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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:36:35
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Am I missunderstanding something? I though we in 5th edition had 3 bases. Small (infantery) middel (ravaner/terminator) and big terminator.
Are my old spacemarines on 25mm bases? Are the new once on 32mm bases? I am confused. I bumped into this when looking for bases for my cultists (gene.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:37:35
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yeah, Space Marines are now on 32 mm bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:39:39
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Niiai wrote:Am I missunderstanding something? I though we in 5th edition had 3 bases. Small (infantery) middel (ravaner/terminator) and big terminator.
Are my old spacemarines on 25mm bases? Are the new once on 32mm bases? I am confused. I bumped into this when looking for bases for my cultists (gene.)
They changed it like they changed terminators from 28 to 40's
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:41:30
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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My 5th edition mazrines, are they on 25 or on 32? I thought they where on 25.
Genstealers are also 25 right? Even though they are tapdancing like angels on a pin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:43:49
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Normal Space Marines used to be supplied with 25 mm bases, just like most other infantry in the game, but a few years ago they started supplying them with 32 mm bases instead. People are of different opinions as to whether you should be expected to re-base your old marines or not.
There are also many more base sizes than the three you list. Circular 25, 32, 40, 50, 65 (wtf?), 90, oval "bike" bases and oval flyer bases are the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there are more.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:46:09
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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When I will update my SW to 8th edition I would like to rebase them. But I glkued them with the damn plastic glue, it will be very hard to remove them.
Are DE still on 25 bases? Puny darj eldar. ^_^
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:49:22
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Niiai wrote:When I will update my SW to 8th edition I would like to rebase them. But I glkued them with the damn plastic glue, it will be very hard to remove them.
Are DE still on 25 bases? Puny darj eldar. ^_^
DE are for the most part on 25 mm bases still, with the exception of Grotesques and maybe a few others, as are the infantry of most non-Marine factions.
Niiai wrote:My 5th edition mazrines, are they on 25 or on 32? I thought they where on 25.
Genstealers are also 25 right? Even though they are tapdancing like angels on a pin.
5th ed marines are normally on 25 mm bases.
This box set contains eight multi-part plastic Genestealers, and includes a host of additional components allowing you to represent a number of weapon-symbiotes or biomorph enhancements. Models supplied with 25mm round bases.
From https://www.games-workshop.com/en-SE/Tyranid-Genestealer-Brood
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:51:30
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Niiai wrote:When I will update my SW to 8th edition I would like to rebase them. But I glkued them with the damn plastic glue, it will be very hard to remove them.
Get these:
http://ttadapters.com/index.php/product/10x-adapters-25-32mm/
Are DE still on 25 bases? Puny darj eldar. ^_^
Yes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 22:57:26
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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Crimson, those adapters look really nifty. I'm going to recommend them to a friend who is considering rebasing old marines. Thanks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/17 23:57:05
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Liche Priest Hierophant
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Thanks. My basing skills has gone up since then, so I wanne scrapp a lot of them. I will take the base extenders into consideration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/18 01:20:25
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Dakka Veteran
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Any adapters that upgrade the 25mm to 40mm? I've a couple of Terminator squads in the old bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/18 06:43:03
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Locked in the Tower of Amareo
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Cream Tea wrote: People are of different opinions as to whether you should be expected to re-base your old marines or not.
Answer is nope. Only one demanding that are some players and they have no legal right to do that. If somebody feels so strongly others need then they can pay and do it and do it to same quality as original one without damaging the model in the process. That's fair proposition.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/18 23:13:42
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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tneva82 wrote: Cream Tea wrote: People are of different opinions as to whether you should be expected to re-base your old marines or not.
Answer is nope. Only one demanding that are some players and they have no legal right to do that. If somebody feels so strongly others need then they can pay and do it and do it to same quality as original one without damaging the model in the process. That's fair proposition.
There are probably players out there who refuse to play against 25 mm based marines, and that's totally fine. Outside of a tournament, it's their choice.
I know of tournaments that expect you to bring your marines on 32 mm bases. If a TO says so, then that's how it is. As for what's "legal" and not, Swedish law doesn't care about what base size I put my Warhammer models on, and I suspect the same goes for other countries as well. Not even the 40k rulebook seems to care, so it's entirely up to players and TOs.
