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 Monkeysloth wrote:
 Red Harvest wrote:


It certainly has a fair few Tohaa players who are less than gruntled with it.



Interesting enough. On the new forum IJW is saying that CB doesn't consider Tohaa a faction but only a Sectorial thus the limited amount of profiles and releases. Out of all the people that would say anything about what CB thinks/does he's probably the only one who's now an employee I would trust.

here's the quote
As I was one of the people pointing it out in the Warcor thread, Tohaa were are and are considered to be equivalent to a Sectorial by CB. It's how the force was designed and is why they generally only have one or two units in a given role and overall have a smaller range than the other 'main' factions.



Carlos said much the same about the other UA armies too, including O-12 whenever that happens.

So many games, so little time.

So many models, even less time.

Screw it, Netflix and chill. 
   
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The Tohaa are presented as a full faction. The non-aligned armies are presented as sectorials of the Non-aligned faction. CB may think of the Tohaa as a sectorial, but they have presented them as a full faction, with forthcoming sectorials of their own.

None of which matters, since in either case, the Tohaa still need minis for some units/profiles. Skipping the faction for an entire year does not satisfy customers.

 
   
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 Red Harvest wrote:
Skipping the faction for an entire year does not satisfy customers.


Does not satisfy SOME customers.
I am totally on board with the reallocation of resources. I sucks for the fans of the artichokes, but I am not one of them so more work elsewhere does not anger me.

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It was just a matter of time that the growth on the armies spectrum would be unmanageable for CB.

Splitting the factions into sectorials was a first step.
Adding more factions was another step.
They are releasing now the Non-alligned armies.

Thye keep moving forward but that doesn't mean that they do not have to skip and left some armies behind.

If they release 5 new armies this year, let's say: Varuna, Tunguska, Vedic, invincibles and Ramah Taskforce.
That, my friends, would inevitable lead to saying goodbye to: Qapu khalqi, Acontecimento, SteelPhalanx, Corregidor and JSA (just a guess, just an example here).

I'm speaking specifically about the release schedule here. It's impossible that 5 releases every month can cover 25 armies and satisfy everyone.
And I do not see CB upgrading their current schedule to 6 NEW releases, please, do not count Re-packs here.
CB is not that big.

They have a problem. I think that changing their formula maybe to release a full army, all the miniatures for all the profiles every 3 months, maybe something more classic GW take on this would be better received.

List of current active armies for Infinity right now:

PanOceania
Acontecimento Shock Force
Military Orders
Neoterra Capitaline Army
Varuna Intervention Division (Rumored 2018)

Yu Jing
Imperial Service
Japanese Sectorial Army
Invincible Army (Rumored 2018)

Ariadna
Merovingia Rapid Response Force
Usariadna Ranger Force
Caledonian Highlander Army
Tartary Army Korps (Rumored 2018)

Haqqislam
Qapu Khalqi
Hassassin Bahram
Ramah Raskforce (Rumored 2018)

Nomads
Corregidor Jurisdictional Command
Bakunin Jurisdictional Command
Tunguska Jurisdictional Command (Rumored 2018)

ALEPH
Steel Phalanx
Operations Sub-Section (Rumored 2018)

Combined Army
Onyx Contact force
Morat Aggression Force
Shasvastii Expeditionary Army (Rumored 2019)

Tohaa
Triunvirate Army (Rumored 2019)

NA2 Non-Alligned Armies
Druze Bayram Security
Star Company (Rumored 2018)

Those are 25 armies. That is impossible to sustain in a satisfactory way for the player and the store.

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I'm not sure if every sectorial needs a constant stream of new models. I do think it would probably help to be able to take lists from multiple sectorials as your pair, though I'd probably say no to mixing sectorials and vanilla.
   
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You're probably right there, LunarSol...

Also, why no Svalarheima stuff in that nice list, BobbaFett?

   
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I don't think there's anything wrong with "retiring" some sectorials, especially the less unique ones. They could still remain playable, and may even receive occasional rules updates, but we woudln't be expecting new profiles for them.

That said, I don't know if there's any sectorial thats "model complete". Years ago they said he were done with Qapu and considered it a complete sectorial, but since then its gotten 24 new model releases.

