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2018/08/03 19:30:15
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
I wish they had spent some time taking about why the Raicho changed. In the fluff, I mean. Its such a huge change, and there are several implications. Has the EI taken over producing MAF weapons? Is so, are they standardizing all CA tech? Can we expect that for the Shasvastii as well? Are MAF weapon manufacturers trying to bring their tech in one with the EI? Why now, after hundreds of years in the Combined Army? Are the EI and Nomads sharing tech? Are more MAF reinforcements with newer armaments coming through the blockade? Why were the pilot slave arms eliminated? Is the older version of the Raicho still in operation, or where they recalled or replaced as they were destroyed on the battlefield?
I would have loved to see some fluff exploring any of that, or any other reason for the drastic design shift.
2018/08/03 20:33:16
Subject: Re:The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
jake wrote: I would have loved to see some fluff exploring any of that, or any other reason for the drastic design shift.
And the same for this shift in the appearance of the Nomad stuff. I think the explanations may be forthcoming in the next book which should talk about the new sectorials. My guess is that it will be a hand wave. New units looks different because they are the regular forces, and not the scouting/recon force.
Who knows what Bostria will mention tomorrow.
2018/08/03 21:28:24
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
jake wrote: I would have loved to see some fluff exploring any of that, or any other reason for the drastic design shift.
And the same for this shift in the appearance of the Nomad stuff. I think the explanations may be forthcoming in the next book which should talk about the new sectorials. My guess is that it will be a hand wave. New units looks different because they are the regular forces, and not the scouting/recon force.
Who knows what Bostria will mention tomorrow.
Nomads, specifically, are changed because of a shift in popular culture from what I've been told in the past. As scifi stuff has gone a bit more 'utilitarian', so did the Nomad digs. Add to it that now the "Reptile" series of TAGs have been a bit more fleshed out and you get this new interesting look going.
2018/08/03 22:12:34
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
jake wrote: I would have loved to see some fluff exploring any of that, or any other reason for the drastic design shift.
And the same for this shift in the appearance of the Nomad stuff. I think the explanations may be forthcoming in the next book which should talk about the new sectorials. My guess is that it will be a hand wave. New units looks different because they are the regular forces, and not the scouting/recon force.
Who knows what Bostria will mention tomorrow.
Nomads, specifically, are changed because of a shift in popular culture from what I've been told in the past. As scifi stuff has gone a bit more 'utilitarian', so did the Nomad digs. Add to it that now the "Reptile" series of TAGs have been a bit more fleshed out and you get this new interesting look going.
It seems similar, but also a little different to me. While the Nomad changes are a combination of updating old models to a current aesthetic as part of the ongoing resculpt cycle (the Bakunin and Corrigidor releases from the last 3 years) and introducing a new sectorial with its own look that required an update of existing sectorial models) the Raicho isn't either of those things. Its a relatively recent model from an army that had already received its update. The original Raicho was the very last Morat model before the Morat redesign, and and while I think you can easily argue that it didn't quite fit the redesign style, Carlos had said that while they were working on the Raicho they were also working on the early designs for the MAF starter, and the two were meant to go together. Now that statement was like 6 months before we saw the designs for the starter, so who knows what changed (if anything). My point though is that the Raicho actually wasn't that old, and if they wanted to do a resculpt it would have made sense to bring it up to the standard and style of the rest of the sectorial. Instead they went with a wildly different look (which is fine). Which I know is the result of a different designer, but I would have really loved to see a little fluff to justify and explain this. Because it suggests so many interesting possibilities. In contrast, the Nomad updates (also visually interesting) can be explained away with more mundane excuses like "We bought new armor" or " We hired a new design firm". Which is interesting in its own way (and more interesting if the similarities to CA tech is more than incidental). But the new Raicho suggests some big questions. Has the Ei decided to start designing MAF weapons, and if so why just now and not decades ago? Are new supply lines now open? Has the Combined Army set up new manufacturing facilities (I guess they must have by this point)? Is the change in design a fundamental response to this specific war?
I mean, probably the answer has no fluff behind it at all. Its probably just "We thought it was time to do a new Raicho, and we weren't super worried about visual consistency." Which is fine. But it seems like a great opportunity for a few paragraphs of throw away text. Gutier seems like the kind of person who probably has 30 pages of notes and ideas for every paragraph we see, so its a shame he didn't have anything for this. The article that he wrote for the Raicho was just recycled stuff.
2018/08/03 23:29:26
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
jake wrote: ...Gutier seems like the kind of person who probably has 30 pages of notes and ideas for every paragraph we see...
This is exactly the case. I recall several people who observed him at conventions, the NOVA Open and the one in Colorado that went belly up --Feast of Blades?-- who noted that he was always writing things down in a notebook, and in very small, neat handwriting.
