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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/29 23:49:02
Subject: Inquisition army?
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I'm wanting to add a very small (maybe 500pts) inquisition force to my army but not sure what they would look like in paint scheme (Basically I would buy the Militarum Tempestus starter kit and an inquisitor HQ). Is there any IG Inquistor armies in the lore with a colour scheme shown?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 00:59:43
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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Inquisitors don't have armies of their own. They hire people from other armies to work for them.
Which means that an Inquisitor's force can basically be absolutely everything and can have every possible colour scheme you can think of. Every Militarum Tempestus colour scheme is a viable one, because all of them can get requisitioned by an Inquisitor.
That said, a lot of Inquisitors do seem fond of the colours black and red. A lot of artwork has them wearing those colours. Therefore, painting your stormtroopers black and red (with some nice big inquisition symbols on them) would make them look very much Inquisition-y.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 01:08:12
Subject: Inquisition army?
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"Inquisitorial Stormtroopers" are an outdated lore concept where an Inquisitor might maintain a force under their direct control, rather than appropriating other Imperial forces as necessary. In theory an Inquisitor could have such forces in any armour they felt like (in the same way there's no standardized uniform for an Inquisitor). The iconic colours are black, red, and gold, but there isn't really any reason not to throw those out entirely and do something different.
I will also recommend looking at the Grey Knight kits; you may be just trying to start a small force (or trying to make a playable army) and not interested in a Grey Knight contingent, but there's a lot of extra Inquisitorial iconography/bits in those kits if you're looking for conversion parts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 10:48:00
Subject: Re:Inquisition army?
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Inquisitorial Stormtroopers" are an outdated lore concept where an Inquisitor might maintain a force under their direct control, rather than appropriating other Imperial forces as necessary.
Maybe as an army per say, but certainly in recent Inquisitor books like 'The Carrion Throne' Inquisition facilities will maintain teams of Stormtroopers that work solely for Inquisitors when they need some muscle.
It would be worth deciding which Ordo of Inquisitor you want to field so that you can look at the appropriate Chamber Militant colour scheme and choose something sympathetic to that.
Honestly I think the appeal of an Inquisition army is that it is something of a grab bag of different Imperial servants each with their own colour scheme and iconography.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 11:23:31
Subject: Re:Inquisition army?
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Old fluff was that the (militarum temptestus) Storm troopers training was devellopped to provide soldiers for the inquisition (according to Commissar Cains book two, caves of ice). The SoB, GK and DW all used to be the inquisitions chamber militant too, basicly the military forces of the inquisition. Stuff has changed around quite a bit since then and the inquisition has been given less attention. generally the Ordo Malleus will deply GK, the Ordo Hereticus will deploy sororitas and the Ordo Xenos will deploy Deathwatch.
Edit: Of course all would deploy militarum temptestus and astra militarum.
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His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 20:09:32
Subject: Inquisition army?
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So could the inquisition have a force of different imperial factions under them? I have an extinct chapter I work with so would make sense to use them... But would they use Ad Mech (who I know are tect not imperial) and sisters of battle?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 20:57:15
Subject: Re:Inquisition army?
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Yea definitely, typically Inquisitors have a network of agents and acolytes but when true military forces are required they may requisition forces from organisations in the Imperium.
Space Marines are a little bit different in that they would have to ask a little more nicely, but still could make a request for their aid.
Saying that, the three main orders have their own 'Chamber Militant' which they typically call upon for military aid;
Ordo Xenos (Alien Hunters) = Deathwatch
Ordo Hereticus (Witch Hunters) = Sisters of Battle
Ordo Malleus (Daemon Hunters) = Grey Knights
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 21:37:36
Subject: Inquisition army?
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On paper Inquisitors have the authority to arrest, command, or deputize pretty much anyone, but in practice landing on Ultramar as one individual and trying to arrest Calgar (to pick an extreme example) or trying to command a Titan Legion to play soccer because you were curious if it was possible is just going to get you shot and buried where nobody will ever find you (and your Inquisitorial authority to make such a command revoked by the rest of the Inquisition retroactively so they don't need to deal with the fallout of you doing dumb things with it).