I play against 25 mm marines all the time and have no problem with that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/19 19:59:43
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Bookmarked that adapter site. Thanks for that info.
I noticed the difference in base size that came with some boxes I purchased late last year, and wondered about having to move my units on 25mm bases to the larger size. Hopefully this will take care of the problem!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 00:38:39
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Niiai wrote:My 5th edition mazrines, are they on 25 or on 32? I thought they where on 25.
Genstealers are also 25 right? Even though they are tapdancing like angels on a pin.
New marines are on 33 mm, yes. Fastest way to rebase would be to cut off the rim of old base leaving only flat part, glue it on top of 33 mm base, then add basing to remaining spots. Will also add 1-2 mm of height to a marine, making it closer in size to current models (current SM are good 3-4 mm taller than ones that came with 25 mm bases).
Genestealers are 25 mm, but might be moving to 33 mm once updated. Some newer Genestealers, like Overkill ones, are already 33 mm.
tneva82 wrote: Cream Tea wrote: People are of different opinions as to whether you should be expected to re-base your old marines or not.
Answer is nope. Only one demanding that are some players and they have no legal right to do that. If somebody feels so strongly others need then they can pay and do it and do it to same quality as original one without damaging the model in the process. That's fair proposition.
Wrong. You want to play, make sure your models are legal. Your proposal makes as much sense as someone with 4th edition SM codex demanding to get to play it today unless opponent buys him new 8th edition one. Or someone demanding to get to use chess pieces as SM models unless opponent will buy him official GW ones.
Sure, the opponent might agree to play regardless, but it will be on his grace, not some 'right' of player at best too cheap to update, at worst deliberately modelling for advantage (aka, cheating)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 00:54:56
Subject: Re:Bases on SM? Updated?
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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He is my opinion.....like you want to here.
GW is not right in any scene to move to different bases other than make money....than being said. Play with what you have if your opponent agrees. Most likely he will, because he will be in the same predicament as to having to re-base his armies.
Automatically Appended Next Post: Question: Has the base thickness changed? And is there a base thickness rule or standard?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 00:59:15
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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funnily enough looking at my older marines on the smaller bases, they dont look right lol, the 32mm really seems to fit them a lot better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 00:59:20
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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Irbis wrote:
Wrong. You want to play, make sure your models are legal.
I'm sure you can quote the rule in the BRB that tells us the legal Space Marine base sizes? Automatically Appended Next Post: Formosa wrote:funnily enough looking at my older marines on the smaller bases, they dont look right lol, the 32mm really seems to fit them a lot better.
Indeed. And this is the reason to rebase them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 01:22:08
Subject: Re:Bases on SM? Updated?
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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BrotherTri wrote:
Question: Has the base thickness changed? And is there a base thickness rule or standard?
As far as I can tell, the 25 mm bases have looked essentially the same since Rogue Trader, what's changed is just which models are supplied with them.
There are no rules regarding bases at all in the rulebook, except those saying that you measure from them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 01:26:35
Subject: Bases on SM? Updated?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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General standard on bases is "use what they shipped you with the model". In practice nobody's going to complain if you're not obviously modeling for advantage (putting all your Guardsmen on 40mm bases to make them more efficient blockers, for instance), and Space Marines on 25mm or 32mm bases, or 30mm Warmachine bases, or something else that just happens to fall within that range of base sizes, should be fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/20 01:51:07
Subject: Re:Bases on SM? Updated?
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Bounding Ultramarine Assault Trooper
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Ok done some quick search on this. As right now no rule on base size 25mm ver 32mm for SM troops. EW even said you can use either one. That being said your play advantage imo for the lager base.
I'll model what I have.... Automatically Appended Next Post: The Response from Games Workshop
Thanks for the email.
The new 32mm bases were a design choice made by the sculptors, to make the Death Company look more imposing. There is no specific base that you have to use for the Death Company, so should you wish to mount them on the smaller 20mm bases this is fine, but if you would rather have the slightly larger 32mm base, this is also fine.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
Citadel 32mm Round Bases (100 Pack)
$40
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/100-x-32mm-base
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