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Gathering the Informations.



Wow. Such surprise. Much shock!

L to R:
Scout with BSG, Line Kazak, Line Kazak, Line Kazak.
Middle one is potentially something else but the watch cap looks to be there.

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Gosport, UK

Crouching one could be a Wardriver - same boarding shotgun on the dossier and the head shape matches the Wardriver helmet.
   
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Ariadna?

Yawntastic.

But Gencon is in 'Murica, so...Ariada is a 'has to happen', I guess?!?

Insidious Intriguer 
   
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Portland

Its hard to tell, but the big one in the middle looks like its wearing a beret, not a watchcap.So Spetsnaz of some kind?
   
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 Mysterio wrote:
Ariadna?

Yawntastic.

But Gencon is in 'Murica, so...Ariada is a 'has to happen', I guess?!?


It’ll be TAK though, not USAriadna.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Crouching one could be a Wardriver - same boarding shotgun on the dossier and the head shape matches the Wardriver helmet.

It could be--but it's got the 'sleeves' from the smock that the Scouts have---plus the BSG on the dossier is just the Ariadna version.

 ImAGeek wrote:

It’ll be TAK though, not USAriadna.

Sure, but they're apparently under some weird impression that US events really only care about Ariadna.


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 jake wrote:
Its hard to tell, but the big one in the middle looks like its wearing a beret, not a watchcap.So Spetsnaz of some kind?

Only missing Spetsnaz is the Airborne Rifle profile which would mean no beret. The silhouette looks to have the head tilted a bit back, which would prevent you from seeing the ribbing like you do on the one to the right.

Plus they tend to try to keep the silhouettes for the 'basic' troops together as one--and since neither of the other models in that group have a weapon out, I'm sticking with Line Kazaks.

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Melbourne, Australia

 Kanluwen wrote:


Wow. Such surprise. Much T2!



FTFY.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 .Mikes. wrote:
 Kanluwen wrote:


Wow. Such surprise. Much T2!



FTFY.

Amusingly enough, the rifle shown is just a normal rifle...the T2 has a bit more of a distinctive muzzle in the art/models. Little bit shorter and a bit fatter.
   
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Nerd.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Gathering the Informations.


No, you!

It comes from making sure I had all the dossiers for USARF collected.
   
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Beyond the Beltway

Knock it off, boys. Nerds are loathesome, and disgusting. No one here is a nerd. Yes, I have the 1970's-1980's prejudice about nerds.

 Mysterio wrote:
Ariadna?

Yawntastic.

But Gencon is in 'Murica, so...Ariada is a 'has to happen', I guess?!?
Uhm, those are the Space Russians. Not the most popular in the US right now.

Did I call it?

 Red Harvest wrote:
That is a very odd choice for a 300 point box, especially given that promoting one of the new sectorials with a box makes more sense, marketing-wise. To me anyway. But I'm no marketing guy.

I reckon we will see some sort of teaser for the GenCon deal tomorrow. Probably a silhouette of Kazaks and some "patriotic" quote -- or matriotic, given that the would use the term motherland.


Why yes. Yes I did.

Tomorrow it'll be more about the Space Russians, or we get a hint about what the other army in the box will be.

Anyway, the large silhouette is wearing some sort of greaves, so I doubt that it is a line Kazak. Maybe a veteran kazak. Or something new.


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Gathering the Informations.

 Red Harvest wrote:

 Red Harvest wrote:
That is a very odd choice for a 300 point box, especially given that promoting one of the new sectorials with a box makes more sense, marketing-wise. To me anyway. But I'm no marketing guy.

I reckon we will see some sort of teaser for the GenCon deal tomorrow. Probably a silhouette of Kazaks and some "patriotic" quote -- or matriotic, given that the would use the term motherland.


Why yes. Yes I did.

Pft. I called Kazaks for GenCon over a year ago.

Tomorrow it'll be more about the Space Russians, or we get a hint about what the other army in the box will be.

Anyway, the large silhouette is wearing some sort of greaves, so I doubt that it is a line Kazak. Maybe a veteran kazak. Or something new.

Those are called "boots", Red. Realistically, I can't say whether or not there are greaves present. The right leg gets tiny down towards the bottom, taking on almost Liefeldian proportions. The left leg has what looks like the pants bloused into the boots, which seems to be the TAK "thing".

It's quite entertaining that the official forums still has people claiming the far left is a Wardriver. The Scout smock is there and what people are mistaking for the helmet profile is an open hood.
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
Knock it off, boys. Nerds are loathesome, and disgusting. No one here is a nerd. Yes, I have the 1970's-1980's prejudice about nerds.

 Mysterio wrote:
Ariadna?

Yawntastic.

But Gencon is in 'Murica, so...Ariada is a 'has to happen', I guess?!?
Uhm, those are the Space Russians. Not the most popular in the US right now.



Please!

Current admin is telling me 'Murica and Russia are best buds - it might as well be one big happy Sectorial at this point!!!