In practice Inquisitorial forces can be thought of in two ways; there are forces under the long-term command of the Inquisition or with a long-term friendly relationship (Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, the Orders Militant, and the Exorcists chapter are canon examples, but there's plenty of space for you to write others), and there are ad-hoc forces assembled for a specific operation (which may involve almost anyone). Ad-hoc forces tend to be less well-equipped, since they tend to get assembled when there's no time to get something better and since more powerful/important people aren't going to be browbeaten into obedience and the Inquisitor may need to negotiate some kind of exchange for their aid.
The Adeptus Mechanicus is a weirder problem; they're politically independent and run/police themselves (the Prefecture Magisterium is their internal Inquisition-equivalent to root out tech-heresy) so long as they keep supplying the Imperium under the Treaty of Mars.
That said though it may be difficult to justify an Inquisitor conscripting AdMech forces there's no reason an Inquisitor couldn't have some kind of friendly relationship with a Tech-Priest or a Forge World; they're well-positioned to grab archaeotech, xenotech, STC data, etc. that they could barter into some kind of agreement. Some Forge Worlds are more orthodox/independent, some are friendlier, and beyond that an Explorator fleet may be more flexible (and closer to hand) if you're wandering around further from civilization.
There's also the fluff footnote that the Crusader robot (on which the Vorax battle-automata from the 30k list is based) is favoured as a hunter-killer robot by the Inquisition and the Adeptus Arbites, which I take as implying that not all AdMech units are exclusive to the AdMech and you could use their rules for a robot/servitor force directly commanded by an Inquisitor instead of stuff they've borrowed/conscripted directly from the AdMech. (Not all servitors and not all robots are built on Forge Worlds for AdMech use.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/30 21:54:53
Subject: Inquisition army?
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AnomanderRake wrote:On paper Inquisitors have the authority to arrest, command, or deputize pretty much anyone, but in practice landing on Ultramar as one individual and trying to arrest Calgar (to pick an extreme example) or trying to command a Titan Legion to play soccer because you were curious if it was possible is just going to get you shot and buried where nobody will ever find you (and your Inquisitorial authority to make such a command revoked by the rest of the Inquisition retroactively so they don't need to deal with the fallout of you doing dumb things with it).
In practice Inquisitorial forces can be thought of in two ways; there are forces under the long-term command of the Inquisition or with a long-term friendly relationship (Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, the Orders Militant, and the Exorcists chapter are canon examples, but there's plenty of space for you to write others), and there are ad-hoc forces assembled for a specific operation (which may involve almost anyone). Ad-hoc forces tend to be less well-equipped, since they tend to get assembled when there's no time to get something better and since more powerful/important people aren't going to be browbeaten into obedience and the Inquisitor may need to negotiate some kind of exchange for their aid.
The Adeptus Mechanicus is a weirder problem; they're politically independent and run/police themselves (the Prefecture Magisterium is their internal Inquisition-equivalent to root out tech-heresy) so long as they keep supplying the Imperium under the Treaty of Mars.
That said though it may be difficult to justify an Inquisitor conscripting AdMech forces there's no reason an Inquisitor couldn't have some kind of friendly relationship with a Tech-Priest or a Forge World; they're well-positioned to grab archaeotech, xenotech, STC data, etc. that they could barter into some kind of agreement. Some Forge Worlds are more orthodox/independent, some are friendlier, and beyond that an Explorator fleet may be more flexible (and closer to hand) if you're wandering around further from civilization.
There's also the fluff footnote that the Crusader robot (on which the Vorax battle-automata from the 30k list is based) is favoured as a hunter-killer robot by the Inquisition and the Adeptus Arbites, which I take as implying that not all AdMech units are exclusive to the AdMech and you could use their rules for a robot/servitor force directly commanded by an Inquisitor instead of stuff they've borrowed/conscripted directly from the AdMech. (Not all servitors and not all robots are built on Forge Worlds for AdMech use.)
But it would make sense if they contacted an almost extinct chapter (who have no home world and are like basically nobody left) and ask them for their services in return for reinforcements, ect...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/31 03:11:33
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces
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lolman1c wrote:So could the inquisition have a force of different imperial factions under them? I have an extinct chapter I work with so would make sense to use them... But would they use Ad Mech (who I know are tect not imperial) and sisters of battle?
