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2018/04/03 17:38:28
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
PsychoticStorm wrote: It is a temporary ban they will come back later in the ITS season, a bit changed.
It's also a stupid idea, no matter the justification.
Thanks, even if it turns out to be a stupid idea, why not try and see how it really turns out?
Yeah let me go try out something that's going to arbitrarily limit characters that should have been reworked instead of hamfisted into Human Sphere N3 or Infinity N3! That sounds like a great idea!
Maybe while we're at it, we can split the Military Orders off into their own faction and get rid of the cancer that is Bipandra too! /sarcasm
Except the Bipandra thing. That wasn't sarcasm. That's the worst Dire Foe out there next to Rosie in terms of both sculpt and rules.
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2018/04/03 19:56:50
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Well we knew the other shoe was going to drop, but you've gotta love it anyways. Yu Jing just has most of its characters taken away and now one of our most competitive pieces in our only remaining sectorial gets plucked out.
Narrative and tournaments just don't mix, but hey, at least everyone got screwed this time!
Oh well, my group doesn't pretend ITS has any relevance at our table, but I've gotta feel for my Yu Jing brothers in the competitive scene right now. Vanilla lost a ton of profiles and now our only other sectorial just lost one of its best characters for the season.
I swear, when I come back to look at the state of the game a year from now, part of me is wondering if the game will consist of two Ghazi just throwing rocks at each other after some cataclysmic galaxy wide civil war leaves no one left to fight.
2018/04/03 20:49:14
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Imperial Service--but even then it's not really true since the SpecOps that got yanked is one of the "Getting Started" suggestions for Infinity alongside of Tarik Mansuri in the Red Veil boxed set.
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2018/04/03 21:54:40
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Imperial Service--but even then it's not really true since the SpecOps that got yanked is one of the "Getting Started" suggestions for Infinity alongside of Tarik Mansuri in the Red Veil boxed set.
See I got the Red Veil set and wanted to get the Dire Foes and the Beyond sets to go with it as I'm not so good at list building right now so I find this to be pretty obnoxious.
2018/04/03 21:57:39
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
See I got the Red Veil set and wanted to get the Dire Foes and the Beyond sets to go with it as I'm not so good at list building right now so I find this to be pretty obnoxious.
Aw c'mon, isn't it Great Narrative for the Infinity Tournament System to remove characters from play for you?
2018/04/03 22:10:42
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
See I got the Red Veil set and wanted to get the Dire Foes and the Beyond sets to go with it as I'm not so good at list building right now so I find this to be pretty obnoxious.
Aw c'mon, isn't it Great Narrative for the Infinity Tournament System to remove characters from play for you?
Ones that veteran players might use and come in blisters that don't go with a series of promoted purchases like Rao, sure that isn't so bad but something like Tarik or Xi no it's super annoying.
No joke I was going to buy both sets Thursday.
2018/04/03 22:12:03
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
See I got the Red Veil set and wanted to get the Dire Foes and the Beyond sets to go with it as I'm not so good at list building right now so I find this to be pretty obnoxious.
Aw c'mon, isn't it Great Narrative for the Infinity Tournament System to remove characters from play for you?
Ones that veteran players might use and come in blisters that don't go with a series of promoted purchases like Rao, sure that isn't so bad but something like Tarik or Xi no it's super annoying.
No joke I was going to buy both sets Thursday.
Unless you're playing ITS, it won't matter.
In all honesty, I'd grab them if I were you. A Warcor I trust has been dropping hints that B4(KD00R event is so they can rejig existing "problem" characters. If you want to though, feel free to toss me a PM and I can help you cook up some lists and the like.
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2018/04/03 22:31:53
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Well, it only affects ITS play, and since I haven't played in a tournament in several years, it matters to me not one whit, heck, not even half a whit.
Those ITS Escalation league players relying on Haqq Red Veil & Beyond Red Veil are a bit hosed. Not nice to do to beginners.
Brother Gecko, go ahead and get the Beyond Red Veil box if you were planning to. Tarik Mansuri may be side-lined, but the unit will return to Haqq in some form. He is an iconic Haqq character. The Beyond Red Veil set is a nice way to get a pair of 300 point forces if you have the Operation:Red Veil box. Disclosure: I have both.
