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Definitely going to need more details about gameplay, but the minis sure do look nice.

Thorton's ludography: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgamedesigner/944/jake-thornton

And game development blog: https://quirkworthy.com/about/

Hopefully, Mythic won't make a boring gameplay video...!

I found this blog (in French) with some more details of gameplay and photos of components:

https://royaumesoublies.blogspot.com/2018/05/solomon-kane-mythic-games.html?spref=fb&m=1

I am really excited for this.

Overview of game mechanics. Thanks to David on BGG for the link! : https://www.facebook.com/notes/solomon-kane/solomon-kane-turns-up-on-tric-trac-and-kickstarter/1912087752146857/

"This is why you will play the divine entities this religious zealot believes in deeply. The four Cardinal Virtues: immortal, invisible forces with very different essences. Courage can aid Solomon Kane during his fighting and movement. Justice will help our hero during discussions. Temperance will help him discover and explore. Finally, Prudence will aid him in controlling the surrounding danger level. Each player personifies one of these four Virtues in order to help Solomon Kane on his quest to eradicate evil and darkness from the world. ... Every adventure is divided into ‘Chapters’, each of which has its own conditions for determining where the story will head to next. Based on how well you do in the Chapter, you can find the next Chapter begins easier or more difficult for you. Sometimes you may skip Chapters, or head down one path instead of another, depending on your actions in the Chapter. ... The game consists of both ‘Story’ Chapters and ‘Scene’ Chapters. The former are not played using the miniatures and the game board, but instead the story is read out, and each player has one turn to influence where the Chapter will go. In Scene Chapters, you will set up a modular board comprised of one or more tiles, placing them and the miniatures according the Chapter’s instructions. You will have a limited number of turns in which to complete as many of the Chapter’s conditions as possible. ...

We chose 35mm as the scale because it allows us to display a high level of detail, especially in miniatures which are digitally sculpted. ... The core box will offer many exceptional miniatures, but the centerpieces are the four Virtues. These stand 90mm tall. ...

The ‘Puritan Pledge’ will be the basic pledge. It will be cost $110 and come with a core box containing three Adventures consisting of 6 Acts overall, comprising around fifty Chapters! There is a lot of gameplay in the core box even before you look to play any of the Acts again. ...

We will offer an Early Bird during the first 24 hours of the campaign. This will be an exclusive single Act adventure, and every backer who takes the Puritan Pledge during the first 24 hours of the campaign will get it. This Adventure is an adaptation of the short story ‘The Right Hand of Doom’ by Robert E. Howard. It will use the core box miniatures plus an exclusive miniature of ‘the Hand’. This promotional add-on will have its own Chapter cards and Discovery cards, specific to this adventure. ... Take careful note of the launch time: Tuesday, June 12th at 8pm BST/3pm EDT. If you take a Puritan Pledge before Wednesday, June 13th 8pm BST/3pm EDT you will receive this Adventure for free, in addition to the core box and every unlocked stretch goal. "

35mm? Well, I guess he can fight nazi's...

And what a hand-some miniature!

Creeping giant hand is good.

There's something deliciously Flanders-esque about a game where you play as personifications of temperance, prudence, courage and justice...

Kickstarter is up and funded. 22 and a half more hours to pledge to get the free hand expansion -

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162110258/solomon-kane

A few stretch goals already down and about to get the one that allows solo play.

I know that more will be added etc. but the initial offering looks pretty anemic. It doesn't seem to be funding as quickly as I expected, and the light value out of the gate may be to blame.

My guesses are...
* Solomon Kane isn't as popular an IP as some others we've seen (eg. Batman)
* We've had a fair number of miniature-based KS recently (including AD1666).
* 32 mm makes the miniatures incompatible with 28mm figures.
* Mythic Games hasn't delivered Joan of Arc, yet.
* While most backers are from the US and are on BGG, Mythic, not surprisingly, does more support in France and Tric Trac.

Preemptive Edit: Yes, that's why I mentioned the last two last.

I think they would have been better off including more in the box from the get go, and letting us skip over the initial "this was always going to be in the box" phase of stretch goals.