AdMech would not work for an Inquisitor. The AdMech is independent and does not fall under the Inquisition's authority. But the AdMech certainly will work with an Inquisitor, if it serves both their interests. The Sisters of Battle are actually a favourite force of the Ordo Hereticus. They are often requisitioned. Automatically Appended Next Post: lolman1c wrote: AnomanderRake wrote:On paper Inquisitors have the authority to arrest, command, or deputize pretty much anyone, but in practice landing on Ultramar as one individual and trying to arrest Calgar (to pick an extreme example) or trying to command a Titan Legion to play soccer because you were curious if it was possible is just going to get you shot and buried where nobody will ever find you (and your Inquisitorial authority to make such a command revoked by the rest of the Inquisition retroactively so they don't need to deal with the fallout of you doing dumb things with it).
In practice Inquisitorial forces can be thought of in two ways; there are forces under the long-term command of the Inquisition or with a long-term friendly relationship (Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, the Orders Militant, and the Exorcists chapter are canon examples, but there's plenty of space for you to write others), and there are ad-hoc forces assembled for a specific operation (which may involve almost anyone). Ad-hoc forces tend to be less well-equipped, since they tend to get assembled when there's no time to get something better and since more powerful/important people aren't going to be browbeaten into obedience and the Inquisitor may need to negotiate some kind of exchange for their aid.
The Adeptus Mechanicus is a weirder problem; they're politically independent and run/police themselves (the Prefecture Magisterium is their internal Inquisition-equivalent to root out tech-heresy) so long as they keep supplying the Imperium under the Treaty of Mars.
That said though it may be difficult to justify an Inquisitor conscripting AdMech forces there's no reason an Inquisitor couldn't have some kind of friendly relationship with a Tech-Priest or a Forge World; they're well-positioned to grab archaeotech, xenotech, STC data, etc. that they could barter into some kind of agreement. Some Forge Worlds are more orthodox/independent, some are friendlier, and beyond that an Explorator fleet may be more flexible (and closer to hand) if you're wandering around further from civilization.
There's also the fluff footnote that the Crusader robot (on which the Vorax battle-automata from the 30k list is based) is favoured as a hunter-killer robot by the Inquisition and the Adeptus Arbites, which I take as implying that not all AdMech units are exclusive to the AdMech and you could use their rules for a robot/servitor force directly commanded by an Inquisitor instead of stuff they've borrowed/conscripted directly from the AdMech. (Not all servitors and not all robots are built on Forge Worlds for AdMech use.)
But it would make sense if they contacted an almost extinct chapter (who have no home world and are like basically nobody left) and ask them for their services in return for reinforcements, ect...
Yes. Space Marines are a very desirable asset for an Inquisitor who needs some muscle and firepower. But Space Marines are often difficult to requisition, because they are proud and fiercely independent and so most chapters will quite bluntly refuse an Inquisitor's orders if they think they have better things to do. Inquisitors dealing with Space Marine chapters generally need to be very diplomatic in order to get what they want. An almost extinct-chapter on the other hand would not be in a position to refuse, so it might be much more likely to directly accept an Inquisitor's authority and orders. Also, it isn't bound to a homeworld, making the Space Marines free to travel along with the Inquisitor's retinue. In addition, working with the Inquisitor is also beneficial for the Space Marines as it allows them to regain their strength and maybe slowly rebuild while in the Inquisitor's service. It would give them access to resources they might otherwise not be able to obtain. You could certainly build some nice fluff around this relationship.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/31 06:11:18
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Stalwart Veteran Guard Sergeant
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Kroem wrote:Yea definitely, typically Inquisitors have a network of agents and acolytes but when true military forces are required they may requisition forces from organisations in the Imperium.
Space Marines are a little bit different in that they would have to ask a little more nicely, but still could make a request for their aid.
Saying that, the three main orders have their own 'Chamber Militant' which they typically call upon for military aid;
Ordo Xenos (Alien Hunters) = Deathwatch
Ordo Hereticus (Witch Hunters) = Sisters of Battle
Ordo Malleus (Daemon Hunters) = Grey Knights
What about all those minor orders...and if you wanted to use the old 54mm ][ Inquisitor game but with actual 28mm mini's you can still buy and all those bitz left over?