2018/04/03 22:45:19
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Tarik was basically the deciding factor in getting the Beyond set so without him and if he has a chance of getting nerfed I'm comfortable with just not making those purchases. I have some other Haqq models, I just felt the purchase progression might have given me a more organic way to learn than my previous attempts.
I have Onyx Contact Force stuff to fiddle with. I swear though everytime I start to throw money at CB they convince me not to lol.
I will just wait for Hakims and the dream to play RTF before the end of the century.
2018/04/03 22:51:27
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Gonna be honest here, the version I expect to see get changed is the AP Rifle+LSG version(which is blister only). Spitfire is the BRV set.
I'm guessing that what will happen is Fatality will be put only onto the Spitfire profile to make it in line with the Khawarji.
2018/04/03 22:55:50
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Kanluwen wrote: Gonna be honest here, the version I expect to see get changed is the AP Rifle+LSG version(which is blister only). Spitfire is the BRV set.
I'm guessing that what will happen is Fatality will be put only onto the Spitfire profile to make it in line with the Khawarji.
I have pretty limited experience but the khwarji never failed to disappoint me haha. I would hope he wouldn't align more closely to his whimpy little siblings. They should of pulled the khawrji and rework them. I would of been happy to see that because I adore the model.
Either way I can just not buy the set and not have to worry about what may or may not happen.
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2018/04/03 22:59:42
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Kanluwen wrote: Gonna be honest here, the version I expect to see get changed is the AP Rifle+LSG version(which is blister only). Spitfire is the BRV set. I'm guessing that what will happen is Fatality will be put only onto the Spitfire profile to make it in line with the Khawarji.
I have pretty limited experience but the khwarji never failed to disappoint me lol. I would hope he wouldn't align more closely to his whimpy little siblings. They should of pulled the khawrji and rework them lol. I would of been happy to see that because I adore the model.
Well the big thing is that right now, Fatality is a Big Deal. I've, personally, been suspecting that they're demoing it to try to make TAG weapons a bit more "oomph" compared to their wimpy human toted siblings.
Is it going to be amazing? I dunno. But I like it. I like Zhayedans and I like Khawarijs. I keep the extra points to play around with depending upon who gets AVA 5 or Total in RTF.
Either way I can just not buy the set and not have to worry about what may or may not happen.
Or you can grab yourself those sweet, sweet Naffatuns.
Who wants to be on fire? You do!
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2018/04/03 23:29:09
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
PanOceanía: Lieutenant Stephen Rao, Bagh Mari Unit
Yu Jing: Guǐ Fēng Xi Zhuang
Ariadna: Col. Yevgueni Voronin.
Haqqislam: Tarik Mansuri
Nómadas: Reverend Superior Cassandra Kusanagi
ALEPH: Andromeda
A couple of these very obviously needed a revamp in some fashion. A couple of them are probably very underused (I've never seen Andromeda or Voronin on the table, personally).
Tarik and Xi Zhuang stand out as "why?" though.
You could argue that Xi Zhuang was on the block since he's the only Yu Jing character that isn't a pawn of Aleph, but even so. Both he and Tarik have really good profiles that aren't unfair or janky or broken or burdened by legacy, and both see plenty of table time.
The other four? Yeah, can totally see that.
In fact i'd not be surprised if the Kusanagi revamp comes with a resculpt too, since Bakunin has been getting some attention lately.
So many games, so little time.
So many models, even less time.
Screw it, Netflix and chill.
2018/04/03 23:37:56
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Maybe while we're at it, we can split the Military Orders off into their own faction and get rid of the cancer that is Bipandra too!
/sarcasm
Except the Bipandra thing. That wasn't sarcasm. That's the worst Dire Foe out there next to Rosie in terms of both sculpt and rules.
As one of the many here whose life has been impacted by actual cancer and not just been mildly inconvenienced in a game of toy soldiers - stop. If you're an adult your vocabulary should be broad enough to have an applicable noun at hand.
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Micky wrote: PanOceanía: Lieutenant Stephen Rao, Bagh Mari Unit
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A couple of these very obviously needed a revamp in some fashion.
That was my thought. Actually kind've excited to see what they do with Rao. I've been quietly collecting enough models to make a functioning SAA force for a while but never saw the point in taking him, which is a shame as the model is excellent.
Although, given how dire his stats to points ratio is, I don't see the reason for having to tell people not to use him. It's like a sign asking someone not to put their hand in the raging hot fire.