Well I have an EB pledge but don't know if ill be keeping it, the game play just really isn't exiting me all that much on this one.

Surprised they launched in such close proximity to the Mythic Battles reprint, that must be taking away a lot of potential buyers funds.

My issue is I don't know what else I'd use the minis for. With all these mini heavy boardgames I need another use to justify them as the base game rarely gets played. So that usually means with my group RPG stuff. I guess WFRPG if I ever do that system but I'm not sold on the uniqueness or volume delivered to justify the money.

Also, for those quoting 32mm, it's actually 35mm. So same as guild ball and WWX.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
My issue is I don't know what else I'd use the minis for. With all these mini heavy boardgames I need another use to justify them as the base game rarely gets played. So that usually means with my group RPG stuff. I guess WFRPG if I ever do that system but I'm not sold on the uniqueness or volume delivered to justify the money.

Also, for those quoting 32mm, it's actually 35mm. So same as guild ball and WWX.

Well, I think they are 35mm to the top of the head, which may be the 32mm to the eyes scale of other lines. At least that is my understanding.

This is the same scale as Hellboy, I think.

So you can send Solomon Kane against some frogmen and nazis.

And Hellboy against witch hunters and villagers?

But yeah, It's not nice to change the scale so that these can't be used with other minis lines. Otherwise this would be a great source for medieval(ish) civilians for fantasy games?

Anyway, I love the 5 virtues models, so will be taking part in this KS. I'm even looking forward on playing the game!

 Col Hammer wrote:
This is the same scale as Hellboy, I think.

So you can send Solomon Kane against some frogmen and nazis.

And Hellboy against witch hunters and villagers?

But yeah, It's not nice to change the scale so that these can't be used with other minis lines. Otherwise this would be a great source for medieval(ish) civilians for fantasy games?

Anyway, I love the 5 virtues models, so will be taking part in this KS. I'm even looking forward on playing the game!

I'm fairly certain that these are 35mm to the top of the head, whereas the Hellboy Nazis are 40mm to the top of the head. I'll ask in the comments just to be sure.

Edit: I asked and they confirmed that the average male is 35mm to the top of the head, substantially smaller than a Hellboy Nazi.

That would put them in scale with Mythic Battles and other Monolith stuff.

First add-on revealed: Heart of Africa

Damn... I want the Red Horror and only the Red Horror.

Thats a lot of gaming material and miniatures, for such a small game. It looks pretty bloated for me. Complicated mechanics and a pile of plastic usually speak against a quick round of playing. And in the time I set this up, I can also set up a real TT or a couple of rounds Halli Galli.

Definitely a pass for me.

Just one good point for 35mm. Its more friendly for painters. More airbrushing and much easy to work out deatails.

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Thats a lot of gaming material and miniatures, for such a small game. It looks pretty bloated for me. Complicated mechanics and a pile of plastic usually speak against a quick round of playing. And in the time I set this up, I can also set up a real TT or a couple of rounds Halli Galli.

Each story arc uses only fraction of the models, maps and cards. So you don't have everything on the table in the same time. If you keep the minis and cards well organized, I don't see the setup taking a long time at all. The rules don't seem to be that much complicated either. All of the instructions (what you need to achieve in the particular game) seems to be on the cards (which you resolve one at time before moving to the next card depending the outcome of the last card).
The engine seems to be about efficient resource management and co-operation between the players.

Also, there is a save feature, so you don't have to finish the story arc in one sitting. If the save feature is anything like in 7th continent, the setup time to continue the game is miniscule.

Don't know what a real TT or Halli Galli is, so cannot compare the set up times for those.
If real TT means tabletop miniatures game, those games have pretty long set up times. You propably get lots of Halli Galli (whatever that is) in instead.

 Col Hammer wrote:

 Papa-Schlumpf wrote:
Thats a lot of gaming material and miniatures, for such a small game. It looks pretty bloated for me. Complicated mechanics and a pile of plastic usually speak against a quick round of playing. And in the time I set this up, I can also set up a real TT or a couple of rounds Halli Galli.

