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Anti gravity tech was more prevalent in Imperium before/during HH but just HOW prevalent? Jetbikes etc exists so there's that but whatabout civilian use? Specifically could there be anti-gravity lifts basically?

Making terrain for HH and one piece has looots of height. There's going to be driveway that basically loops around 2 sides up starting from opposite directions. This is wide enough for rhino chassis basically. However this leaves 2 sides which would be impassable and for infantry drive way would still be rather...Slow solution. 20" or so one side, 20" or so other and then you are at top. Good terrain niece, playable terrain even better!

So basically I'm looking for a method that would allow infantry(say terminator sized or smaller) to move quickly to top of this 6" cliff. I thought first elevators but the traditional ones are generally so slow(having sometimes wait for it to come etc) that it would have to have some sort of movement delay to make sense. Then I thought scifi movies where you have these anti-gravity tubes where you step in, gets lifted(or lowered) and step forward. This would basically allow infantry to step in and potentially get up fast! Would need 2 tubes as logically same tube couldn't really be used for both directions but that's allright.

But is that bit too high-tech even for great crusade Imperium(and specifically Earth since we imagine our battles to be set during siege of terra)? Any obscure piece of fluff that would describe something like that?

tneva82 wrote:
Anti gravity tech was more prevalent in Imperium before/during HH but just HOW prevalent? Jetbikes etc exists so there's that but whatabout civilian use? Specifically could there be anti-gravity lifts basically?

Making terrain for HH and one piece has looots of height. There's going to be driveway that basically loops around 2 sides up starting from opposite directions. This is wide enough for rhino chassis basically. However this leaves 2 sides which would be impassable and for infantry drive way would still be rather...Slow solution. 20" or so one side, 20" or so other and then you are at top. Good terrain niece, playable terrain even better!

So basically I'm looking for a method that would allow infantry(say terminator sized or smaller) to move quickly to top of this 6" cliff. I thought first elevators but the traditional ones are generally so slow(having sometimes wait for it to come etc) that it would have to have some sort of movement delay to make sense. Then I thought scifi movies where you have these anti-gravity tubes where you step in, gets lifted(or lowered) and step forward. This would basically allow infantry to step in and potentially get up fast! Would need 2 tubes as logically same tube couldn't really be used for both directions but that's allright.

But is that bit too high-tech even for great crusade Imperium(and specifically Earth since we imagine our battles to be set during siege of terra)? Any obscure piece of fluff that would describe something like that?

Anti-grav is around for civilians in 40k they use it in vehicles so 30k is likely similar if not more common.

There were exactly the lifts you describe in the Book of the Astronomican campaign - the very first supplement for Rogue Trader. I don't recall it being mentioned in the fluff since either in 30k or 40K but could be wrong.

Well if there's official mention of such lifts in official book, even if old, then great! Good enough excuse! And 30k is more likely to have than 40k so being in 30k is no issue. So even if it's old I'll happily take it to have playable terrain piece. Without faster way(but still not just "touch any piece of cliff and you are at up". Getting to elevator is good enough) ensures it's not just huge LOS blocking cliff but something you might send (non-skimmer) troops to fight over!

Plan is to have 2 such raised areas with ~12" square for buildings etc and then build(obviously not fixed in place) bridge to connect them so I can have battles happening on ground and up in the air over the bridge.

tneva82 wrote:
Well if there's official mention of such lifts in official book, even if old, then great! Good enough excuse! And 30k is more likely to have than 40k so being in 30k is no issue. So even if it's old I'll happily take it to have playable terrain piece. Without faster way(but still not just "touch any piece of cliff and you are at up". Getting to elevator is good enough) ensures it's not just huge LOS blocking cliff but something you might send (non-skimmer) troops to fight over!

Plan is to have 2 such raised areas with ~12" square for buildings etc and then build(obviously not fixed in place) bridge to connect them so I can have battles happening on ground and up in the air over the bridge.

Not with my books - but it was when they used to have the floor plans for us in both 40k and Dredd so quite a few things like this were included. I think it might also be in the Paranoia/40k scenario in a WD many decades ago.

The idea is fun Hope it works well in the game.

If any place is going to have it would be Terra.

Anti grav id a major thing there- there are entire cities (and areas larger) that float in the sky because of anti grav, and the super awesome custodes equipment is based on Terran NOT Martian tech, some of which (like adrathic weapons) the Emperor has forbade Mars having access to entirely.

So since your setting is on terra during 30k, go for it!

The confusing part is civilian Grav cars are a thing but Grav millitary vehicles are almost entirely limited to land speeders.

I think the OP's idea is entirely fine (and awesome!) Such grav lifts may even be pre-Imperial tech that has survived, and has it's own built in repair systems that have maintained it for thousands of years. Humanity was extremely advanced before the age of strife.

Carlovonsexron wrote:If any place is going to have it would be Terra.

Anti grav id a major thing there- there are entire cities (and areas larger) that float in the sky because of anti grav, and the super awesome custodes equipment is based on Terran NOT Martian tech, some of which (like adrathic weapons) the Emperor has forbade Mars having access to entirely.

So since your setting is on terra during 30k, go for it!

I think Custodes do use tech that is possible for the Mechanicus to produce too. They basically take the best tech from a variety of sources, most of which is not tech the Martians have access to. For example, some of the tech comes from tech-enclaves on satellites in the Sol system, like the Moon and Illiastus, so neither a Terran or Martian source.

changemod wrote:The confusing part is civilian Grav cars are a thing but Grav millitary vehicles are almost entirely limited to land speeders.

I would think this is because the civilian vehicles do not have sufficiently powerful or robust plates, or have too short of a range before refueling/recharging is required. It may simply be that the more efficient versions of the tech required to make militarily useful vehicles is what has been lost over 10,000 years. No one wants to go into battle in a flimsy vehicle that is the 40k equivalent of a Cessna.

Part of it is down to doctrine, rather than technical ability; for example, Land Raiders were removed from Army units by order of the Emperor during the Heresy, to preserve dwindling supplies for the Legions. After the Heresy, no-one wanted to rescind that order, so now Land Raiders are used exclusively by Space Marines.

But the Guard get the... *ahem* CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT for all their heavy troop delivery role. Who needs land raiders when you have CRASSUS ARM... you get the idea

changemod wrote:
The confusing part is civilian Grav cars are a thing but Grav millitary vehicles are almost entirely limited to land speeders.

Maybe Grav is too hard to maintain for widespread military use. Likely it is energy intensive, which is fine for civilians because they have access to a powergrid and plentiful fuel, but would make it inappropriate for prolonged use in the field where neither of those are the case. There is obviously some kind of weight limit, because almost all of the anti-grav vehicles are less armoured than their tracked counter parts. So in most cases tracks are preferred, being reliable and efficient, in addition to being much cheaper to manufacture.