It would be nice if they could concentrate on making some sectorials model complete, then retiring them and moving on to new sectorials.

I also think that a few of the more unique sectorials probably shouldn't really ever be complete.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Alpharius wrote:
You're probably right there, LunarSol...

Also, why no Svalarheima stuff in that nice list, BobbaFett?

Because they weren't slated for this forthcoming book.

Nor has Vedic been. That's been a kinda/sorta recent development that we don't know what is going on with.
   
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... the wait for Acontecimento Regular Hacker with Fast Panda continues.

Spoiler:
I think I've given up on ever seeing the miniature.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 jake wrote:
I don't think there's anything wrong with "retiring" some sectorials, especially the less unique ones. They could still remain playable, and may even receive occasional rules updates, but we woudln't be expecting new profiles for them.

By this same vein, there's a lot that could be done to bring some of those "less unique ones" up to par or into a new, fresh vein without requiring overhauls of the whole setup.

Things like a Haris option for Bolts with Remotes(like the idea I literally kept suggesting in the Bolts threads on the official forums and they went and put it with Druze) or an Engineer option for Minutemen or Marauders, or small things that don't require new models to completely function.

That said, I don't know if there's any sectorial thats "model complete". Years ago they said he were done with Qapu and considered it a complete sectorial, but since then its gotten 24 new model releases.

It would be nice if they could concentrate on making some sectorials model complete, then retiring them and moving on to new sectorials.

I also think that a few of the more unique sectorials probably shouldn't really ever be complete.

I'd say Imperial Service and Steel Phalanx are probably the closest things we have to Sectorials that are "model complete". Maybe USARF as well, although I'd love a triple blister of Foxtrots with a Rifle+LGL, a Foxtrot with a Sniper Rifle, and a crouching Foxtrot with binoculars up to serve as another FO. Same goes for a double blister of Airborne with a Rifle and another with a Boarding Shotgun.


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 Knight wrote:
... the wait for Acontecimento Regular Hacker with Fast Panda continues.

Spoiler:
I think I've given up on ever seeing the miniature.

Probably a smart move. It was sadly a given when they decided to make that weirdly specific ASA box.

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I don't really feel like Bakunin is missing anything. A new Lizard model would be wonderful, but overall the profile options are quite robust across the board.

Corregidor is lacking but I don't think they really need new models at all. They could, I guess, but really their problem is just that a lot of their existing options lack identity and depth, so it feels more limited than it really is. Make Wildcats and Hellcats more interesting and they'd feel pretty complete.

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 LunarSol wrote:
I don't really feel like Bakunin is missing anything. A new Lizard model would be wonderful, but overall the profile options are quite robust across the board.

Corregidor is lacking but I don't think they really need new models at all. They could, I guess, but really their problem is just that a lot of their existing options lack identity and depth, so it feels more limited than it really is. Make Wildcats and Hellcats more interesting and they'd feel pretty complete.


Corregidors main problem is that half the models are in a different fetching scale to the rest due to CB's laziness,incompetence and/or an in ability to give a feth.

I

Your last point is especially laughable and comical, because not only the 7th ed Valkyrie shown dumber things (like being able to throw the troopers without parachutes out of its hatches, no harm done) - Irbis 
   
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Ok great! New Zoe & Co.

Spoiler:



Can we get a new Carlota Kowalsky & Moriarty too?
Spoiler:


They’re also pretty outdated & while a badass, she is awfully static.

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Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing 
   
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SeanDrake wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
I don't really feel like Bakunin is missing anything. A new Lizard model would be wonderful, but overall the profile options are quite robust across the board.

Corregidor is lacking but I don't think they really need new models at all. They could, I guess, but really their problem is just that a lot of their existing options lack identity and depth, so it feels more limited than it really is. Make Wildcats and Hellcats more interesting and they'd feel pretty complete.


Corregidors main problem is that half the models are in a different fetching scale to the rest due to CB's laziness,incompetence and/or an in ability to give a feth.

I


K....

Hellcats are the worst offenders, but most of the rest is fine. Even then its basically just the contents of their starter box that are notably off outside of 1-2 specific profiles. Given how much HAS been updated, I think they're largely fine.

