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Thing is for those working on AoS pre-launch chances are it was somewhat exciting. The mistake GW made was marketing the wrong game and then not marketing AoS itself. It also sounds like they made some odd choices like dumping the rules due to management issues.



Honestly I rarely bother learning much about authors. I don't really mind what their world views are or what they do in their free time. I'm not there for that, I'm there for their books and stories. That's what I care about so I rather enjoy that than pre-load myself with baggage on an authors background when its not really part of the story itself.

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 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Given some of his comments over the years, I'm significantly less sad.

Could you please explain? I am not familiar with any of his comments.

I believe he celebrated 'being part' of blowing up the Old World and gloated that it upset fans of WHFB.

I could be remembering the exact comments wrong but I definitely remember his Twitter profile remarked on it for a while at least.


He then followed that one comment by: and even then people were less pissed at me than at Cavan Scott writting a child's 40k book. Paraphrasing a bit, but the context was him commenting on how waaaay out of proportion the reactions of the fans in regards to the childrens books.
   
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 Overread wrote:

Honestly I rarely bother learning much about authors. I don't really mind what their world views are or what they do in their free time. I'm not there for that, I'm there for their books and stories. That's what I care about so I rather enjoy that than pre-load myself with baggage on an authors background when its not really part of the story itself.


I agree with that. Sometimes, the less you know, the better. I am not interested in BL authors' real world political rants, or what they had for dinner last night. Too much information is a thing, and it is easier than ever to fall into that trap these days.
   
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I thought the mention of the first volume odd as it's listed with a page count very close to the 1-3 combined edition.

No idea how accurate these preorder listings are though.



Extra fluff pages? Design notes and character sketches?

Or, the Amazon description is wrong.

I can't see Black Library releasing a hardback whole saga coloured compilation for £20 but will happily splash the cash if they do.

If it is £20 per volume, I'll stick with my original black and white paperbacks.




   
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Some of the BL compiled lore books have had really good prices. Amazon tends to jump the gun at times with some pre-orders and details can be a bit wrong - heck they've had pre-orders for the newest Game of Thrones book for years now and the release date has (thus far) always been wrong


That said I'm sure we'll find out in the fullness of time.

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Blood Quest will probably have the behind the scenes stuff included again, IIRC my copy of the second arc had this at the end of the story.

Looking forward to it. I do agree that the art shift between the first and second stories is a bit jarring, though I can't really look at the first arc in positive / nostalgic light myself as I jumped in with the second book when I got into the hobby.



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 BrookM wrote:
Blood Quest will probably have the behind the scenes stuff included again, IIRC my copy of the second arc had this at the end of the story.

Looking forward to it. I do agree that the art shift between the first and second stories is a bit jarring, though I can't really look at the first arc in positive / nostalgic light myself as I jumped in with the second book when I got into the hobby.



MacNeill is a fantastic artist. His America and so for Dredd and other 2000AD work is great.

I love the first Bloodquest book but he definitely upped the game. As I said in the earlier post, was he given more lead time and or/ money once GW knew the Monthly was going to be around for a while.


What next for colour versions?

Darkblade? Titanicus?

The mad crazy OBVIOUS TACTICS?


   
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Sorry, anything but Obvious Tictacs please!

It has not aged well and the writing is quite bad. I'm aware that it was a one-man show that did wrote and drew it for Inferno! but, nope!

I'd almost like to see them do a re-release of Deff Skwadron in full colour, though we've already been spoiled by a nice high quality A4 format reprint of it a couple of years ago and the black and white art works really well for that one.

Wouldn't say no to Darkblade and Titanicus either in colour or original B&W, just so long as the quality is better! The pocket sized trades I had back in the day had horrible print quality, with blurry pages, lack of detail, unreadable dialogue.. just horrible.

Really looking forward to my reprint of Daemonifuge next month, which I also had as a trade back then, which also had a horrible quality.



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Have the pre-orders for Daemonifuge gone up yet?

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I've preordered mine over at the Book Depository. Quite expensive, but I expect it to drop in price sooner or later.



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We'll find out soon enough eh.

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 Arbitrator wrote:
 Shadow Walker wrote:
 Yodhrin wrote:
Given some of his comments over the years, I'm significantly less sad.

Could you please explain? I am not familiar with any of his comments.

I believe he celebrated 'being part' of blowing up the Old World and gloated that it upset fans of WHFB.

I could be remembering the exact comments wrong but I definitely remember his Twitter profile remarked on it for a while at least.


He then followed that one comment by: and even then people were less pissed at me than at Cavan Scott writting a child's 40k book. Paraphrasing a bit, but the context was him commenting on how waaaay out of proportion the reactions of the fans in regards to the childrens books.


