete and sell what you have or resort to the scalpers.

That would be something, them also still not using Paypal is quite annoying, as there's quite a few quick reads I'd love to pick up from time to time, but don't want to go through the many security hoops a credit card purchase has around here..

Can it really be someone other than Dan or ADB that will write the last book?

Both Ben Counter and Graham McNeill are absent, they both had their hand in some of the earlier big moments, YMMV obv.

Hoping that Dan and Aaron do the last two books, it'll be interesting to see if the latter can stick to the schedule though, he is known for schedule slips, but damn the man can write.

I think it would be only fitting for Mr Abnett to finish the story, as he started it all off 13 years ago.