I'd love for Carlota to be better. She pays a lot of points to basically just be a Tomcat with slightly better stats.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

 LunarSol wrote:
SeanDrake wrote:
 LunarSol wrote:
I don't really feel like Bakunin is missing anything. A new Lizard model would be wonderful, but overall the profile options are quite robust across the board.

Corregidor is lacking but I don't think they really need new models at all. They could, I guess, but really their problem is just that a lot of their existing options lack identity and depth, so it feels more limited than it really is. Make Wildcats and Hellcats more interesting and they'd feel pretty complete.


Corregidors main problem is that half the models are in a different fetching scale to the rest due to CB's laziness,incompetence and/or an in ability to give a feth.

I


K....

Hellcats are the worst offenders, but most of the rest is fine. Even then its basically just the contents of their starter box that are notably off outside of 1-2 specific profiles. Given how much HAS been updated, I think they're largely fine.

I'd love for Carlota to be better. She pays a lot of points to basically just be a Tomcat with slightly better stats.

Quite frankly, anything that was Corregidor done pre-Icestorm should be revised.

Hellcats, by the by, are actually some of the better ones for revision since they have very few models available. Their HMG profile no longer is sold, the Boarding Shotgun is packaged with the Hacker now, and the Spitfire model just got released with "Beyond Icestorm". The starter set Hellcat has the 'basic' profile of CR+LFT.

Wildcats are a whole different kettle of fish.

In any regards, Corregidor can be 'fixed' pretty quickly with a resculpted starter set.
3x CR+LFT Wildcats done in the new scale=fixed
1x Intruder with CR+LFT in the new scale=fixed
1x Hellcat with CR+LFT in the new scale=fixed

That leaves an open slot since the CJC starter included an Alguacile Hacker(which later got its own blister, supposedly so that "Merovingian players wouldn't have to split boxes"...realistically it's because the Alguacile Hacker looked wildly out of place in any of the promotional shots they would have done) where you can include a Tomcat, another Hellcat, another Wildcat, or another Intruder--or possibly even a Mobile Brigada 'variant' loadout(MR+LFT, CR, BSG) just for the sake of having an alternate way of acquiring a model that otherwise is in the Mobile Brigada OR vanilla Nomad starter.

Hell, if they really wanted to put in a "Corregidor specific" model that would guarantee the box keeps being a seller, even if it is just for people parting it out? Senor Massacre in the box.
And just for fun, it turns out that can actually be done for under 150 points--which is right around where most Sectorial boxes tend to sit!

Spoiler:
Jurisdictional Command of Corregidor
──────────────────────────────────────────────────

6
SEÑOR MASSACRE Boarding Shotgun, E/M Grenades, Eclipse Grenades / Pistol, AP CCW, E/M CCW. (0 | 26)
HELLCAT Combi Rifle / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 22)
WILDCAT Lieutenant Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)
WILDCAT (Number 2) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 20)
INTRUDER Hacker (Hacking Device) Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower / Pistol, CCW. (0.5 | 43)
WILDCAT Combi Rifle + Light Flamethrower, D-Charges / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 19)

0.5 SWC | 149 Points

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With that done? You'd just need a Wildcats box(Hacker, BSG with Stun Grenades and Deployable Repeater, Spitfire, HRL) to finish out their options, you could stand to have the Hellcats that are in a double blister potentially resculpted(they actually fit fairly well with the Spitfire sculpt from Beyond Icestorm--a bit skinnier in spots but otherwise a-okay), the Tomcats that aren't the Doctor could use a resculpt, and the Moran could really use it. Throw in a lone Intruder with CR+LFT blister and bam, you've basically fixed the range in a few months worth of releases.

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Why not a Daktari instead of a character or an HI?

   
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Gathering the Informations.

 Barzam wrote:
Why not a Daktari instead of a character or an HI?

Because Daktari are low AVA and in the Support Pack.

With regards to HI, Corregidor 'only' has the Mobile Brigada and Geckos. The Mobile Brigadas are pretty well covered for releases between their box and the model from the vanilla Nomad starter(although he could definitely use a second set of arms just so as to be able to not be so boringly repetitive--same with the Orc for PanO). The only profile they are currently missing is a Combi Rifle one, but since that one also has a CR+Tinbot variant...I think they might honestly be saving it for a rainy day blister at some point.