Or in other words, standard issue modern simpering creative type conflating all criticism of a thing with the most extreme examples to delegitimise all of it, posting comments explicitly designed to rile people up, and then running to twitter to tattle on people when they get riled up. If a writer can't be bothered to/intentionally doesn't choose their words in a way that makes their target clear, I've got no time for "but I was only talking about the minority of meanie-weenies, no bully I!" nonsense.

If some random scumbag on twitter or the chans trolls people, people clutch their pearls harder than Bruce Wayne in that alleyway, but it's suddenly fine or even good actually when a miniceleb does it, especially if it lets a certain kind of "fan" feel smug and superior by reinforcing how cool they are for affecting not to care about their hobbies.

 Overread wrote:
Honestly I rarely bother learning much about authors. I don't really mind what their world views are or what they do in their free time. I'm not there for that, I'm there for their books and stories. That's what I care about so I rather enjoy that than pre-load myself with baggage on an authors background when its not really part of the story itself.


Ordinarily this is my policy as well, unfortunately if you're involved in the online fandom for something some creatives make it difficult to avoid. I used to follow authors' twitters for news on upcoming releases, but that's no longer viable unless you want to see how the whole sausage is made, politics and contempt for fans and all the other gristle too.

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Today’s BL Audio for 99p is Horusian Wars Resurrection.
I assume that’s book 1?

Did anyone see what last weeks was? I think I got it but can’t remember and have no clue from looking in my library..
   
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Yes, the first book the series. Not the best of series, but YMMV. Personally I much prefer the Agent of the Throne audio dramas, they're so much better. I feel we're due another part sooner or later, they used to be released around this time of the year.



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last weeks was the witch hunter one. cant remember the name. i bought the audio and ebook

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Callis & Toll - The Silver Shard was last weeks .99 center.
   
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Callis & Toll - The Silver Shard was last weeks .99 center.


That is one brilliant book. I think the Callis and Toll books have been the best AoS books I’ve read yet. I haven’t read a huge amount but I throughly enjoyed these

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Agreed 100%.

I felt the first story was the stronger of the two but enjoyed both.

As parts of the AOS setting get fleshed out , IMO, the stories are getting better. I think at times the seemingly endless nature of the setting has worked against it , narratively speaking.




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The Endless nature has worked against it on several fronts

1) Logistically its harder for authors to create and use important places because barring one or two major cities; everywhere is major and so huge you can create whole kingdoms that don't matter if they vanish or are never mentioned again.

2) Timescale wise its also hard to work things out. Barring a few major events (Stormcast being unleashed, the start of the age of chaos, the necroquake); its very hard to pinpoint when in the story things happen. This is rather annoying because its hard to relate stories to each other. Is this story happening decades after major events or before.


In most settings you can orientate yourself; AoS had almost an anti-orientation approach at launch. I think that made it harder for reader and authors to settle iwth the setting. I think as time has gone on things have improved and at some stage I think GW will introduce some actual dates and reference point and even more fleshed out maps.

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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/05/27/dawn-of-fire-revealed/


The new edition of Warhammer 40,000 is on the way – and Black Library is in on the action, bringing you a new series of novels that are more closely tied into the ongoing story of the 41st Millennium than ever before. Author and series architect Guy Haley joins us today to tell us about the Dawn of Fire.

Guy: Dawn of Fire is the beginning of an awesome new series of novels set in the Indomitus Crusade, detailing the returned Primarch Roboute Guilliman’s efforts to save the Imperium.

With this new story, we wanted to recreate some of the magic of the Horus Heresy in the Warhammer 40,000 present, so you can expect the same level of deep diving into the lore, extensive cast of characters, amazing revelations and nail-biting action. Naturally, the books tie heavily into the lore of the game, but they’re embedded into completely new, heroic stories that will broaden your understanding of this tumultuous time.

Like the Horus Heresy, the series is being written by a group of highly talented authors, and the ongoing plot was cooked up in hot rooms where the air is thick with creativity. Many of these writers will be familiar to you. Some are Horus Heresy veterans – for them, the Long War never ends!

The big difference here is that the Horus Heresy was telling a tale pretty much everybody knew. With Dawn of Fire, the first part of what will be the immense, sprawling epic of the Indomitus Crusade, we’ve created a new story. That means you don’t know what’s going to happen. For me, that’s amazingly exciting.

I’ve been working with managing editor Nick Kyme to guide the story, and have written the first book, Avenging Son, which tells how Guilliman launches his crusade and of its first major victory at Machorta Sound.

This is the first time we’ve created a series like this that is set in the current Warhammer 40,000 timeline, and by the Emperor, is it ambitious in scope. If you’ve not tried one of our epic sagas before, this is a great place to begin, and if you can’t wait, I recommend Chris Wraight’s Watchers of the Throne and Vaults of Terra books, which follow events on and around the Throneworld immediately before and after the Crusade’s departure.