Insidious Intriguer 
   
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Brisbane, Australia

I anticipate much teeth grinding when the big gencon release is full of (space)russian troops that end up being even better than (space)american troops

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So many games, so little time.

So many models, even less time.

Screw it, Netflix and chill. 
   
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Melbourne, Australia

 Micky wrote:
I anticipate much teeth grinding when the big gencon release is full of (space)russian troops that end up being even better than (space)american troops


Well we already know they have better hackers.

The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space. 
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Micky wrote:
I anticipate much teeth grinding when the big gencon release is full of (space)russian troops that end up being even better than (space)american troops

Justifiably so, IMO. Army creep has been in full effect of late, starting with NA2 and now Tunguska.

They really need to start retroactively applying things to other armies.
   
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Ha - good one!

(Be even funnier if CB actually made that happen.)

Guess we'll really see if Power Creep is for real...soon!

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Beyond the Beltway

 Kanluwen wrote:

Those are called "boots", Red. Realistically, I can't say whether or not there are greaves present. The right leg gets tiny down towards the bottom, taking on almost Liefeldian proportions. The left leg has what looks like the pants bloused into the boots, which seems to be the TAK "thing".

It's quite entertaining that the official forums still has people claiming the far left is a Wardriver. The Scout smock is there and what people are mistaking for the helmet profile is an open hood.


In order:
1-I am certain those are greaves, something which veteran kazak now have. It looks like 3 kazaks in the box (2 shown- 1 male and 1 female. 2nd male not shown. CB did something like this before, IIRC)), 1 veteran kazak, one scout, and one unknown. And the Redjack as the box only exclusive, judging from the sniper shot.
2-The official forums

CB alternated teasers between armies for Ice Storm and Red Veil so tomorrow we will know the second army if it is a battle box, or if this just an army box with the Kazaks.

I do hope that it does not contain the Vedic. I have no desire to get any Ariadna minis, but the Vedic does interest me. Not enough to get Ariadna minis with it though.

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Gathering the Informations.


Vedic teaser.

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I collect neither of these forces, half of me is hoping that I dont love them enough to get the box... but the other half is excited to add 2 more factions to my growing infinity collection...
   
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Greece

? how so?
   
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Hampshire

I believe he is referring to the statement from CB from several years ago that Aleph was an "advanced" faction and would not be included in an "Icestorm" style starter set.

Currently work-blocked so can't see FB linked pics :(
Hoping the Dakini get worked up to Hollow men/Karakuri HI status, and that Aleph get a Su Jian-type mecha as their "centrepiece" figure.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 The Infinite wrote:
I believe he is referring to the statement from CB from several years ago that Aleph was an "advanced" faction and would not be included in an "Icestorm" style starter set.

Correct. It's also their argument as to why Tohaa couldn't be done--despite the fact that Tohaa would have been a better option for this box. It's their argument for why Link Teams aren't used, it's their argument for why they don't backdate stuff, etc.

Currently work-blocked so can't see FB linked pics :(

Spoiler:

Does that work for you?


Hoping the Dakini get worked up to Hollow men/Karakuri HI status, and that Aleph get a Su Jian-type mecha as their "centrepiece" figure.

I wouldn't want Dakini worked up to Hollow Men status. Hollow Men have a unit cap of 5; Dakini are AVA Total 6.

It's interesting that people are saying Devas for the three models shown. Danavas are listed as Line Infantry.

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Canada

Dakini are ava 6, might as well be total though.

The dakini feet and heads look similar to the garuda. Maybe a davanas second from right with the braid at the back hairstyle, possibly an asura.

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Gathering the Informations.

Current lists that I'm expecting, now that Vedic is confirmed:
Spoiler:
ALEPH
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

6
DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
DANAVAS Hacker (Assault Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 23)
ASURA Lieutenant Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 72)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
NAGA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)

2 SWC | 178 Points

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For those who don't know why there's so many Danavas there--they're literally listed as Line Infantry.
Spoiler:
Ariadna
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

6
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
LINE KAZAK Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 9)
SPETSNAZ (CH: Mimetism, AD: Parachutist) Rifle, Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, Knife. (0 | 31)
VETERAN KAZAK Lieutenant AP Rifle, Light Flamethrower / Heavy Pistol, Knife. (0 | 37)
SCOUT Boarding Shotgun, D-Charges, Antipersonnel Mines / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 25)

0 SWC | 120 Points

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There's a 50 point deficit between the two lists but that's what is feeling right at the moment. If the Redjack's a thing, we'll probably see it in for TAK and we'll probably see something like a Dasyu for Vedic.
   
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 Mysterio wrote:
Ha - good one!

(Be even funnier if CB actually made that happen.)

Guess we'll really see if Power Creep is for real...soon!


I'm not sure if I'd call it power creep. I'm still finding a lot more raw power in meat and potato options. What's really lacking in old stuff is just some of the new, cool ideas, like mixed fireteams that make the newer sectorials more interesting. A lot of the old ones simply suffer from their only real differentiating factor being the ability to combine your cheerleaders into a Fire Team.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 LunarSol wrote:
 Mysterio wrote:
Ha - good one!