If not Massacre, I'd lean towards something like a Tomcat or possibly even a second Intruder profile. I could see that being a place for a third Intruder with MSR model(the male version that's currently available in a blister seems to be destined for the scrapheap as soon as/if the female one from Beyond Icestorm is made generally available). Could also see it being a spot for another Hellcat or a fourth Wildcat or even a MB with CR.

Sidenote: I'm trying to think of anywhere that has had something like the Daktari in a starter set and drawing a blank. Do you know of any?

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 Kanluwen wrote:
[...]Corregidor can be 'fixed' pretty quickly[...]


Yes, but... Does "Corregidor" needs fixing?

Let's just look at the whole question from a "Evil company" angle: Why fixing an army that is already popular?

From my perception, Nomads and specially Corregidor have been superpopular since 2014. Massive present in ITS/Flamestrike/Wotan/forums and my local meta.
Shoudl CB stick to make the popular armies better or should the company care about other armies that are going through "tough times" like the Tohaa. I've been reading huge statements full of tears from Tohaa players recently.

I mean, from what we've seen, it's like CB is always giving love to PanO/Yu Jing and Combined Army constantly, then, Ariadna and Haqqislam have no reason to complain at all. ALEPH players complain about not having Vedic and Tohaa are right at the end of the line.

The whole N3 standard for miniatures began with the Morats and Icestorm, from that point, the "quality stain" kept on expanding until almost all the factions got plenty of N3 stuff except ALEPH and Tohaa IMHO.
The Corregidor N3 thing happen right when their range was already being re-sculpted, that's why there is a noticeable scale gap between the Corregidor starter Pack and the Icestorm Nomad starter pack.

Wich army deserves priority here?
ALEPH, Tohaa or Corregidor?
   
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Main concern I'd have is if we're getting five army splash releases this year, what does that do for the normal release schedule?

So many games, so little time.

So many models, even less time.

Screw it, Netflix and chill. 
   
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 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Ok great! New Zoe & Co.


I think you mean a new character with a recycled name. I'm be saving money on not buy that mini.

 Bladerunner2019 wrote:
Can we get a new Carlota Kowalsky & Moriarty too?

They’re also pretty outdated & while a badass, she is awfully static.


Sure, it can look like Skunk Anasasie (read: Skin) too with its EXTEME! styling. Seriously CB, you're trying too hard.
   
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Gathering the Informations.

Dire Foes description:
Candy Double, the great star of Maya and famous investigator, has found out the Combined Army's plan to alter the Dark Mist technology released on the planet Dawn, turning these clouds of visual interference into a deadly weapon. It's time to stop the lethal clouds and Candy Double too, because the star must not reveal the EI's plan, to avoid spreading panic throughout the Human Sphere.
   
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Candy Double, the great star of Maya and famous investigator, has found out the Combined Army's plan to alter the Dark Mist technology released on the planet Dawn, turning these clouds of visual interference into a deadly weapon


Sounds ok

It's time to stop the lethal clouds and Candy Double too


Wait, but I thought Candy was the one doing the stopping?


*sigh* CB please hire a native English speaker. It just really grinds me when descriptions switch subject like that.

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It’s time to stop the lethal clouds and stop Candy Double from revealing the EI plan and causing panic.
   
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Yeah, read simple enough to me. Though I try to read to the end of the sentences.

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I know it was likely posted fairly recently, but can anyone give us a summary of upcoming releases Feb, Mar, Apr to the best of our knowledge?

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Is that a natural 21?
Nomads & Yu Jing 
   
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referring back to the Cancon/LVO seminars

Feb:
Irmandinhos
Garuda
Hospitaller Knights
Kuang Shi
Bit & Kiss
Spektrs (repack)
Al Hawwa (repack)

March:
Dire Foes 7 (Candy Cloud)
Shikami - contender
Asawiara - spitfire
Black Jack - ap hmg
Kurgat - shotgun
Nisses (repack)

April:
big thing.

So many games, so little time.

So many models, even less time.

Screw it, Netflix and chill. 
   
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 Micky wrote:
April:
big thing.


Guessing also somewhat controversial. It's listed as 'HOW DARE YOU?' or something similar on the slide.
   
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It'll be infinity V4, using Aristea dice as a base.

   
 
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