- STS
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Grey Knights 712 points Imperial Stormtroopers 3042 points Lamenters 1787 points Xenomorphs 995 points 1200 points + 1790 points 770 points 369 points of Imperial Guard to bolster the Sisters of Battle
Kain said: "This will surely end in tears for everyone involved. How very 40k." lilahking said "the imperium would rather die than work with itself"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/31 09:49:18
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Nasty Nob
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slade the sniper wrote: Kroem wrote:Yea definitely, typically Inquisitors have a network of agents and acolytes but when true military forces are required they may requisition forces from organisations in the Imperium.
Space Marines are a little bit different in that they would have to ask a little more nicely, but still could make a request for their aid.
Saying that, the three main orders have their own 'Chamber Militant' which they typically call upon for military aid;
Ordo Xenos (Alien Hunters) = Deathwatch
Ordo Hereticus (Witch Hunters) = Sisters of Battle
Ordo Malleus (Daemon Hunters) = Grey Knights
What about all those minor orders...and if you wanted to use the old 54mm ][ Inquisitor game but with actual 28mm mini's you can still buy and all those bitz left over?
- STS
I was being brief, not writing a new Codex: Inquisition!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/01/31 20:10:19
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Iron_Captain wrote: lolman1c wrote:So could the inquisition have a force of different imperial factions under them? I have an extinct chapter I work with so would make sense to use them... But would they use Ad Mech (who I know are tect not imperial) and sisters of battle?
AdMech would not work for an Inquisitor. The AdMech is independent and does not fall under the Inquisition's authority. But the AdMech certainly will work with an Inquisitor, if it serves both their interests. The Sisters of Battle are actually a favourite force of the Ordo Hereticus. They are often requisitioned.
Automatically Appended Next Post:
lolman1c wrote: AnomanderRake wrote:On paper Inquisitors have the authority to arrest, command, or deputize pretty much anyone, but in practice landing on Ultramar as one individual and trying to arrest Calgar (to pick an extreme example) or trying to command a Titan Legion to play soccer because you were curious if it was possible is just going to get you shot and buried where nobody will ever find you (and your Inquisitorial authority to make such a command revoked by the rest of the Inquisition retroactively so they don't need to deal with the fallout of you doing dumb things with it).
In practice Inquisitorial forces can be thought of in two ways; there are forces under the long-term command of the Inquisition or with a long-term friendly relationship (Inquisitorial Stormtroopers, the Orders Militant, and the Exorcists chapter are canon examples, but there's plenty of space for you to write others), and there are ad-hoc forces assembled for a specific operation (which may involve almost anyone). Ad-hoc forces tend to be less well-equipped, since they tend to get assembled when there's no time to get something better and since more powerful/important people aren't going to be browbeaten into obedience and the Inquisitor may need to negotiate some kind of exchange for their aid.
The Adeptus Mechanicus is a weirder problem; they're politically independent and run/police themselves (the Prefecture Magisterium is their internal Inquisition-equivalent to root out tech-heresy) so long as they keep supplying the Imperium under the Treaty of Mars.
That said though it may be difficult to justify an Inquisitor conscripting AdMech forces there's no reason an Inquisitor couldn't have some kind of friendly relationship with a Tech-Priest or a Forge World; they're well-positioned to grab archaeotech, xenotech, STC data, etc. that they could barter into some kind of agreement. Some Forge Worlds are more orthodox/independent, some are friendlier, and beyond that an Explorator fleet may be more flexible (and closer to hand) if you're wandering around further from civilization.
There's also the fluff footnote that the Crusader robot (on which the Vorax battle-automata from the 30k list is based) is favoured as a hunter-killer robot by the Inquisition and the Adeptus Arbites, which I take as implying that not all AdMech units are exclusive to the AdMech and you could use their rules for a robot/servitor force directly commanded by an Inquisitor instead of stuff they've borrowed/conscripted directly from the AdMech. (Not all servitors and not all robots are built on Forge Worlds for AdMech use.)