Each story arc uses only fraction of the models, maps and cards. So you don't have everything on the table in the same time. If you keep the minis and cards well organized, I don't see the setup taking a long time at all. The rules don't seem to be that much complicated either. All of the instructions (what you need to achieve in the particular game) seems to be on the cards (which you resolve one at time before moving to the next card depending the outcome of the last card).
The engine seems to be about efficient resource management and co-operation between the players.

Also, there is a save feature, so you don't have to finish the story arc in one sitting. If the save feature is anything like in 7th continent, the setup time to continue the game is miniscule.

Don't know what a real TT or Halli Galli is, so cannot compare the set up times for those.
If real TT means tabletop miniatures game, those games have pretty long set up times. You propably get lots of Halli Galli (whatever that is) in instead.

Halli Galli is a very fast-playing card game (and with a bell!). It has virtually no set-up time, so you can play lots of Halli Galli in the time it takes you to set up any larger game. It is popular in the Netherlands and Germany, but I have never seen it anywhere else so I am not surprised you haven't heard of it.

@Col Hammer: The preparations you describe to set it up sound like the same for setting up a 40k round. And you described the engine very good, but the overlaying game could achieve this with less material. Hence, there will always be a learning phase for new players, which could be not so fun. As for the plastic for me there is the question: is it worth the additional price and storage space? Or could cardboard or tokens have done the job?

This is Halli Galli, also called Tutti Frutti (I found a English version and thought that it is more international, but @Iron_Captain already cleared that)


It has superior setup time, no rulebook is needed, is cheaper, additional players are added easy, fast rounds, travel friendly and the most important thing: it makes fun.
For me this game is the benchmark for other games. Of course tabletop is another niche that satisfies other demands, like strategic depth, balancing, lore,....
But also here it is so, that when the work for a game is much bigger than the fun, I´m out. And Kane looks like too much work for the payoff. Maybe I have to see more actual game footage, to change my mind.

Of interest to those who are interested in the psychology and economics of KS:
The campaign is currently losing backers:


I think Mythic wasted the initial momentum on painfully fake stretch goals, and are now stuck with a core game that is not competitive with retail games at a similar price point despite raising $600k+.

I got a little traction in the comments yesterday with my concerns, but who knows if Mythic is listening.

Indeed. Makes me wonder how much of Mythic Battles success was influenced by how Monolith wanted to run a campaign as Mythic really pulled a meh with this.

If they allowed for just add ons I'd consider Heart of Africa but I don't need or care for the core game.

 Monkeysloth wrote:
Indeed. Makes me wonder how much of Mythic Battles success was influenced by how Monolith wanted to run a campaign as Mythic really pulled a meh with this.

If they allowed for just add ons I'd consider Heart of Africa but I don't need or care for the core game.

I'm an enormous Kane fan, and even I am pretty "meh" about the current core box.
It just doesn't have enough content to justify the price+wait. I can get more miniatures plus reportedly fantastic gameplay out of Bloodrage for less than half the price...

Bloodrage is great, I highly recommended it.

You can usually get some really good deals via boardgame geek from people selling the base game and extras for the price of it new at amazon.

I think the issue at hand is all the components are a huge cost sink and lots of people, like me, look at these KS exclusive games as ways just to get cheap minis.

With Monolith and CMoN you get a board or two and a few cards but nothing you don't feel you wasted money on if you just bought for minis. With this game I feel like half the price is in the board game components I'll never use -- which is perfectly fine as it is a boardgame. But Mythic being Mythic wants to sell it on it's minis and there's just not enough there to justify it.

Mythic decided to boost the core pledge with a 20 dollar add-on that is instead added free of charge. So the core pledge has now more value.

Well they're clearly worried about the Trajectory so are trying the throw in more stuff option beloved of Mantic

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1162110258/solomon-kane/posts/2214860?ref=backer_project_update



It's nice if you plan on playing the game, but i'm uncertain if it will be enough to really pull in the 'just the minis' crew as it's 'only' 7 more and the expansion is heavy on the gameplay components that they aren't interested in

You know, the absurd number of cards required for this game is starting to set in...