(Be even funnier if CB actually made that happen.)

Guess we'll really see if Power Creep is for real...soon!


I'm not sure if I'd call it power creep. I'm still finding a lot more raw power in meat and potato options. What's really lacking in old stuff is just some of the new, cool ideas, like mixed fireteams that make the newer sectorials more interesting. A lot of the old ones simply suffer from their only real differentiating factor being the ability to combine your cheerleaders into a Fire Team.

It's a power creep. We should have seen equipment backed up(the Multi Marksman Rifle is a perfect example of this--PanO developed, would be perfect as an option for Neoterran stuff but it's only on one frigging JSA model, Marksman Rifles in general, and several other pieces of kit. Autocannons are another bugbear--it's literally a thing that is prevalent on Dawn but only one unit has it and the Blackjack was a perfect platform for it), we should have seen the new skills backed up(Fatality and Marksmanship are the big offenders here) and we should have seen the mixed fireteams(Which is something I suggested ages ago on the CB forums as a way to bolster up NCA Bolts and had people there dogpiling on me, saying I "didn't understand" the game or why that would be bad for it) added to other Sectorials.

It used to be a bit more manageable since it was tied to books, but it's not anymore. It's just whatever shows up with the new PDF army list.
   
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I have a feeling that many, if not most, of the original sectorials are done and won't see continued updates. I think N3 Human Sphere WAS the update for those forces, and now they're being put aside for new stuff.

I have mixed feelings about that. I don't think every sectorial actually was updated well with N3HS, and there are a LOT of newer skills and equipment that are perfectly suited to some of the older armies that they just don't have access to, which is really too bad. And I hate the idea of leaving some of these armies behind and never seeing them further developed. On the other hand, with so many sectorials in the game it really is inevitable, especially since this year's 8 new sectorials are probably just the beginning of a new wave of sectorials armies. And as long as the older sectorials remain available for play it mostly won't bother me too much that they are "finished" I suppose there's also always the chance that finished sectorials could be brought out and polished up every now and then.

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
 Mysterio wrote:
Ha - good one!

(Be even funnier if CB actually made that happen.)

Guess we'll really see if Power Creep is for real...soon!


I'm not sure if I'd call it power creep. I'm still finding a lot more raw power in meat and potato options. What's really lacking in old stuff is just some of the new, cool ideas, like mixed fireteams that make the newer sectorials more interesting. A lot of the old ones simply suffer from their only real differentiating factor being the ability to combine your cheerleaders into a Fire Team.

It's a power creep. We should have seen equipment backed up(the Multi Marksman Rifle is a perfect example of this--PanO developed, would be perfect as an option for Neoterran stuff but it's only on one frigging JSA model, Marksman Rifles in general, and several other pieces of kit. Autocannons are another bugbear--it's literally a thing that is prevalent on Dawn but only one unit has it and the Blackjack was a perfect platform for it), we should have seen the new skills backed up(Fatality and Marksmanship are the big offenders here) and we should have seen the mixed fireteams(Which is something I suggested ages ago on the CB forums as a way to bolster up NCA Bolts and had people there dogpiling on me, saying I "didn't understand" the game or why that would be bad for it) added to other Sectorials.

It used to be a bit more manageable since it was tied to books, but it's not anymore. It's just whatever shows up with the new PDF army list.


They definitely should have added more mixed fireteam options for existing lists. Its a legit gripe. PanO particularly has some pretty boring fireteam options compared to all the mixing & matching everyone else can do.

However, I wouldnt go so far as to call it power creep just yet.

Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing 
   
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 Kanluwen wrote:
Current lists that I'm expecting, now that Vedic is confirmed:
Spoiler:
ALEPH
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

6
DANAVAS Hacker (Hacking Device Plus. UPGRADE: Maestro) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 25)
DANAVAS Hacker (Assault Hacking Device. UPGRADE: Icebreaker) Combi Rifle + Pitcher / Breaker Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 23)
ASURA Lieutenant Hacker (Hacking Device Plus UPGRADE: Redrum) Combi Rifle, Nanopulser / Pistol, AP CCW. (0.5 | 72)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
DAKINI Tacbot Combi Rifle / Electric Pulse. (0 | 13)
NAGA Hacker (Assault Hacking Device) Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0.5 | 32)

2 SWC | 178 Points

Open in Infinity Army


For those who don't know why there's so many Danavas there--they're literally listed as Line Infantry.


Dakinis are line troops to. There will probably be 3 Dakinis in there to but they are just showing 2 i the silhouettes as they did with the TAK one.
And when you look at one of the snipershots highly likely to be one of the female ALEPH, it doesent have the same combat heels as the Danavas has.

Made an interesting observation when looking at the Danavas sculpt to. It has the YuJing style pistol holster, so the snipershoot with the hexagon thighs might be from ALEPH.
   
 
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