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The galaxy is littered with the single-planet graveyards of civilisations which made the economically sensible decision not to explore space.
2018/04/04 00:09:18
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Maybe while we're at it, we can split the Military Orders off into their own faction and get rid of the cancer that is Bipandra too! /sarcasm
Except the Bipandra thing. That wasn't sarcasm. That's the worst Dire Foe out there next to Rosie in terms of both sculpt and rules.
As one of the many here whose life has been impacted by actual cancer and not just been mildly inconvenienced in a game of toy soldiers - stop. If you're an adult your vocabulary should be broad enough to have an applicable noun at hand.
While I'm sorry that you've had to deal with cancer, it is an applicable noun in the context I used it here.
In deference to your statement however, I will endeavor to try to not use it again. I make no guarantees on being successful but I will attempt it.
Micky wrote: PanOceanía: Lieutenant Stephen Rao, Bagh Mari Unit .....
A couple of these very obviously needed a revamp in some fashion.
That was my thought. Actually kind've excited to see what they do with Rao. I've been quietly collecting enough models to make a functioning SAA force for a while but never saw the point in taking him, which is a shame as the model is excellent.
Although, given how dire his stats to points ratio is, I don't see the reason for having to tell people not to use him. It's like a sign asking someone not to put their hand in the raging hot fire.
This is actually kind of funny to me since Rao is actually considered by many a "must have" for SAA. He's 23 pts and 0 SWC with a CR+LSG and Assault Pistol vs a normal Bagh-Mari LT with CR+LSG and Pistol for 22pts and 1 SWC.
He also allows for you to have 6 Bagh-Mari, effectively, on the field and have some wiggle room for Haris. This is the basis for a little list I keep rattling around:
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Shock Army of Acontecimento ──────────────────────────────────────────────────
This is actually kind of funny to me since Rao is actually considered by many a "must have" for SAA. He's 23 pts and 0 SWC with a CR+LSG and Assault Pistol vs a normal Bagh-Mari LT with CR+LSG and Pistol for 22pts and 1 SWC.
Yeah, personally I think they want him to be more than merely a slightly better costed Bagh-Mari LT. I'd expect him to come out of this costing more but having more kit.
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So many games, so little time.
So many models, even less time.
Screw it, Netflix and chill.
2018/04/04 00:35:56
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
How about chancre to describe Bipandra. The unit is certainly a sore spot for many.
Rao is a decent choice in ASA. A must take prior to the change in Bagh-Mari AVA, and still a pretty good choice. I'm not certain what CB could do with the profile and still keep him Bagh-Mari.
2018/04/04 00:49:25
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
I think you might be. Ever since they changed the way Chain of Command works, he's basically been a joke. His whole schtick was that you could bring him on to remove the Loss of Lieutenant status.
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Red Harvest wrote: How about chancre to describe Bipandra. The unit is certainly a sore spot for many.
I'm going to go with "blight".
Truthfully? She's a sore spot because she's poorly designed and just doesn't measure up to any of the other Dire Foes. If they had done something like her being G: Sync'd with Angus, it would have been a truly interesting thing.
She is, for me, the perfect example of why PanO army design is considered extremely lackluster.
Rao is a decent choice in ASA. A must take prior to the change in Bagh-Mari AVA, and still a pretty good choice. I'm not certain what CB could do with the profile and still keep him Bagh-Mari.
Speaking for myself, I'd like to see Rao get a Marksman Rifle and AP Mine profile.
Give him something that lets him potentially rough up some things at longer range and add to the mine spam.
I'd also give him access to Duo with another Bagh-Mari so you could run a Haris and Duo at the same time.
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2018/04/04 00:56:40
Subject: The Infinity News and Rumors Thread - The 2018 Edition
Haqqislam
7 
KHAWARIJ (Fatality L2) Spitfire / Pistol, 
TARIK MANSURI Lieutenant Spitfire, Nanopulser, Grenades / Pistol, 
ZHAYEDAN (Marksmanship L2) Breaker Rifle + Light Shotgun / Pistol, Knife. (0 | 31)
Shock Army of Acontecimento
LT. STEPHEN RAO Lieutenant Combi Rifle / Assault Pistol, Knife. (0 | 23)
BAGH-MARI 