..well....

.. be intrigued to see how this works out, I do hope this doesn't take over too much from the release of stories that are, perhaps, less central or connected to the apparent new narrative arc.


I am glad to see closer integration between the design studio and the BL "schools of thought". TBF that's generally been getting better for a while , especially -- alas -- since the demise of the Old World setting -- there was some great books/stories done by some authors in that setting that , IIRC, were either just ignored or hastily retconned pretty sharpish.

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At the same time BL has steadily been pumping out Old World combined novels which I hope they continue with. At their current rate they'll be able to clean up a huge chunk of the old world lore and stories into combined editions with a few stand alone stories and short stories - instead of the massive tide of both which make browsing the BL Old World range a bit difficult

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Dawn of Fire details. And I'm completely confused.

When Dark Imperium (the novel) came out alongside Dark Imperium (the boxed set), it was set at the end of the Indominitus Crusade. The had the triumph and everything, and Guilliman dispersed the warriors to reinforce or found new chapters and on to other battlegrounds (like the DG invasion of Ultramar).

The Devastation of Baal wrapped up, and Guilliman shows up at the end to give reinforcements on the other side of the great rift, and set Dante in charge of defending that side of the Imperium. Fine.

Then... PA happened (which I've admittedly read none of), but somehow we were back in the crusade, which we've already seen the end of.

Now Dawn of Fire is happening and its the next big thing... except its also in the past, according to the article, its also set during the Indomitus Crusade. Which we already saw the end of, all the way back in Dark Imperium.

They make a point to say that unlike the HH novels, we don't know what will happen in this series. Which is true... but... we know the Crusade ends with Roboute as the only active loyalist primarch, and by and large no further successful chaos incursions out of the great rift (the DG invasion of ultramar happens after the crusade is over).

So I'm at a loss as to what this series is going to cover, beyond ultramarines, greyshields (most of the primaris forces aren't in chapters yet), and a relatively small selection of imperial factions that happen to be on the south side of the rift.

It seems like they've written themselves into a brand new corner where nothing in particular can happen, by presenting the crusade as the past at the onset, yet having all the rest of the 8th (and now 9th) edition materials being set during it.

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All true, but there a lot we don’t know in the time period still, and I guess it could span past that point as it goes too..

As to Primarch returns or other big things. They wouldn’t be revealed during a book series anyway, they’d be in the next PA style campaign, set after where we got to perhaps.
As it would be linked to a model and rules, so it doesn’t surprise me not to get anything like that in this series.

I’ll look at the first, see what I think of it..


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And on the audio Callis & Toll, Yeah I did grab that one good.

Look forward to giving it a read, well listen!

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As to Primarch returns or other big things. They wouldn’t be revealed during a book series anyway, they’d be in the next PA style campaign, set after where we got to perhaps.


The way I read it is that's certainly how they used to do it, but they're looking at a different way of handling the "present day" fluff going forwards. There do seem to be a fair number of people still reading the books that don't play any more, and certainly there was confusion around the Dark Imperium novel (people asking "what books are before or after this?" and being directed to codex stuff).

So I would expect any big events like returning Primarchs to be covered by novels going forward, however that's not to say they'd reveal them that way - just that they would have novels covering those events eventually.
   
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For sure. They’d get a trilogy minimum for a primarch in present day.
But it was in the context of furthering the story.

Post a sourcebook for the game coming out, novels can fill out those areas and it follows the pattern still.
   
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A quick heads up there’s a 2 for 1 sale on Audible with a handful of 40k novels in there. I got myself The Hollow Mountain, Caves of Ice, Cadian Honour and Brothers of the Snake. I am Slaughter is also on there.

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so the hardback HH reprints 21-25 are on sale for 2 weeks


again.

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/searchResults?N=2560222812+3173267427

£20 each or order all 5 and save £5.

originally on sale back in March

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/03/15/sunday-preview-beasts-vs-other-beasts/

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anyone know what the 99p special is today? the app takes you to kal jerico, sinners bounty but its down as full price.

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It doesn't look like there is one today. They did say it was only a limited time. It's a shame if it's finished, I loved getting a new audio book each week for so cheap.

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I think with the release schedule officially back in action it's over now.

Hopefully Inferno! #5 and it's reprints will happen soon.

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It doesn't look like there is one today. They did say it was only a limited time. It's a shame if it's finished, I loved getting a new audio book each week for so cheap.



Even the Amazon deals appear a little damp this month.

A quick search indicates First and Only, Devastation of Baal are among them along with the first Cain novel.

False Gods is considered a deal because it is at £6.99 rather than £7.99.


Others may turn up if one goes digging.

   
 
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