But it would make sense if they contacted an almost extinct chapter (who have no home world and are like basically nobody left) and ask them for their services in return for reinforcements, ect...
Yes. Space Marines are a very desirable asset for an Inquisitor who needs some muscle and firepower. But Space Marines are often difficult to requisition, because they are proud and fiercely independent and so most chapters will quite bluntly refuse an Inquisitor's orders if they think they have better things to do. Inquisitors dealing with Space Marine chapters generally need to be very diplomatic in order to get what they want. An almost extinct-chapter on the other hand would not be in a position to refuse, so it might be much more likely to directly accept an Inquisitor's authority and orders. Also, it isn't bound to a homeworld, making the Space Marines free to travel along with the Inquisitor's retinue. In addition, working with the Inquisitor is also beneficial for the Space Marines as it allows them to regain their strength and maybe slowly rebuild while in the Inquisitor's service. It would give them access to resources they might otherwise not be able to obtain. You could certainly build some nice fluff around this relationship.
I was thinking something like this for my chapter. I don't think they would want to work for the Inq but they certainly are not in a place to say other wise. I thought this could build a cool relationship in the lore I write (no idea why I write lore seen as I have no expectations to ever show anybody... I just think it helps me and is a part of the hobby. XD ). Also I just want to buy the Inquisitor with Inferno Pistol & Power Sword to have him on my shelf. XD Will look awesome when painted! And if Sisters ever get some decent plastic models i might buy a few hundred points of them.
Also does anyone have any good wiki links? I've read almost no lore behind the inquisition outside of the standard stuff every 40k player should know. I know my chapter hates tyranids (having their home world destroyed by them!!!) so i was thinking they could hunt genestealer cult members.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/01 22:49:13
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Well, Inquisitorial Stormtroopers are also the guys stationed on the Black Ships transporting psykers to be sacrificed to The Emperor. So there is nothing wrong with running an army of Scions with your Inquisitor.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/01 23:05:11
Subject: Inquisition army?
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
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Kroem wrote:slade the sniper wrote: Kroem wrote:Yea definitely, typically Inquisitors have a network of agents and acolytes but when true military forces are required they may requisition forces from organisations in the Imperium.
Space Marines are a little bit different in that they would have to ask a little more nicely, but still could make a request for their aid.
Saying that, the three main orders have their own 'Chamber Militant' which they typically call upon for military aid;
Ordo Xenos (Alien Hunters) = Deathwatch
Ordo Hereticus (Witch Hunters) = Sisters of Battle
Ordo Malleus (Daemon Hunters) = Grey Knights
What about all those minor orders...and if you wanted to use the old 54mm ][ Inquisitor game but with actual 28mm mini's you can still buy and all those bitz left over?
- STS
I was being brief, not writing a new Codex: Inquisition! 
Plus fluff wise all the minor orders are bound to draw somewhat under the umbrella of the big main trio. There gonna come somewhat under the remit of one of them with some degree of overlap.
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I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2018/02/02 04:56:25
Subject: Inquisition army?
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jhe90 wrote: Kroem wrote:slade the sniper wrote: Kroem wrote:Yea definitely, typically Inquisitors have a network of agents and acolytes but when true military forces are required they may requisition forces from organisations in the Imperium.
Space Marines are a little bit different in that they would have to ask a little more nicely, but still could make a request for their aid.
Saying that, the three main orders have their own 'Chamber Militant' which they typically call upon for military aid;
Ordo Xenos (Alien Hunters) = Deathwatch
Ordo Hereticus (Witch Hunters) = Sisters of Battle
Ordo Malleus (Daemon Hunters) = Grey Knights
What about all those minor orders...and if you wanted to use the old 54mm ][ Inquisitor game but with actual 28mm mini's you can still buy and all those bitz left over?
- STS
I was being brief, not writing a new Codex: Inquisition! 
Plus fluff wise all the minor orders are bound to draw somewhat under the umbrella of the big main trio. There gonna come somewhat under the remit of one of them with some degree of overlap.
also the differant ordos aren't as iron clad as we think. they're loose fraternatieis of inqusitors with like minds more then hard core teams. an inqusitor whose technicly ordos xenos could get grey knight help if he was dealing with the demonic if he happened to know how to contact them
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