2018/08/04 13:25:33
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Knight wrote: Another MIAD or simply MI with AD option? Dossiers look nice. Nothing really indicating a variety of equipment options but who knows.
ADHI.
Invincible army should be able to run all HI lists. That’s always been their thing.
Really excited for new utility remotes sculpts finally making their way out. With such a huge catalogue I’m always in favor of resculpts to slow the growth & bloat.
Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing
2018/08/04 20:50:50
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Knight wrote: Another MIAD or simply MI with AD option? Dossiers look nice. Nothing really indicating a variety of equipment options but who knows.
ADHI.
Invincible army should be able to run all HI lists. That’s always been their thing.
Really excited for new utility remotes sculpts finally making their way out. With such a huge catalogue I’m always in favor of resculpts to slow the growth & bloat.
I think they meant the Echo Bravo.
2018/08/04 20:51:41
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Knight wrote: Another MIAD or simply MI with AD option? Dossiers look nice. Nothing really indicating a variety of equipment options but who knows.
ADHI.
Invincible army should be able to run all HI lists. That’s always been their thing.
Really excited for new utility remotes sculpts finally making their way out. With such a huge catalogue I’m always in favor of resculpts to slow the growth & bloat.
I think they meant the Echo Bravo.
He said paratrooper in that portion. Maybe just Lvl1 parachutist?
Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing
2018/08/04 20:57:14
Subject: Re:The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Knight wrote: Another MIAD or simply MI with AD option? Dossiers look nice. Nothing really indicating a variety of equipment options but who knows.
ADHI.
Invincible army should be able to run all HI lists. That’s always been their thing.
Really excited for new utility remotes sculpts finally making their way out. With such a huge catalogue I’m always in favor of resculpts to slow the growth & bloat.
I think they meant the Echo Bravo.
He said paratrooper in that portion. Maybe just Lvl1 parachutist?
I think he meant paratrooper in general, as in a trooper with AD.
Edit: looks like the same jet pack as the Akal and Crusader Brethren so I’d assume the same level of AD.
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2018/08/04 21:30:07
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Concept art makes me think it will be AD3. Bostria seemed excited for the Adepticon announcement. Maybe the IA finally reveals?
Speaking of new sectorials, when are the sectorial lists for the new sectorials releasing? November?
I think Bostria was holding out on us. He's saving the really good news for Interplanetario in 2 weeks. And possibly the bad news. Acontecimento explodes.
2018/08/04 22:06:29
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
I'm guessing January for the new Sectorials and a book with IA, Tunguska, Varuna, TAK, and Vedic...and Adepticon announcing a new Tohaa Sectorial and the revamped Shasvastii.
2018/08/04 22:30:45
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Was the Helot always in the fluff? Or is that totally new?
If it was already there was it always a fishman? Or did somebody at CB just really like Shape of Water?
Knight wrote: Another MIAD or simply MI with AD option? Dossiers look nice. Nothing really indicating a variety of equipment options but who knows.
ADHI.
Invincible army should be able to run all HI lists. That’s always been their thing.
Really excited for new utility remotes sculpts finally making their way out. With such a huge catalogue I’m always in favor of resculpts to slow the growth & bloat.
I think they meant the Echo Bravo.
He said paratrooper in that portion. Maybe just Lvl1 parachutist?
I think he meant paratrooper in general, as in a trooper with AD.
Edit: looks like the same jet pack as the Akal and Crusader Brethren so I’d assume the same level of AD.
Yeah, I can’t believe that PanO would be using the low tech version of any skill like that.
But who knows, it might have level x tactical jump for all we know.
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Kanluwen wrote: I'm guessing January for the new Sectorials and a book with IA, Tunguska, Varuna, TAK, and Vedic...and Adepticon announcing a new Tohaa Sectorial and the revamped Shasvastii.
Lotta you guys think we’ll get a book as soon as January.
What then will that big black N be? Something totally out of left field?
I dont know how much they ought to monkey with things; Infinity with N3 seems to be in a good place overall right now.
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Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing
2018/08/04 22:57:16
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Damnit, I JUST bought and assembled a Celestial Guard SWC box last week! I guess silver lining is that I'll have 2 Kuang Shi control devices when the new one releases *grumble* Mostly I'm just mad because I want all of the stuff in that Carlos update video in my life, right now. Lovely stuff, especially the Haqq remote resculpts (and hopefully the Aleph remotes, carlos was deliberately vague as to if they are resculpts or not). Also the Hollow Men box is awesome. IDGAF about shasvasti, but it's great to hear the reworked models are coming next year, same fr th Yu Jing Invincible Army which is looking solid.
But my favorite part was the faction update cartoons, the Yu Jing is my fav
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